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BREAKING: Projectile Hit AMTRACK Train Before Derailment. FBI Investigating - Possibly Three Trains Hit.

 
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Msm reporting on this today. Theyre already seemingly letting the engineer off the hook
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On one News station (can't remember which one) a couple days after this accident, was a story on how there was another train that had gone off the track, 13 cars of a cargo train on their side, only a few miles away about the same time.


I only saw that story once and then never again. Is that this third train?
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[link to pittsburgh.cbslocal.com]

HAZELWOOD (KDKA) – Cleanup is underway in Hazelwood after 13 cars jumped the train tracks in the Hazelwood area of Pittsburgh Thursday morning.
According to emergency dispatchers, the freight train derailed in the 4100-block of Second Avenue around 10 a.m.
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Don't fall for this nonsense people. The first day it happened they didn't say anything about projectiles and certainly not the engineer either. And even if something hit the window how does that make the train speed up. Give me a break this is such nonsense. Fbi will conclude ISIS did it and now we need more security measures. That's the whole point.
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Don't fall for this nonsense people. The first day it happened they didn't say anything about projectiles and certainly not the engineer either. And even if something hit the window how does that make the train speed up. Give me a break this is such nonsense. Fbi will conclude ISIS did it and now we need more security measures. That's the whole point.
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YEP
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On one News station (can't remember which one) a couple days after this accident, was a story on how there was another train that had gone off the track, 13 cars of a cargo train on their side, only a few miles away about the same time.


I only saw that story once and then never again. Is that this third train?
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[link to pittsburgh.cbslocal.com]

HAZELWOOD (KDKA) – Cleanup is underway in Hazelwood after 13 cars jumped the train tracks in the Hazelwood area of Pittsburgh Thursday morning.
According to emergency dispatchers, the freight train derailed in the 4100-block of Second Avenue around 10 a.m.
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On one News station (can't remember which one) a couple days after this accident, was a story on how there was another train that had gone off the track, 13 cars of a cargo train on their side, only a few miles away about the same time.


I only saw that story once and then never again. Is that this third train?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66073387


[link to pittsburgh.cbslocal.com]

HAZELWOOD (KDKA) – Cleanup is underway in Hazelwood after 13 cars jumped the train tracks in the Hazelwood area of Pittsburgh Thursday morning.
According to emergency dispatchers, the freight train derailed in the 4100-block of Second Avenue around 10 a.m.
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Thank you!
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You're welcome.
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If the train was in fact hit by a projectile it opens up the possibility that it was hit by more than one, and that some critical part suffered damage that may have left him unable to control the train. Damage that could have been written off as a result of the accident, but may actually have occurred prior to and not after the crash.

The hack theory also seems possible to me. The bottom line is I have not seen a single thing to indicate that this particular engineer would ever act so recklessly for no reason, which means something happened. He clearly had not simply fallen asleep, since he was heard speaking immediately prior to the accident.

Unfortunately for his defense, I think this also makes it impossible to claim he was knocked out as a result of a projectile weapon.. He was awake to relay the information that his train had been struck, so it would again have required multiple "projectiles" to open up that possibility. Moreover, his attempt to use the emergency brakes at the last second also seems to indicate consciousness. However, in my mind, the most likely reason one would reach for the emergency brakes would be because the normal breaks were not working and he realized the train was out of his control. When you are driving around town and see a car stop short in front of you, you don't automatically grab the emergency brake. That is a last resort that to me indicates extreme fear and a high level of awareness.

Obviously I could be wrong, but this is how the situation looks to me for the moment. I just hope his memory returns so that he can help to unravel the mystery. He was obviously very passionate about his job and was also disgusted by the careless lack of safety measures taken by the industry as a whole. Being caught up in a disaster like this must be this man's worst nightmare. On top of that, he can't even remember what happened - and no one even believes him. A dear friend of mine was in a car accident years ago and, to this day, still can not remember what happened. No other cars were involved, but it led to the death of his best friend. Having no memory of what happened is torture for him, and surely is for this man as well.
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Very well thought out analysis. I think you are right on about his using the emergency break as a last resort. I agree with your analysis -- the engineer was awake and aware right before the derailment.
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Even so

The projectile didnt make the train speed up from 70-100+ mph, unless the engineer panicked?
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or he got hit in the head and his body landed on the accelerator??
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I have a feeling there is more to this than human error. Don't think a projectile would cause the train to speed unless the projectile was directed at destroying something mechanical that could cause a failure.

