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The Challenge of Recreating Earth

 
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The Challenge of Recreating Earth
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Still, some intrepid humans have striven to do just that. The most famous attempt is Biosphere 2, a 3.14 acre Earth-system research complex located just outside of Tucson, Arizona. Constructed in the early 1990s as a materially closed ecological system that could simulate future space habitats, this Earth-in-a-bottle includes replica biomes from across the planet, including a rainforest, a savannah, a fog desert, an ocean, and a mangrove swamp. The original design also included an agricultural system and a human habitat. Heated and powered by the sun’s radiation, with water recycled through internal plumbing, Biosphere 2 remains to this day an outstanding engineering feat and one of the most ambitious ecological experiments ever conceived.

To determine whether human life can be sustained in a closed habitat, two manned missions were carried out inside the complex in the early 90s. Both were a spectacular fiasco.

“Because there wasn’t a scientific community behind this, it exploded in their faces,” Peter Troch, the current director of science for Biosphere 2, told me over the phone.

During Mission 1, which ran from 1991 to 1993, the eight Biosphere 2 inhabitants reported continual hunger. CO2 levels within the habitat fluctuated wildly, most vertebrate life and all pollinating insects died, cockroach and ant populations exploded. Filtration systems clogged, unanticipated condensation dampened the desert, and morning glories took over the rainforest, choking out other plant life.

Worst of all for the humans, the oxygen levels inside the facility fell steadily over the first 16 months. The reason was unclear at the time, but researchers have since presented evidence that O2 was rapidly consumed by soil microorganisms. By January of 1993, oxygen levels had fallen to under 15 percent—equivalent to those found at an elevation of 13,000 feet. Since the inhabitants were starting to suffer from sleep apnea and fatigue, the management group was forced to intervene and artificially boost oxygen levels. The crew managed to eke it out another 9 months.


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Interesting read

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“Because there wasn’t a scientific community behind this, it exploded in their faces,” Peter Troch, the current director of science for Biosphere 2, told me over the phone.

 Quoting: Face Palmer


umm, it exploded in their faces, cause it was like the dumbest idea you ever herd of.

Science couldn't achieve better, cause science is not capable of that.
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“Because there wasn’t a scientific community behind this, it exploded in their faces,” Peter Troch, the current director of science for Biosphere 2, told me over the phone.

 Quoting: Face Palmer


umm, it exploded in their faces, cause it was like the dumbest idea you ever herd of.

Science couldn't achieve better, cause science is not capable of that.
 Quoting: Knightstar4


You can't even understand the meaning of the sentence, yet bitch about it?! Wow. Impressive chuckle
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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“Because there wasn’t a scientific community behind this, it exploded in their faces,” Peter Troch, the current director of science for Biosphere 2, told me over the phone.

 Quoting: Face Palmer


umm, it exploded in their faces, cause it was like the dumbest idea you ever herd of.

Science couldn't achieve better, cause science is not capable of that.
 Quoting: Knightstar4


You can't even understand the meaning of the sentence, yet bitch about it?! Wow. Impressive chuckle
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Why in the hell would you try to recreate the conditions already on earth, not only do we not know enough about ecology properly to manufacture that, it's not a feasible or sensible thing to even do.

The scientific community has shit for brains for even tolerating such bullshit doesn't it.
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That was a very interesting read FP - thanks!

"Plants are the best oxygen factories we've got."


:hugtreez:
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“Because there wasn’t a scientific community behind this, it exploded in their faces,” Peter Troch, the current director of science for Biosphere 2, told me over the phone.

 Quoting: Face Palmer


umm, it exploded in their faces, cause it was like the dumbest idea you ever herd of.

Science couldn't achieve better, cause science is not capable of that.
 Quoting: Knightstar4


You can't even understand the meaning of the sentence, yet bitch about it?! Wow. Impressive chuckle
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Why in the hell would you try to recreate the conditions already on earth, not only do we not know enough about ecology properly to manufacture that, it's not a feasible or sensible thing to even do.

The scientific community has shit for brains for even tolerating such bullshit doesn't it.
 Quoting: Knightstar4


“In our solar system, Mars is the only world for which we can entertain a scientific discussion about this idea,” Chris McKay of NASA’s Ames Research Center told me over the phone. To McKay, who has been leading the scientific discussion on Martian terraforming since the 90s, the idea of giving the red planet a green makeover is not nearly as crazy as it sounds. Still, the challenge will prove astronomically greater than building a biosphere in a lab
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women
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That was a very interesting read FP - thanks!

