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Does CPS have absolute authority to take your children?

 
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Does CPS have absolute authority to take your children?
My question is, Does CPS have the authority to take your children without a warrant? Do these CPS agents need to bring law enforcement with them to your home. Where is the line drawn? What happens if you don't open the door to CPS?
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You must comply with their "investigation." Or they will get the po-po after you!
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How does CPS have the right to seize your children on an anonymous call? Is the actions of the CPS unconstitutional?
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You must comply with their "investigation." Or they will get the po-po after you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68667155


What can the police charge you with if you don't comply?

Shouldn't CPS have s warrent first before they take your children away?
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You must comply with their "investigation." Or they will get the po-po after you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68667155


What can the police charge you with if you don't comply?

Shouldn't CPS have s warrent first before they take your children away?
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If you don't comply with the investigation, they will issue a warrant. Then you will have bigger troubles.
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CPS is evil.
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Invite them over, bake some cookies for them, put the kids in their sunday clothes. They will go away. Ignore them, you will have more problems and attorney fees than you can shake a stick at.
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You must comply with their "investigation." Or they will get the po-po after you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68667155


What can the police charge you with if you don't comply?

Shouldn't CPS have s warrent first before they take your children away?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69058496


If you don't comply with the investigation, they will issue a warrant. Then you will have bigger troubles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68667155


So what can you be charged with? I think people buckle under authoritarian pressure... It it is my belief the CPS has been operating unconstitutionally!
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Are you talking about constitutional law?

According to the constitution these people are nothing more than kid nappers that need to be tried, found guilty and hung.

According to the current police state they're demigods with the power to take that which you hold most dear.
 Quoting: Chip


Well put Chip! I was referring to the family in Kentucky that had their 10 children taken away because the did not comply with societal rules.

I you come in my house you'd better be well armed and not just a couple of nosy busybodies with BA in Child Psychology.
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Are you talking about constitutional law?

According to the constitution these people are nothing more than kid nappers that need to be tried, found guilty and hung.

According to the current police state they're demigods with the power to take that which you hold most dear.
 Quoting: Chip


Well put Chip! I was referring to the family in Kentucky that had their 10 children taken away because the did not comply with societal rules.

I you come in my house you'd better be well armed and not just a couple of nosy busybodies with BA in Child Psychology.
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Why do some of you guys talk SO tough on the internet?


"I'd shoot his ass!"

"Better not come near my house without a gun!"



Bottom line is, even if you were stupid enough to murder a CPS agent, you'd be spending the rest of your life in prison, getting raped by real tough guys (not internet warriors)....and your kids would be put into the system.


It is SOOOOO easy to pretend like shooting everything and everyone is a possibility without any consequences.....but anyone older than 12 without mental disabilities knows how it'll end.
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Are you talking about constitutional law?

According to the constitution these people are nothing more than kid nappers that need to be tried, found guilty and hung.

According to the current police state they're demigods with the power to take that which you hold most dear.
 Quoting: Chip


Well put Chip! I was referring to the family in Kentucky that had their 10 children taken away because the did not comply with societal rules.

I you come in my house you'd better be well armed and not just a couple of nosy busybodies with BA in Child Psychology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69058496




Why do some of you guys talk SO tough on the internet?


"I'd shoot his ass!"

"Better not come near my house without a gun!"



Bottom line is, even if you were stupid enough to murder a CPS agent, you'd be spending the rest of your life in prison, getting raped by real tough guys (not internet warriors)....and your kids would be put into the system.


It is SOOOOO easy to pretend like shooting everything and everyone is a possibility without any consequences.....but anyone older than 12 without mental disabilities knows how it'll end.
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Yet it's ok to plant seeds that there is no hope and you will end up dead. spoken like a good little slave.
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Are you talking about constitutional law?

According to the constitution these people are nothing more than kid nappers that need to be tried, found guilty and hung.

According to the current police state they're demigods with the power to take that which you hold most dear.
 Quoting: Chip


Well put Chip! I was referring to the family in Kentucky that had their 10 children taken away because the did not comply with societal rules.

I you come in my house you'd better be well armed and not just a couple of nosy busybodies with BA in Child Psychology.
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I didn't see that story OP.

What rules did they not comply with?

The only reasons CPS should come into a home are reports of:

A child is physically injured by other than accidental means.
A child is subjected to willful cruelty or unjustifiable punishment.
A child is abused or exploited sexually.
A child is neglected by a parent or caretaker who fails to provide adequate food, clothing, shelter, medical care or supervision.

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Thread: BREAKING; Police seize 10 Children from Homeschooled family living off the grid!!
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Technically, your children are your property and they have no right to take your children, regardless of the circumstance. The outcome depends on how intelligent and capable you are.

CPS fucks up many a family. However, I'm sure there are some fucking deadbeats who's children are used & abused and they don't have much of a case against the state.