Just musing, as I know nothing about trains. Maybe someone who does know about this type of train could let us know if this could possible happen.
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That is what I thought, too.
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FBI back on scene.
I thought they already determined -along with the general
Masses and MSM that the guy "behind the wheel" was guilty.

Lmao. FBI back on scene.
Perhaps someone should tell the FBI to look at mangled train.

? Bomb?


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What do you think happened?
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I think the Chinese used the back door to all the electronics that they manufacture and was used on this train to take control of it and speed it up.
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Don't fall for this nonsense people. The first day it happened they didn't say anything about projectiles and certainly not the engineer either. And even if something hit the window how does that make the train speed up. Give me a break this is such nonsense. Fbi will conclude ISIS did it and now we need more security measures. That's the whole point.
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YEP
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They could have said the same thing about air France. They didn't.

It could very well have been a terrorist effort. Your mindset, the fickle, naive notion that terrorism is a cover story, Needs to get their head checked asap.

Could have nothing to do with the crash. But speciating this early in the game is akin to a virgin saying its the best sex they've ever had. You have no basis for comparison and you certainly are not in-the-know about anything. Your making yourself look young and stupid.
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What I'm wondering is from where would the projectiles have come from? From the pics I've seen so far I can't tell where possible origination points could be. Maybe someone who knows this area could help.
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that looks like a rock hit the front glass, whioh would've happened after the derailment. a rock could've easily busted that window when the engine was on the field picking up dust and rocks. it's just an excuse to get off the hook that gay conductor.
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Drones, check the sky cam.
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Even so

The projectile didnt make the train speed up from 70-100+ mph, unless the engineer panicked?
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or he got hit in the head and his body landed on the accelerator??
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That is what they are saying might have happened.
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Drones, check the sky cam.
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Now that's a thought.
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The engineer is a homo activist, so the MSM is going to bend over backwards to let him off the hook.

I think it has been established that he was traveling more than 100 miles per hour, which was twice the speed limit there. BTW, a projectile could be a missile fired by a terrorist, but it could also be a rock hurled at the train by a bunch of kids, which probably happens all the time.

But because the engineer is an outspoken homo, they are going to try and exonerate him, It really is despicable.
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Of course you wouldn't be saying that if the operator died. Has the passenger manifest been conspiratarded to death yet? I can't wait to hear all the ones died were CERN employees. Rofl Or some other shit
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Even so

The projectile didnt make the train speed up from 70-100+ mph, unless the engineer panicked?
 Quoting: Thetruthmonger™


the train speed is automatic, it was hit by something just like the other conductor said.
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The engineer is a homo activist, so the MSM is going to bend over backwards to let him off the hook.

I think it has been established that he was traveling more than 100 miles per hour, which was twice the speed limit there. BTW, a projectile could be a missile fired by a terrorist, but it could also be a rock hurled at the train by a bunch of kids, which probably happens all the time.

But because the engineer is an outspoken homo, they are going to try and exonerate him, It really is despicable.
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I had no idea.
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Of course you wouldn't be saying that if the operator died. Has the passenger manifest been conspiratarded to death yet? I can't wait to hear all the ones died were CERN employees. Rofl Or some other shit
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I don't think you are on the right forum.
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Even so

The projectile didnt make the train speed up from 70-100+ mph, unless the engineer panicked?
 Quoting: Thetruthmonger™


the train speed is automatic, it was hit by something just like the other conductor said.
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I agree that something hit that train.
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Of course you wouldn't be saying that if the operator died. Has the passenger manifest been conspiratarded to death yet? I can't wait to hear all the ones died were CERN employees. Rofl Or some other shit
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I don't think you are on the right forum.
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Oh the irony here.
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There were reports of this the very day it happened, right here on glp. IIRC, at least one was pinned. Glad to see it hasn't been forgotten.
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I have a feeling there is more to this than human error. Don't think a projectile would cause the train to speed unless the projectile was directed at destroying something mechanical that could cause a failure.