"Plants are the best oxygen factories we've got."


:hugtreez:
 Quoting: Sloane



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During Mission 1, which ran from 1991 to 1993, the eight Biosphere 2 inhabitants reported continual hunger. CO2 levels within the habitat fluctuated wildly, most vertebrate life and all pollinating insects died, cockroach and ant populations exploded. Filtration systems clogged, unanticipated condensation dampened the desert, and morning glories took over the rainforest, choking out other plant life.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Well congratulations sherlock. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong, and the most embarrassing thing being failure to realize this from the beginning of the experiment.

Since the inhabitants were starting to suffer from sleep apnea and fatigue, the management group was forced to intervene and artificially boost oxygen levels. The crew managed to eke it out another 9 months.
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Not only did it fail, but they are in such denial about their incompetence that they have resorted to artificially boosting the oxygen, cheating, just to continue their madness....
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During Mission 1, which ran from 1991 to 1993, the eight Biosphere 2 inhabitants reported continual hunger. CO2 levels within the habitat fluctuated wildly, most vertebrate life and all pollinating insects died, cockroach and ant populations exploded. Filtration systems clogged, unanticipated condensation dampened the desert, and morning glories took over the rainforest, choking out other plant life.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Well congratulations sherlock. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong, and the most embarrassing thing being failure to realize this from the beginning of the experiment.

Since the inhabitants were starting to suffer from sleep apnea and fatigue, the management group was forced to intervene and artificially boost oxygen levels. The crew managed to eke it out another 9 months.
 Quoting:


Not only did it fail, but they are in such denial about their incompetence that they have resorted to artificially boosting the oxygen, cheating, just to continue their madness....
 Quoting: Knightstar4


LOL! You did not understand A FUCKING WORD of the entire article. Please stfu.
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women
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Re: The Challenge of Recreating Earth
“In our solar system, Mars is the only world for which we can entertain a scientific discussion about this idea,” Chris McKay of NASA’s Ames Research Center told me over the phone. To McKay, who has been leading the scientific discussion on Martian terraforming since the 90s, the idea of giving the red planet a green makeover is not nearly as crazy as it sounds. Still, the challenge will prove astronomically greater than building a biosphere in a lab
 Quoting: Face Palmer


We can't even provide food water and shelter to everyone yet. What in the hell makes anyone think that it is a realistic priority to be talking about re-making mars. A planet we have not even traveled to.

We haven't even settled on the moon yet. It been decades and decades and not even one camera, not even one base, not even one form of travel for people to go there yet.
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“In our solar system, Mars is the only world for which we can entertain a scientific discussion about this idea,” Chris McKay of NASA’s Ames Research Center told me over the phone. To McKay, who has been leading the scientific discussion on Martian terraforming since the 90s, the idea of giving the red planet a green makeover is not nearly as crazy as it sounds. Still, the challenge will prove astronomically greater than building a biosphere in a lab
 Quoting: Face Palmer


We can't even provide food water and shelter to everyone yet. What in the hell makes anyone think that it is a realistic priority to be talking about re-making mars. A planet we have not even traveled to.

We haven't even settled on the moon yet. It been decades and decades and not even one camera, not even one base, not even one form of travel for people to go there yet.
 Quoting: Knightstar4


We have to start somewhere to eventually get it done.
And usually, the first tries go wrong.



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We have to start somewhere to eventuall get it done.
And usually, the first tries go wrong.

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oh romantic with your musical videos about the progression of science.

despite the fact tesla invented stuff that wasn't allowed to be distributed and got it right pretty much first time cause he actually knew what he was doing.....

You think tesla was out there with a wings on his arms, or some machine that flapped like a bird?

No, cause he wasn't stupid about how he did science. He figured out how things worked before he made them. He didn't just create stuff and hope for the best.
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*sigh*

This is why we can't have nice things.
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The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women
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*sigh*

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Well you try build a UFO, make a spinning wheel at the bottom and hope it takes off somehow. When it doesn't note the failures. You got to start somewhere pretend your doing science, even if you can't do anti-gravity just try....pretend.
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Maybe someone else is capable to break it down for you. I can't.
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The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women
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bump
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bump
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"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women
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Re: The Challenge of Recreating Earth
lots of stuff is 'possible' here on this planet

it's getting people today and in the future to go along with the plan, you know how well that's going to work out

its either too hard, too expensive, not worth the bother etc

but yes it's possible





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