If it is for some type of ridiculous bullshit, you simply refuse. Resist with force. In a court of law, no matter what they try to make you do, DO NOT sign anything. Instead, tell them that you demand the return of your property.

People will look at you as if you're sick for calling a child property, but the court has to return them under this circumstance. It's very complicated yet very simple.

Protect yourself and your children by not signing anything. NOTHING. Not even a form saying you spoke to someone. DOn't sign shit and tell them they will be met with deadly force if they attempt to steal your property. It's that simple.

There is a common law attorney who talks much about this, I forget his name but he's very successful. Someone may know his name.
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^ His name is Karl Lentz.
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screw the cps system. I had an ex gf that had two roommates that were male lovers, her kids went into their room and found a used condom and put it in their mouth. She took them to the docs for tests and she still has her kids. it really makes me sick Because the doctors shouldve reported that incident but nope She's still sleeping around probably knocked up again.
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Yes
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Technically, your children are your property and they have no right to take your children, regardless of the circumstance. The outcome depends on how intelligent and capable you are.

CPS fucks up many a family. However, I'm sure there are some fucking deadbeats who's children are used & abused and they don't have much of a case against the state.

If it is for some type of ridiculous bullshit, you simply refuse. Resist with force. In a court of law, no matter what they try to make you do, DO NOT sign anything. Instead, tell them that you demand the return of your property.

People will look at you as if you're sick for calling a child property, but the court has to return them under this circumstance. It's very complicated yet very simple.

Protect yourself and your children by not signing anything. NOTHING. Not even a form saying you spoke to someone. DOn't sign shit and tell them they will be met with deadly force if they attempt to steal your property. It's that simple.

There is a common law attorney who talks much about this, I forget his name but he's very successful. Someone may know his name.
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Wrong, The birth certificate makes them state property. not the parents property.
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Re: Does CPS have absolute authority to take your children?
The story posted on GLP indicates that CPS/Cops took their 10 children "just because of an anonymous call about their home schooling" (or "unschooling" as they called it)

Dig deeper.

You find out they were getting water from a natural source that was NOT on their property. The property owner didn't feel comfortable with them all over his property, so he told the father to stop doing it.

The dad/family needs/wants that water and they had an argument.

The Dad then looked at his son and told him to go get a gun.

That's where the threat came in.

That's when the phone call was made.

Now, the parents have been deemed as "unfit" because they encouraged "terroristic threatening" with a gun.

Still retarded, but it wasn't just because the kids weren't in school.

Just sayin'.
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How does CPS have the right to seize your children on an anonymous call? Is the actions of the CPS unconstitutional?
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No they do not have the right to do so and just someone acting on hearsay is not good enough.

Put it this way. If all police acted on hearsay it would be considered a waste of police time.


A child can also refuse to be taken.

They prey on the fact that if they can enter your home they can write lies about you.

They hunt families looking for susceptible ones that can supply them with children for the corrupt elite.

The police force behind it are probably Masonic.

A vampire cannot enter your home without being invited, therefor use their law against them.



They are disgusting.
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Fraid so.
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Where in either the federal or any State constitutions did the People grant ANY authority for "Family Court" jurisdiction?

Family Court is a usurped authority acting entirely outside of Law.
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Are you talking about constitutional law?

According to the constitution these people are nothing more than kid nappers that need to be tried, found guilty and hung.

According to the current police state they're demigods with the power to take that which you hold most dear.
 Quoting: Chip


Well put Chip! I was referring to the family in Kentucky that had their 10 children taken away because the did not comply with societal rules.

I you come in my house you'd better be well armed and not just a couple of nosy busybodies with BA in Child Psychology.
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I didn't see that story OP.

What rules did they not comply with?

The only reasons CPS should come into a home are reports of:

A child is physically injured by other than accidental means.
A child is subjected to willful cruelty or unjustifiable punishment.
A child is abused or exploited sexually.
A child is neglected by a parent or caretaker who fails to provide adequate food, clothing, shelter, medical care or supervision.


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Yes, only in those^^ cases.

They paid a visit to my son and daughter-in-law.
Scared the crap out of my dil and pissed my son dead off.

My grandson is autistic and was non-verbal so the doc thought he would benefit from school.
He has some health issues so he misses some days, but not excessively and the school was informed of this.

Other days he's nervous and agitated and the teachers can't handle him so they send him home and it counts against him.

So one of the teachers called CPS for "educational neglect" and they got the visit.
My dil told her what was going on so she said she also wanted to speak to my son and would call.
My son started calling her as soon as he got home from work that day (he came home early because of this) and the following couple of days, but couldn't reach her and she never returned any of the calls.

They've never heard another word. It's been a couple of weeks.

Imo, sending kids to public school is educational neglect not the other way around.
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How does CPS have the right to seize your children on an anonymous call? Is the actions of the CPS unconstitutional?
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My friend had her mean and vicious mommy dearest call on her. She really does have a mean bitch for a mom.

