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m0tivati0n_2.o User ID: 68480461 United States 04/28/2015 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! that suck dude, hopefully they can regain control of it. Im sure those supplies are much needed. The first step is to establish that something is possible; then probability will occur. It's easy to stand in the crowd but it takes courage to stand alone Do i look really like a guy with a plan? you know what i am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if i ever caught it. You know, I.. I just do things. The mobs have plans. The cops have plans. They're Schemers. Schemer's trying to control their little worlds. I'm Not a Schemer. |
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Carnac The Magnificent User ID: 17554888 United States 04/28/2015 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! Rogue squirrel. Running the wrong direction and throwing off the gyro. They need to vet these squirrels better. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 04/28/2015 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! that suck dude, hopefully they can regain control of it. Quoting: m0tivati0n_2.o Im sure those supplies are much needed. They are very much needed, especially since the shortfall caused by the explosion of the Antares rocket in October. That rocket was also using refurbished Soviet rocket engines. Yes, Soviet, not even Russian. They're descendents of the failed N-1 moon rocket. They look good on paper for efficiency, but the N-1 never had a single successful launch, which is why the Soviets lost the moon race and gave up. The surplus engines were left in a warehouse until Aerojet bought them following the fall of the Soviet Union. They were refurbished and used as relatively cheap engines for the Antares rocket. Well, we can see how well that plan worked... Last Edited by Astromut on 04/28/2015 11:49 AM |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 04/28/2015 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! So i guess its lost? Quoting: Dr. Acula What happens then? Reentry? Is it gonna give someone a really bad day? As Brief would say... "Squish" Uncontrolled re-entry at some point if they don't regain control. Space-track doesn't even have the orbital elements up yet for this launch, so I don't know what its altitude currently is or how long it will likely remain in orbit if control is never regained. I'd love to track it with my scope if I could, but unfortunately my scope's motherboard has experienced a failure due to a short which has taken out my ability to control it for satellite tracking. I'm working on getting repair parts but I wouldn't be surprised if this thing burns up before I'm back up and running. |
Always Looking User ID: 56915284 United States 04/28/2015 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! So i guess its lost? Quoting: Dr. Acula What happens then? Reentry? Is it gonna give someone a really bad day? As Brief would say... "Squish" Uncontrolled re-entry at some point if they don't regain control. Space-track doesn't even have the orbital elements up yet for this launch, so I don't know what its altitude currently is or how long it will likely remain in orbit if control is never regained. I'd love to track it with my scope if I could, but unfortunately my scope's motherboard has experienced a failure due to a short which has taken out my ability to control it for satellite tracking. I'm working on getting repair parts but I wouldn't be surprised if this thing burns up before I'm back up and running. Could this out of control rocket smash into any satellites? Truth and Facts - The two words liberals hate most! Suffering is burning emotional energy on the uncontrollable! The architect of the universe did not build a stairway to nowhere! |
m0tivati0n_2.o User ID: 68480461 United States 04/28/2015 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! that suck dude, hopefully they can regain control of it. Quoting: m0tivati0n_2.o Im sure those supplies are much needed. They are very much needed, especially since the shortfall caused by the explosion of the Antares rocket in October. That rocket was also using refurbished Soviet rocket engines. Yes, Soviet, not even Russian. They're descendents of the failed N-1 moon rocket. They look good on paper for efficiency, but the N-1 never had a single successful launch, which is why the Soviets lost the moon race and gave up. The surplus engines were left in a warehouse until Aerojet bought them following the fall of the Soviet Union. They were refurbished and used as relatively cheap engines for the Antares rocket. Well, we can see how well that plan worked... Did nasa award SpaceX with a few resupply missions for 2015? Why aren't they using them, instead of these bunk soviet rockets? The first step is to establish that something is possible; then probability will occur. It's easy to stand in the crowd but it takes courage to stand alone Do i look really like a guy with a plan? you know what i am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if i ever caught it. You know, I.. I just do things. The mobs have plans. The cops have plans. They're Schemers. Schemer's trying to control their little worlds. I'm Not a Schemer. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 5077936 United States 04/28/2015 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! that suck dude, hopefully they can regain control of it. Quoting: m0tivati0n_2.o Im sure those supplies are much needed. They are very much needed, especially since the shortfall caused by the explosion of the Antares rocket in October. That rocket was also using refurbished Soviet rocket engines. Yes, Soviet, not even Russian. They're descendents of the failed N-1 moon rocket. They look good on paper for efficiency, but the N-1 never had a single successful launch, which is why the Soviets lost the moon race and gave up. The surplus engines were left in a warehouse until Aerojet bought them following the fall of the Soviet Union. They were refurbished and used as relatively cheap engines for the Antares rocket. Well, we can see how well that plan worked... Did nasa award SpaceX with a few resupply missions for 2015? Why aren't they using them, instead of these bunk soviet rockets? We are using them. But we're also using progress. We need multiple supply lines. ESA is no longer providing ATV for supply. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 5077936 United States 04/28/2015 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! So i guess its lost? Quoting: Dr. Acula What happens then? Reentry? Is it gonna give someone a really bad day? As Brief would say... "Squish" Uncontrolled re-entry at some point if they don't regain control. Space-track doesn't even have the orbital elements up yet for this launch, so I don't know what its altitude currently is or how long it will likely remain in orbit if control is never regained. I'd love to track it with my scope if I could, but unfortunately my scope's motherboard has experienced a failure due to a short which has taken out my ability to control it for satellite tracking. I'm working on getting repair parts but I wouldn't be surprised if this thing burns up before I'm back up and running. Could this out of control rocket smash into any satellites? Not likely, it's in a very low earth orbit. Most satellites are above it. |
~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~ User ID: 65969492 United States 04/28/2015 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! that suck dude, hopefully they can regain control of it. Quoting: m0tivati0n_2.o Im sure those supplies are much needed. They are very much needed, especially since the shortfall caused by the explosion of the Antares rocket in October. That rocket was also using refurbished Soviet rocket engines. Yes, Soviet, not even Russian. They're descendents of the failed N-1 moon rocket. They look good on paper for efficiency, but the N-1 never had a single successful launch, which is why the Soviets lost the moon race and gave up. The surplus engines were left in a warehouse until Aerojet bought them following the fall of the Soviet Union. They were refurbished and used as relatively cheap engines for the Antares rocket. Well, we can see how well that plan worked... Did nasa award SpaceX with a few resupply missions for 2015? Why aren't they using them, instead of these bunk soviet rockets? We are using them. But we're also using progress. We need multiple supply lines. ESA is no longer providing ATV for supply. Just curious, you say WE when responding to the poster...Do you work for NASA or SpaceX? Thanx |
darth User ID: 65107755 United States 04/28/2015 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! I remember that a similar supply rocket had the guidance system fail while approaching the Mir space station. That was well before there was an ISS. In that case, the Progress impacted the space station and did some damage. There are lots of details in the book, Dragonfly, about the Mir space station. |
Billxam User ID: 69068195 United States 04/28/2015 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! Didn't see the reply above this one. Great minds, etc.. Reminds me of when I interviewed Mike Foale just before he went up to the MIR in the 90's. I asked him if was worried and of course he gave the company answer. Two weeks after he got up there a resupply ran INTO the station. Then it caught fire. Last Edited by Billxam, MAGA+, ABATE, AWHA on 04/28/2015 12:34 PM Proud to be UnV'd There is one constant in life: If you build something worth having, someone will try to take it or destroy it. Proud member of A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments, Americans Who Hate Aging, proud supporter of attractive women. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 04/28/2015 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! ... Quoting: Dr. Astro They are very much needed, especially since the shortfall caused by the explosion of the Antares rocket in October. That rocket was also using refurbished Soviet rocket engines. Yes, Soviet, not even Russian. They're descendents of the failed N-1 moon rocket. They look good on paper for efficiency, but the N-1 never had a single successful launch, which is why the Soviets lost the moon race and gave up. The surplus engines were left in a warehouse until Aerojet bought them following the fall of the Soviet Union. They were refurbished and used as relatively cheap engines for the Antares rocket. Well, we can see how well that plan worked... Did nasa award SpaceX with a few resupply missions for 2015? Why aren't they using them, instead of these bunk soviet rockets? We are using them. But we're also using progress. We need multiple supply lines. ESA is no longer providing ATV for supply. Just curious, you say WE when responding to the poster...Do you work for NASA or SpaceX? Thanx No lol, I mean "we" as a nation. |
~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~ User ID: 65969492 United States 04/28/2015 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! ... Quoting: m0tivati0n_2.o Did nasa award SpaceX with a few resupply missions for 2015? Why aren't they using them, instead of these bunk soviet rockets? We are using them. But we're also using progress. We need multiple supply lines. ESA is no longer providing ATV for supply. Just curious, you say WE when responding to the poster...Do you work for NASA or SpaceX? Thanx No lol, I mean "we" as a nation. Ok, I know you are always moving forward, so I thought I would double check.lol Last Edited by A Mery Can on 04/28/2015 12:39 PM |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 04/28/2015 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! Reminds me of when I interviewed Mike Foale just before he went up to the MIR in the 90's. I asked him if was worried and of course he gave the company answer. Two weeks after he got up there a resupply ran INTO the station. Then it caught fire. Quoting: Billxam They were very lucky to survive that incident. Foale's account is incredible. "If, however, the axis was oriented so that the solar arrays can't ever pick up the Sun, then the station would be lost: a lot of energy would be required to brake out of the stable spin and energy was precisely what Mir didn't have. Mir would be locked into the bad spin forever and, as Michael says, "that would be it, we would have to abandon the station." So which of Mir's principal axes were stable? Unfortunately, Michael and his colleagues did not know. Neither did ground control in Moscow, as it turned out later. Using a cracked and broken model of the Mir, and supplementing it with torches taped to its ends, Michael eventually ascertained that their best bet lay with the y-axis. The Soyuz's thrusters, because of their position, were unable to induce a rotation about the x-axis, and rotation about the z-axis would not have allowed the functioning solar arrays to pick up the Sun. "The best thing we could do was to rotate about the y-axis and hope that it was stable."" [link to plus.maths.org (secure)] |
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Dr_Doom User ID: 59172351 United Kingdom 04/28/2015 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! that suck dude, hopefully they can regain control of it. Quoting: m0tivati0n_2.o Im sure those supplies are much needed. They are very much needed, especially since the shortfall caused by the explosion of the Antares rocket in October. That rocket was also using refurbished Soviet rocket engines. Yes, Soviet, not even Russian. They're descendents of the failed N-1 moon rocket. They look good on paper for efficiency, but the N-1 never had a single successful launch, which is why the Soviets lost the moon race and gave up. The surplus engines were left in a warehouse until Aerojet bought them following the fall of the Soviet Union. They were refurbished and used as relatively cheap engines for the Antares rocket. Well, we can see how well that plan worked... Spacex to the rescue lol :drdoomison: :UKIPDAY: Welcome to TRUMPLIKE PRODUCTIONS. |
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pmb1 User ID: 49720161 United States 04/28/2015 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russian Progress Supply Ship Spinning Out of Control *Realtime Simulation of the Spacecraft and its Orbit! This is not what you want to see your spacecraft doing right after launch: Quoting: Dr. Astro Fortunately this is an unmanned spacecraft and it was nowhere near ISS at the time control was lost, but they have lost communication with the vehicle and if they cannot restore it then the supplies will be lost. ISS currently has about 4 months worth of supplies, not counting additional Russian or Japanese resupply missions. [link to spaceflightnow.com] I could have sworn that said right after lunch not launch. I was thinking someone must be throwing up all over the place. I just hope the folks on the ISS didn't lose months worth of meals on that. Last Edited by pmb1 on 04/28/2015 01:35 PM |