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Britons threaten Muslim beheadings in footage

Daniel Foggo, London


September 04, 2006

FAR-RIGHT extremists have adopted the tactics of Islamic jihadis by posting videos on the internet in which they threaten to behead British Muslims.
The films show balaclava-clad white British men brandishing guns, knives and clubs, calling on all Muslims to leave Britain or be killed. One appears to be a soldier who has served in the Gulf.

In one film, a man tells Muslims to "go home" or risk being burned alive. He threatens, "I'll cut your head off", and claims to have "comrades" across Britain who have "had enough".

The videos were made after the arrests three weeks ago of suspects connected to the alleged plot to blow up trans-Atlantic jets. Their style mimics the "martyrdom videos" of Islamic radicals.

The release of the videos on YouTube, a US-based open-access website, coincides with reports of a rise in the number of attacks on mosques.

Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, said the videoed threats were extremely worrying.

"There is no question there has been an increase in attacks on mosques and Muslims," he said at the weekend.

The videos, posted between August 11 and 19, depict three men, each wearing a black terrorist-style mask.

Would-be viewers of the clips, lasting two to three minutes, are told in a YouTube warning the videos "may contain content that is inappropriate for some users".

In one video, a man with a London accent says: "I wish to know what we are going to do to fight the so-called religion of peace known as Islam."

He lists incidents including the racially motivated murder of Ross Parker, a white teenager, on September 21, 2001. The alleged airline bomb plot is also mentioned, with the masked man claiming it has resulted in "no retaliation" against Muslims.

He says: "It may be because you fear prison. Well, wake up. I am calling on England, Ulster, Scotland and Wales to stand and defend the island that we love."

Another video, dated August 19, shows a balaclava-clad man with a Welsh accent telling Muslims to "go home" or be burned.

Brandishing a 30cm-long hunting knife with a serrated blade, he says: "We are going to rip the life out of you. I am going to tear your guts out. I'll cut your head off."

In a reference that may indicate a military background, he says the slaughter would remind him of being "back in the Gulf".

The Sunday Times


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OK, Londoners, tell us... what on earth is going on??
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Behead Muslims... chuckle
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Relax.

Nothing will come of this.

We Brits will just quietly buckle under to the Religion Of Peace (TM).
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OK, Londoners, tell us... what on earth is going on??
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Jews?
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They are probably mostly ex-soldiers who saw time in Iraq and have seen their friends killed. They could be suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. There's no feeling like that amongst ordinary British people.
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C'mon, somebody must know something about this!

We're waiting for you Londoners!
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C'mon, somebody must know something about this!

We're waiting for you Londoners!
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London.

It's the only city in the UK, dontcha know.


lmao
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They are probably mostly ex-soldiers who saw time in Iraq and have seen their friends killed. They could be suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. There's no feeling like that amongst ordinary British people.
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Exactly. Remember TPTB are INTENTIONALLY trying to stir up civil unrest and a war of civilizations; divide, conquer then rule. Psyops is the name of their favourite modus operandi. I live in England and have neither noticed or heard about ANY trouble between Brits and Muslims. In fact, we all feel sorry for the poor gits because of the war in Iraq!
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They are probably mostly ex-soldiers who saw time in Iraq and have seen their friends killed. They could be suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. There's no feeling like that amongst ordinary British people.


Exactly. Remember TPTB are INTENTIONALLY trying to stir up civil unrest and a war of civilizations; divide, conquer then rule. Psyops is the name of their favourite modus operandi. I live in England and have neither noticed or heard about ANY trouble between Brits and Muslims. In fact, we all feel sorry for the poor gits because of the war in Iraq!
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Yes. This crude rubbish reeks of psyop.
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Don't TPTB know that we are more intelligent than this? The Brits didn't believe the recent Blair/Bush aeroplane bombs psyop, so why do they keep believing we are open to being terrorised into submission? WE ALL HATE BLAIR AND BUSH.

They need a new script writer with a good imagination!
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Actually the Brits have a long history in the days of yore where they would behead their enemies then in battle throw the severed heads back at the enemy.
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Head hurlures they where called, they would soak the heads in lime and then when tossed would land on the enemies and burn their skin.
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They are probably mostly ex-soldiers who saw time in Iraq and have seen their friends killed. They could be suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. There's no feeling like that amongst ordinary British people.


