Your Kids, School, and Standardized Testing

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It's how they recruit for the CIA, think tanks and other institutions.

That paired with evaluations of each kid's psychological profile and they know who the sociopaths and psychopaths are so they can better recruit them.

Me on the other hand, I was honor material, gifted & talented, but never played the game. It use to frustrate the crap out of them to no end, never knowing how to utilize me.

Students, like teachers, feel an inordinate amount of pressure to be successful on state standardized tests. Students who struggle feel frustration as they are faced with a test beyond their current skill set, while higher-achieving students feel resentment at what they perceive to be the slow pace of learning as teachers prepare students through repetitive test practice.
Overall, these tests do not measure some of the traits that are most important in education. Innovation, creativity and love of learning are arguably the most important traits for students to have in today's world. However, standardized tests measure none of those traits. Subjecting students to incessant drills and practice under the guise of test preparation does them few favors in the long run.

[link to everydaylife.globalpost.com]

Education is the number one problem in our society.

It all starts with education.

Helluvah problem to fix.

Thank you for posting!

Some individuals such as yourself, are immune to the effects to standardized testing.

But the average kid, I think suffers from the whole thing.

Yes Madigan I agree completely, 'it all starts with education'.

And thanks for posting :)

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Education is the number one solution to all of our problems in society.

It all starts with education.

Helluvah fun challenge to tackle.

(Common Bore is about as far away from the solution as you can get)

It all stems from the No Child Left Behind Act. (I miss GW), a well intentioned idea with unintended consequences and the Obama admin made it worse by attaching federal funding to schools that do "poorly" on these bullshit standardized tests.

Don't get me started.

Yes that is exactly right. Went way beyond the original intended effect.

Thanks for commenting.

I could write pages and pages about this topic.

Well come on and help me then.

I will come back and rant tomorrow after I drop the kids off at their commie public school... Lol

please teach your children the difference of scientific theory and normal everyday use of theory. teach them scientific theories are the highest it gets in science, its what they strive for. teach them they do not become laws or fact, they are all separate things.

Last Edited by Kakarot_ on 05/05/2015 02:37 AM

Alright I'll keep an eye out for you!

Real men being fathers. Schools don't get by us!

Passing a test will be no problem if the student has grasped the subject.

A test is a good way to gauge whether a student has understood the subject matter.

I teach at the college level (well recently lost my job), and the kids there have been getting worse every year. Even in the honors courses, they have no critical thinking skills. The only intelligence knowledge they have is what was drilled into them previously.

I teach the kids who will grow up to be doctors and nurses. If you think Obamacare is bad for the medical industry, just wait 10 years.... The education in this country will kill many, many people in the years to come.

Last Edited by Zedakah on 05/04/2015 11:16 PM

The current strategy for education today forces people into a box - a single channel - and it degrades the ability to 'critically' think about things.


Thank you so much for your post and I hope you get a great new job soon!

That is bullshit, when they spend a so much time teaching them the test. They do indeed teach the test.

Well now, if more people had your attitude we could
Really accomplish greatness.

Good on ya.

Then they come into a university with that mindset, and they fail...hard. Fall semester, 33% fail my courses (and all other science courses) every single fall. I give them sample problems, go over how to take a real test and study for a real test, and they still fail. 50% of those survivors transfer to business or "nutrition," because science is "too hard."

Spring semester is a breeze though.

Last Edited by Zedakah on 05/04/2015 11:32 PM

REALLY, us teachers could have told you that way before NCLB got started. Did you list? No, you are all such typical sheep, Bahh.... Go along with whatever greedy CEO, Politician, or religious person tells you. We had good schools and they were actually getting better before NCLB and the big lie about public schools. Now you finally see it was more the inner, city, impoverished youth that needed more support. Not the whole damn system. But don't believe a teacher. After all you can't trust a college educated, many teachers with master degrees to be professionals in their field. By the way, ability grouping old term (tracking) in small groups along with direct teach works well. We urgently need more teachers, better trained teacher and smaller classes now. Our kids have a truck load of information to learn, more than ever before.

Very positive post - 'solution'.

Just to say, I have always had the utmost respect for my kids' teachers. I understand exactly what you're saying.

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From:

[link to jukuyobiko.blogspot.jp]



If you were the secretary of state for education and interested in the high performance of Asian countries in

the latest PISA study (Programme for International Student Assessment), you would read official reports, have some briefings by professors of education, or attend some conferences held by the governments of those countries. And the result is that you would be doomed to miss the point, because most young Asians put their passion and energy not in school, but in shadow education (supplementary education or private tutoring after school).
The Asian Development Bank in 2012 reported stunning facts:

*In China, the 2004 Urban Household Education and Employment Survey of 4,772 households indicated that 73.8% of primary students were receiving supplementary lessons, including in non-academic subjects. Proportions in lower and upper secondary were 65.6% and 53.5%…

*In Hong Kong, a 2009 telephone survey of 521 students found that 72.5% of upper primary students had received tutoring; and a survey of 898 secondary students found that 72.5% in lower secondary had received tutoring, while proportions in middle and senior secondary were 81.9% and 85.5%, respectively.

*In South Korea, in 2008, 87.9% of elementary school pupils were estimated to be receiving tutoring. In middle school the proportion was 72.5%; and in general high school it was 60.5%.

*In Singapore, a 2008 newspaper report stated that 97% of students polled at the primary, middle, and senior secondary levels were receiving tutoring.

Hope This Helps!






Last Edited by troitcity - In Memoriam on 05/04/2015 11:43 PM

We have a saying in education. The curriculum is a mile wide and 1" deep.

The original state standards were made broad to show what was appropriate for the grade level and to allow for teacher to teach what was locally appropriate and valued for the area. Such as if children lived on the dairy farm and did mill work or sewing on the side, their curriculum would offer some skills that went along with what they did in their community.

Standards also allowed for flexibility, so they could have skills to go off to college if that is what they wanted. Same for the city kids who got more variety of language classes and map skills to navigate their cities and write more professional type ads for business. Uniforms would be more appropriate for city kids who parents worked in offices and quick assessment need to be made in crowds , of which groups of kids belonged where. In the country, you have one or several school, and no need to worry about that nonsense.

Testing however , does not lead to mastery of skills over all. It leads to learning good test taking/ guessing practices only. We need citizens that can do more then guess. We need mastery of skills in a variety of areas that serve the local community.

so youre a common core fan or no?

With all the things we have pioneered in america, many decades ago, you have to ask, why change it? Answer... "equality" even though there arent two equal people in the world.
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getting a satellite into space, building airplanes, medical devices.

But we all arent equal yet, instead of helping one group, lets just tear down the other group.

See direct teach works better than mass instruction. However, the Koreans are a little overly concerned and have less creativity because of it. Psy one of their big pop favorite barely graduated HS and dropped out of college. Bill gates only completed one year of college, and all the big tech CEO's were all college drop outs. It was a matter of timing and creativity. All the big fast food restaurant were also started by high school drop outs. So really you only need to know so much in your field of interest to be successful in what you want to achieve.

Yes it's true - I lived in that part of the world for many years - and everyone's kids were in 'tuition' after school. They had no friends, no social life, no sports teams. They were so exhausted every night, falling asleep in their dinner plate. I felt so bad for them.

This is not the answer.

The only leverage we have is to encourage the creativity in our kids and not send them down this road.

And I thank you for that thought provoking post.