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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66381484 Canada 05/22/2015 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? The 307 was an early smog motor. Why make such a big deal over a piece of junk that will never run? Put a 327 or 350 back in the engine compartment with later model heads. Your customer will be much happier in the long run. If he doesn't want cubes, go to a 302 or 283. Quoting: tibetbill 27829614 I have to agree here, what a waste of resources. |
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mkarenh13 User ID: 69303485 United States 05/22/2015 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? Guy calls yesterday says he has an engine he wants gone thru. Okay bring it in. Turns out it's a 68 Camaro 307. No big deal except they didn't know well enough to turn the short block over to remove each rod cap. Looks to me like they took all the rod caps off. Turned it over enough to get to the remaining caps off. Now the crank has rod thread marks all over the crank meaning it'll probably have to go 20 instead of 10 since they're pretty deep. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Now all the rod caps are in the bottom of a bucket, of course they're not numbered. People. Save yourself money. Leave it to experienced builders. I've been in repair and parts for 25 years. I always love hearing "It said this/that on the internet" The internet turning everyone into mechanics instantly. And yes, it does end up costing you twice as much to have someone go back and fix your mistakes. |
IDW User ID: 69300272 United States 05/22/2015 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? I've always numbered them and put them back where they went, including an arrow pointing towards front of engine(even "good" mechanics forget this sometimes and that WILL ruin a job!) |
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IDW User ID: 69300272 United States 05/22/2015 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? If you knew shit about rebuilding an engine, the rods should be rebuilt or at least resized on the big end any way. Problem solved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69302426 Redundant, unless a rod has been knocking. Unless the engine has been really abused the rods will still be fine. On most jobs you'll have one rod knocking (usually the front) and that rod needs to be REPLACED with a new rod.If you've got several that were on worn out bearings, you can have them all resized and put matching oversize bearings on. At ever step where machining is involved there is the chance for error, and one .005 error means a crankshaft that runs a few minutes before it's shot again. generally speaking the first method is better on your wallet and holds together better |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69063494 United States 05/22/2015 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? a well trained eye can match up the big end caps and rods again. also i hate hearing how different engines are now if you understand sensors and a CDI its the same engine as a late 90's.the computer does all the work i think they are easier now. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21517811 United States 05/23/2015 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? and reusing rods on a rebuild, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35894017 So I knew some how I was going to get some kind of WOTFat the last shop I went to, they put the wheel/tire balancing weights on the outside of the wheels, totally a new one. There's nothing wrong with reusing rods. Indeed seasoned rods are fine for common builds and street rods. They should be resized and fitted with ARP bolts. Actually stock SBC rods are forged and already fitted with 170Kpsi bolts. Pioneer bolts. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21517811 United States 05/23/2015 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? If you knew shit about rebuilding an engine, the rods should be rebuilt or at least resized on the big end any way. Problem solved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69302426 Redundant, unless a rod has been knocking. Unless the engine has been really abused the rods will still be fine. On most jobs you'll have one rod knocking (usually the front) and that rod needs to be REPLACED with a new rod.If you've got several that were on worn out bearings, you can have them all resized and put matching oversize bearings on. At ever step where machining is involved there is the chance for error, and one .005 error means a crankshaft that runs a few minutes before it's shot again. generally speaking the first method is better on your wallet and holds together better Only morans do rod work to a fine rod. This engine was running. Therefore no bad bearings. The rods wouuld get washed and that's it. I've built hundreds of engines this way. Btw..#5 rod is the lucky rod that usually goes due to being last to receive oil. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41923479 United States 05/23/2015 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? Guy calls yesterday says he has an engine he wants gone thru. Okay bring it in. Turns out it's a 68 Camaro 307. No big deal except they didn't know well enough to turn the short block over to remove each rod cap. Looks to me like they took all the rod caps off. Turned it over enough to get to the remaining caps off. Now the crank has rod thread marks all over the crank meaning it'll probably have to go 20 instead of 10 since they're pretty deep. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Now all the rod caps are in the bottom of a bucket, of course they're not numbered. People. Save yourself money. Leave it to experienced builders. Dude, where's the doom? Where's the conspiracy? Where are the UFO sightings? Sorry to be the one to tell you, but this ain't no Chevy forum. You have every right to go shill for Israel or catapult propaganda in ANOTHER THREAD. |
ChvyV8Bldr (OP) User ID: 21517811 United States 05/23/2015 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? The 307 was an early smog motor. Why make such a big deal over a piece of junk that will never run? Put a 327 or 350 back in the engine compartment with later model heads. Your customer will be much happier in the long run. If he doesn't want cubes, go to a 302 or 283. Quoting: tibetbill 27829614 I have to agree here, what a waste of resources. Most of the time I would have sold him a 350 and could make it look like the original 307. But 307 only came with 2bbl. It'll be easier for me to pull a set of good used rods off the shelf for this job. These rods will get sized, bolts, shotpeened. Balanced. The bitch about this is you do all this work to stock forged rods, when you can buy aftermarket forged rods 190,000 bolts and floaters if you want for $125.00 new in the box. Last Edited by TwentyTwenty on 05/23/2015 08:00 AM Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me Kingdoms were run by kings Empires were run by Emperors Countries are run by..... Dumps were almost fixed by Trump |
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Aman User ID: 66977628 United States 05/23/2015 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? Guy calls yesterday says he has an engine he wants gone thru. Okay bring it in. Turns out it's a 68 Camaro 307. No big deal except they didn't know well enough to turn the short block over to remove each rod cap. Looks to me like they took all the rod caps off. Turned it over enough to get to the remaining caps off. Now the crank has rod thread marks all over the crank meaning it'll probably have to go 20 instead of 10 since they're pretty deep. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Now all the rod caps are in the bottom of a bucket, of course they're not numbered. People. Save yourself money. Leave it to experienced builders. hey, look on the bright side, you get to charge to resize the big-ends now. |
ChvyV8Bldr (OP) User ID: 21517811 United States 05/23/2015 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? Guy calls yesterday says he has an engine he wants gone thru. Okay bring it in. Turns out it's a 68 Camaro 307. No big deal except they didn't know well enough to turn the short block over to remove each rod cap. Looks to me like they took all the rod caps off. Turned it over enough to get to the remaining caps off. Now the crank has rod thread marks all over the crank meaning it'll probably have to go 20 instead of 10 since they're pretty deep. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Now all the rod caps are in the bottom of a bucket, of course they're not numbered. People. Save yourself money. Leave it to experienced builders. hey, look on the bright side, you get to charge to resize the big-ends now. I guess. Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me Kingdoms were run by kings Empires were run by Emperors Countries are run by..... Dumps were almost fixed by Trump |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32202023 United States 05/23/2015 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pull your own engine, fine, but please don't disassemble it before taking it to your rebuilder. Please? Guy calls yesterday says he has an engine he wants gone thru. Okay bring it in. Turns out it's a 68 Camaro 307. No big deal except they didn't know well enough to turn the short block over to remove each rod cap. Looks to me like they took all the rod caps off. Turned it over enough to get to the remaining caps off. Now the crank has rod thread marks all over the crank meaning it'll probably have to go 20 instead of 10 since they're pretty deep. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Now all the rod caps are in the bottom of a bucket, of course they're not numbered. People. Save yourself money. Leave it to experienced builders. Sounds like the old screwdriver and claw hammer tear down. |
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