Exactly. Remember TPTB are INTENTIONALLY trying to stir up civil unrest and a war of civilizations; divide, conquer then rule. Psyops is the name of their favourite modus operandi. I live in England and have neither noticed or heard about ANY trouble between Brits and Muslims. In fact, we all feel sorry for the poor gits because of the war in Iraq!
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Are you sure you haven't heard anything? I've heard of the odd incident here and there.
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Head hurlures they where called, they would soak the heads in lime and then when tossed would land on the enemies and burn their skin.
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Actually, I prefer to carefully flay my vanquished enemies, soak them in brine for a while, then impale them on roughly-hewn stakes.

But, hey, that's just me!
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Considering years ago the Brits use to roll the dead muslim corpses in pig skin to stop the muslims I figured the Brits would be the first who struck back in a way the muslims would understand.
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C'mon, somebody must know something about this!

We're waiting for you Londoners!


London.

It's the only city in the UK, dontcha know.


lmao
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Well, London does seem to be the hotbed of the extremism. So, I would prefer to hear from a Londoner.

But any Englishman, please contribute!
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I imagine this is bullshit bravado
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Considering years ago the Brits use to roll the dead muslim corpses in pig skin to stop the muslims I figured the Brits would be the first who struck back in a way the muslims would understand.
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Oh, we will. Should it come to that.

We're generally nice people. But we know how to fight real dirty.
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They are probably mostly ex-soldiers who saw time in Iraq and have seen their friends killed. They could be suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. There's no feeling like that amongst ordinary British people.


Exactly. Remember TPTB are INTENTIONALLY trying to stir up civil unrest and a war of civilizations; divide, conquer then rule. Psyops is the name of their favourite modus operandi. I live in England and have neither noticed or heard about ANY trouble between Brits and Muslims. In fact, we all feel sorry for the poor gits because of the war in Iraq!


Are you sure you haven't heard anything? I've heard of the odd incident here and there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 139139


Not a jot! As I said, there is great sympathy for the Muslims because of the illegal war in Iraq and because of the bombing of the Palastinian people by Israel. After 9/11 there was anger at the Muslims, but now we know it was a psyop there is only sympathy. Our leadership may be Zionist but the majority of the Brits aren't!
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If not psyops, then it could be a mixture of football hooligans/national front/BNP.
The chelsea headhunters are what are termed as a football firm or gang or football hooligans that are well organised and have affiliations with glasgow rangers football hooligans who also have connections to loyalist irish groups.
I believe there are underlying connections between many football firms, even though when they come together for a football match they are enemies.
The chelsea headhunters are known to have ex soldiers among them.
I don't know if I am making a correct assumtion in that they might have something to do with it as I am just trying to connect the dots.
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Ps, I just used the chelsea headhunters as an example.
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They are probably mostly ex-soldiers who saw time in Iraq and have seen their friends killed. They could be suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. There's no feeling like that amongst ordinary British people.


Exactly. Remember TPTB are INTENTIONALLY trying to stir up civil unrest and a war of civilizations; divide, conquer then rule. Psyops is the name of their favourite modus operandi. I live in England and have neither noticed or heard about ANY trouble between Brits and Muslims. In fact, we all feel sorry for the poor gits because of the war in Iraq!


Are you sure you haven't heard anything? I've heard of the odd incident here and there.


Not a jot! As I said, there is great sympathy for the Muslims because of the illegal war in Iraq and because of the bombing of the Palastinian people by Israel. After 9/11 there was anger at the Muslims, but now we know it was a psyop there is only sympathy. Our leadership may be Zionist but the majority of the Brits aren't!
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I think this is true.

There is very little (overt) anti-Muslim feeling or action here right now.

This might well change, though, if a "tipping point" is reached.

Ie; if the Muslims in the UK start declaring localised 'Stans.

Blackburn, Bolton and Bradford spring to mind here.

If they start ghettoising big-time, and imposing Sharia, then all bets are off.
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The Chelsea Headhunters are a football firm that are linked to the London football team Chelsea F.C.

Nearly all major football teams in Britain have suffered from violence amongst fans and many teams have a specific gang (called a "firm" or 'Casuals' in Scotland) attached to that team, comprising of 'hardcore' thugs whose violence is usually organised and pre-meditated, rather than spontaneous. The Chelsea Headhunters are one of many such gangs, but are amongst the most high-profile.

There is widespread racism amongst the gang and links to various white supremacist organisations, such as Combat 18 and the National Front.

They were infiltrated by investigative reporter Donal MacIntyre for a documentary screened on the BBC on November 9, 1999, in which MacIntyre posed as a wannabe-member of the Chelsea Headhunters. He even had a Chelsea tattoo applied to himself for authenticity. He confirmed the racist elements to the Headhunters and their links to Combat 18, including one top-ranking member who had been imprisoned on one occasion for possession of material related to the Ku Klux Klan.