Just musing, as I know nothing about trains. Maybe someone who does know about this type of train could let us know if this could possible happen.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


No you are correct.

We're talking a one in a million shot to hit something that would prevent the engineer from slowing down. And probably a one in a billion shot to hit something that would make the train speed up.

I know for a fact that public transit rail systems (probably 90% of them) indeed have a dead man switch or pedal. Meaning the throttle has to be squeezed of a pedal pressed in order to keep the train moving.

As AMTRAK is not light rail, I do not know what systems are in place.

Did a kid throw a rock at the window, the engineer freaked out and pushed the throttle all the way down?

Could be as simple as that?

EDIT: Just looked it up, looks like the controls of a freight train. So the train moves via manual throttle with no dead man system.

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I was talking with friends the other day about the story hitting MSM over the Osama Bin Laden lies. I said, once this story hits CNN or Fox some event will occur to cover that up and keep the media preoccupied. I saw this thing start out on small websites, then here, then RT and the following day it hit CNN where the government denied it.

Then... hours later... BAM! Train derailed. CNN/Fox covering the train since.

Now we have an engineer that is one of the most safest train engineers in the industry and he has no idea what happened?
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Even so

The projectile didnt make the train speed up from 70-100+ mph, unless the engineer panicked?
 Quoting: Thetruthmonger™


the train speed is automatic, it was hit by something just like the other conductor said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25645632


I don't think it has been determined yet whether the increase in speed was automatic or manual.

[link to www.pressdisplay.com]

"Officials reveal this as probe centers on engineer at helm."

"Investigators say they don’t know if the increase was automatic or manual. PHILADELPHIA — An Amtrak passenger train that flew off the tracks at high speed, killing eight people, steadily and rapidly accelerated in the 65 seconds before entering a curve, investigators said Thursday as the mystery behind the engineer’s actions deepened."

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Even so

The projectile didnt make the train speed up from 70-100+ mph, unless the engineer panicked?
 Quoting: Thetruthmonger™


the train speed is automatic, it was hit by something just like the other conductor said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25645632


I don't think it has been determined yet whether the increase in speed was automatic or manual.

[link to www.pressdisplay.com]

"Officials reveal this as probe centers on engineer at helm."

"Investigators say they don’t know if the increase was automatic or manual. PHILADELPHIA — An Amtrak passenger train that flew off the tracks at high speed, killing eight people, steadily and rapidly accelerated in the 65 seconds before entering a curve, investigators said Thursday as the mystery behind the engineer’s actions deepened."
 Quoting: toprance1


The speed is not "automatic" it's not like a Airbus where you dial in your intended speed. There is a throttle, you throttle up until you hit the speed you want and you leave the throttle there.

It's more like a large boat, you push the lever forward to speed up. Once you hit speed, you lock it in.
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LOL, they are not bullet proof! I work with trains everyday.
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Even so

The projectile didnt make the train speed up from 70-100+ mph, unless the engineer panicked?
 Quoting: Thetruthmonger™


the train speed is automatic, it was hit by something just like the other conductor said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25645632


I don't think it has been determined yet whether the increase in speed was automatic or manual.

[link to www.pressdisplay.com]

"Officials reveal this as probe centers on engineer at helm."

"Investigators say they don’t know if the increase was automatic or manual. PHILADELPHIA — An Amtrak passenger train that flew off the tracks at high speed, killing eight people, steadily and rapidly accelerated in the 65 seconds before entering a curve, investigators said Thursday as the mystery behind the engineer’s actions deepened."
 Quoting: toprance1


The speed is not "automatic" it's not like a Airbus where you dial in your intended speed. There is a throttle, you throttle up until you hit the speed you want and you leave the throttle there.

It's more like a large boat, you push the lever forward to speed up. Once you hit speed, you lock it in.
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Could the engineer have passed out and hit the throttle?





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