Don't panic. Make sure your house is clean and stays that way. Make sure you have enough food in your kitchen and refrigerator.
If you have a good friend or neighbor that can testify that you are in fact a good mother then everything will be okay.

I talked to them on behalf of my friend. She is not so clean but works hard, always makes sure the kids had everything (still does even know that they are 22 and 24).

Hopefully you are a good mom and this was just a mean spirited thing or a mis-understanding. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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Are you talking about constitutional law?

According to the constitution these people are nothing more than kid nappers that need to be tried, found guilty and hung.

According to the current police state they're demigods with the power to take that which you hold most dear.
 Quoting: Chip


Well put Chip! I was referring to the family in Kentucky that had their 10 children taken away because the did not comply with societal rules.

I you come in my house you'd better be well armed and not just a couple of nosy busybodies with BA in Child Psychology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69058496


I didn't see that story OP.

What rules did they not comply with?

The only reasons CPS should come into a home are reports of:

A child is physically injured by other than accidental means.
A child is subjected to willful cruelty or unjustifiable punishment.
A child is abused or exploited sexually.
A child is neglected by a parent or caretaker who fails to provide adequate food, clothing, shelter, medical care or supervision.


 Quoting: Sloane


Yes, only in those^^ cases.

They paid a visit to my son and daughter-in-law.
Scared the crap out of my dil and pissed my son dead off.

My grandson is autistic and was non-verbal so the doc thought he would benefit from school.
He has some health issues so he misses some days, but not excessively and the school was informed of this.

Other days he's nervous and agitated and the teachers can't handle him so they send him home and it counts against him.

So one of the teachers called CPS for "educational neglect" and they got the visit.
My dil told her what was going on so she said she also wanted to speak to my son and would call.
My son started calling her as soon as he got home from work that day (he came home early because of this) and the following couple of days, but couldn't reach her and she never returned any of the calls.

They've never heard another word. It's been a couple of weeks.

Imo, sending kids to public school is educational neglect not the other way around.
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Are you talking about constitutional law?

According to the constitution these people are nothing more than kid nappers that need to be tried, found guilty and hung.

According to the current police state they're demigods with the power to take that which you hold most dear.
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Goddamn it, Chip. That's the second time in 2015 you've got one ...


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Are you talking about constitutional law?

According to the constitution these people are nothing more than kid nappers that need to be tried, found guilty and hung.

According to the current police state they're demigods with the power to take that which you hold most dear.
 Quoting: Chip


Well put Chip! I was referring to the family in Kentucky that had their 10 children taken away because the did not comply with societal rules.

I you come in my house you'd better be well armed and not just a couple of nosy busybodies with BA in Child Psychology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69058496


I didn't see that story OP.

What rules did they not comply with?

The only reasons CPS should come into a home are reports of:

A child is physically injured by other than accidental means.
A child is subjected to willful cruelty or unjustifiable punishment.
A child is abused or exploited sexually.
A child is neglected by a parent or caretaker who fails to provide adequate food, clothing, shelter, medical care or supervision.


 Quoting: Sloane


Someone anonymously called them on me decades ago. The anonymous caller didn't claim any abuse or neglect. The anonymous caller told them that I had pigeons flying around inside my house, that my daughter bit her fingernails,I pulled her out of private school because I thought she was too good for the school, and that I change my bed sheets too often.
3 of the CPS workers came to my house. I didn't even have a pet bird, and hadn't had a pet bird in years.
The 3 workers left after finding nothing wrong.But, they did ask me how often I washed the bedsheets.:(
Sometimes the calls to CPS are b.s., just someone trying to cause you trouble.
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Has CPS people ever been killed for trying to take some child?
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Technically, your children are your property and they have no right to take your children, regardless of the circumstance. The outcome depends on how intelligent and capable you are.

CPS fucks up many a family. However, I'm sure there are some fucking deadbeats who's children are used & abused and they don't have much of a case against the state.

If it is for some type of ridiculous bullshit, you simply refuse. Resist with force. In a court of law, no matter what they try to make you do, DO NOT sign anything. Instead, tell them that you demand the return of your property.

People will look at you as if you're sick for calling a child property, but the court has to return them under this circumstance. It's very complicated yet very simple.

Protect yourself and your children by not signing anything. NOTHING. Not even a form saying you spoke to someone. DOn't sign shit and tell them they will be met with deadly force if they attempt to steal your property. It's that simple.

There is a common law attorney who talks much about this, I forget his name but he's very successful. Someone may know his name.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69144717


Wrong, The birth certificate makes them state property. not the parents property.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67594723



youre usage of the word wrong reveals your ignorance.

you are incorrect about the BC. the BC only indicates that an organization was organized. the problem we have here (pretty much everywhere on earth now) is that real people have been tricked into thinking that they are a name (an organization of letters)

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