The programme led to arrests and several convictions.

Back in 1986, one Chelsea 'headhunter' was sentenced to life imprisonment and another was sentenced to ten years behind bars for a series of violent offences at football grounds over the country. A year later, another of the 'Headhunters' - 25-year-old Terence Matthews - was sentenced to four years in prison for an attack which almost claimed the life of a pub landlord.

Nick Love's controversial 2004 Film, The Football Factory, presents the Headhunters in a fictionalized account. The film focuses mainly on the firms violent rivalry with the notorious Bushwackers firm, who support South-London, League One side, Millwall.
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Well, London does seem to be the hotbed of the extremism. So, I would prefer to hear from a Londoner.

But any Englishman, please contribute!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72054




I`m from London and I see no more extremism here tham anywhere else


I don`t however live in the thick of the Muslim community though where I do live there are peoples of all races and seem to get along fine


I think people are more interested in how they`re treated individually by others and as long as every one treats with respect,it`s fine

there is a mosque locally and on occassion after some outrage there`s been a prsence of police etc but I`ve never heard of any attacks etc
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nothing like this here OP.
We Brits are very different than the yanks. For start we are not as fanatic as you are with Christianity, hence we have a broader point of view. Second we do not believe every word we are told by media and the heads of government. We tend to think for ourselves. Third, we do not go on a propeganda campain with lies etc to change people's opinion (even though our government does). Hell, none of us believed for a moment that the 7/7 bombing was done by muslims. Even when 9/11 happened, it took us about a month before we got over the shock and then we began to smell the rot. No one in the family, friends, office etc will ever believe the propeganda set up by USA and our government. As far as Muslims are concerned, most of us support them specially about Iraq and certainly after Lebenon.
I know our governments are friends and we speak the same language but we do not think the same.
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They are probably mostly ex-soldiers who saw time in Iraq and have seen their friends killed. They could be suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome. There's no feeling like that amongst ordinary British people.


Exactly. Remember TPTB are INTENTIONALLY trying to stir up civil unrest and a war of civilizations; divide, conquer then rule. Psyops is the name of their favourite modus operandi. I live in England and have neither noticed or heard about ANY trouble between Brits and Muslims. In fact, we all feel sorry for the poor gits because of the war in Iraq!


Are you sure you haven't heard anything? I've heard of the odd incident here and there.


Not a jot! As I said, there is great sympathy for the Muslims because of the illegal war in Iraq and because of the bombing of the Palastinian people by Israel. After 9/11 there was anger at the Muslims, but now we know it was a psyop there is only sympathy. Our leadership may be Zionist but the majority of the Brits aren't!


I think this is true.

There is very little (overt) anti-Muslim feeling or action here right now.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 132975



Really!

so tell me, is there great suspicion about the plane plot?

I thought it sounded very suspicious, until I heard about 'suicide videotapes'. That was a while ago, and there are no tapes surfacing, are there? Do they exist? Wouldn't we have seen them by now?

What is the scoop?
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"Really!

so tell me, is there great suspicion about the plane plot?

I thought it sounded very suspicious, until I heard about 'suicide videotapes'. That was a while ago, and there are no tapes surfacing, are there? Do they exist? Wouldn't we have seen them by now?

What is the scoop?"

I'm probably being a bit slow here, but which "plane plot" are you referring to?
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Unlike America, UK is a small country and generally there are minorities in every community. Asian corner shops, Asian Doctors and chemists, Indian, Greek and many other fast food outlets which are used by almost 99% of English people. As a result we have direct access to the behaviour and thinking of minority. As a result we are not easily fooled by media. We are shown pictures on TV and reports that come from USA. We are shown Bush and Rumsfield beating the war drums backed by Blair and yet person to person we see otherwise. We see that things told to us by media are nothing like what we see face to face. I think this is a great advantage of having a small and close country. Also we are more reserved than the Yanks and we do not get hyped up so easily. London 7/7 was a waste of time and precious lives that did not achieve anything. Our government let us down by supporting yours and this will badly affect them come the next election.
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Second we do not believe every word we are told by media and the heads of government. We tend to think for ourselves. Third, we do not go on a propeganda campain with lies etc to change people's opinion (even though our government does). Hell, none of us believed for a moment that the 7/7 bombing was done by muslims. Even when 9/11 happened, it took us about a month before we got over the shock and then we began to smell the rot.
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Err, I think many of those that read the sun newspaper that day would have.
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The British may have been beheading Arabs all along. They appear to be the insurgents we are looking for.If they incite a civil war, they can stay there longer.

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