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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator 05/22/2015 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Phenom Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9578086 Had a family member get the back surgery and was bed ridden for weeks. You pretty much have to have A LOT of help. The post-pain is a bitch but they give you the strong stuff (oxy, I think) The surgery helped tremendously though, after the lengthy recovery; no more pain, no more movement problems. Could lift more than paper again, wear dress shoes, ect. It's definitely a producure you would only want done if you 100% need it. ive been on oxycontin so fucking long im the mfr's spokes person. i hate havn my kids "help" yanno? cant have my folks "help" my folks are *george costanza's parents* <seinfeld reference> political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69286966 United States 05/22/2015 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen... You don't want to experience spinal fusion. The recovery time can take up to a year and the pain can be incredible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69285827 The worst level is l5/s1 because they have to put screws into the sacrum. If pain meds halfway work... Continue until you can't get them. It's getting very bad for people who are in pain. People just don't know what pain will do to you. Doctors say they're scared to prescribe, but the dea is only going after those who are knowingly handing out drugs to addicts. I need rods and screws at l5/s1 and artificial disk between l4/l5. I did my research and talked with others who had fusion surgery. I only know one person who is pain free. Some have more pain than before surgery. This is pretty much what I have heard. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64360425 United States 05/22/2015 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For example, at age 18, I had pretty much established an identity of who I was and had plans hopes and dreams. My surgery was a total reset. I literally spend the next 16 or so years trying to re-establish a new identity and reshape my expectations of myself and the world. I had to give up on certain goals and dreams, because my condition would not warrant me engaging in them. I think this is true for anyone in a similar instance, be it the loss of a limb, an eye or what have you. Be prepared that you may need to reshape/redefine how you, yourself, as well as others may be challenged when adjusting to the new you. I spent many years in frustration and anguish over my limitations. I still get that way at times, but now I have grown accustomed to it. Others though over time tend to forget my limitations which also can be vexing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69303287 United States 05/22/2015 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Phenom Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9578086 Had a family member get the back surgery and was bed ridden for weeks. You pretty much have to have A LOT of help. The post-pain is a bitch but they give you the strong stuff (oxy, I think) The surgery helped tremendously though, after the lengthy recovery; no more pain, no more movement problems. Could lift more than paper again, wear dress shoes, ect. It's definitely a producure you would only want done if you 100% need it. ive been on oxycontin so fucking long im the mfr's spokes person. i hate havn my kids "help" yanno? cant have my folks "help" my folks are *george costanza's parents* <seinfeld reference> my sons been takin care of his 2 kids both under 2. i so hate to hear how hard it is;-( |
sacred energy User ID: 69261292 Australia 05/22/2015 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can only speak from being married to a doctor who does spine cases all the time. What I am told is, once you do one fusion, you will eventually end up having to fuse the entire spine. When you fuse two vertebra it stresses the neighboring and its a chain reaction all the way up and down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69286966 The advice I give is only do a fusion procedure when you absolutely have to.... like you are shitting and pissing your pants everywhere you go because of neurological impact of a spinal condition. Else, try to tough it out for as long as you can. |
Endtimewatchman User ID: 62971563 United States 05/22/2015 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Phen....may sound crazy but what would it hurt to really check some spiritual healing pastors or services. Miracles can and do happen. Quoting: Endtimewatchman 62971563 not to long ago i hadda cousin literally bleeding from every orfice of her body (this during ebola "crisis" - she didnt have it tho. was a platelet issue) i dont do churches aint been in one at the time some 19 yrs - i went to a local church to light a candle for her - i thought the church was gonna collapse - the holy water sizzled when i stuck my fingers in it, and Jesus fell off the cross on the altar. |
faint User ID: 68695271 United States 05/22/2015 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can only speak from being married to a doctor who does spine cases all the time. What I am told is, once you do one fusion, you will eventually end up having to fuse the entire spine. When you fuse two vertebra it stresses the neighboring and its a chain reaction all the way up and down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69286966 The advice I give is only do a fusion procedure when you absolutely have to.... like you are shitting and pissing your pants everywhere you go because of neurological impact of a spinal condition. Else, try to tough it out for as long as you can. Oh and I should also say it's not all cases that end up this way, but many do. This is what happened to me. I have my C4/5 fused and now the disc below has herniated and hurts as bad as the one I had fused. My ortho just said, "Well, if we fuse that one, we'll just keep going down." Um, why didn't you tell me that before you did the C4/5?! My surgery wasn't anywhere as extensive as yours will be, but they DID go through my throat. I don't have a scar at all. I think I was in and out in 24 hours. maybe 48 but I was jacked up on percocet and this was 2009 so I am foggy on details. I was in a LOT of pain and had to wear a collar for about 3 weeks. The worst part was coming off the drugs before the surgery, I'd been on hydrocodone for pain for over a year and it was horrible. Way worse than the recovery itself. I had an 18 month old at the time of surgery and wasn't supposed to lift anything over 10lbs. HAR. That didn't quite work out but I healed...until the next disc herniated a few years later. I just suck it up and have tried neurontin for it but it makes me feel hammered, so I usually just go without unless it's unbearable. There are some essential oil blends that actually help to my surprise. I will never take narcotics for the pain again after my previous experience. I'll just deal with the pain. Best of luck to you dear, keep us updated. Glad to hear your physician is so attentive and looking out for you. Sounds like you have made wise choices and are in good hands. Formerly faint |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50595325 United States 05/22/2015 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1st op they took out 27 pieces of 4 vertabrae and 3 discs. Told I may never walk again after. "Just fuckin do it !!!" 2nd op they took out pieces they missed and staightened out the intense heat and numbness in both legs. It felt like I could light my cigs off off my foot, if I could lift it that high. 3rd op was a full fusion, 2 10" rods right down to my sacrum. They took bone from my right hip to lattice in the fusion. Full body brace for 3 months, walker for roughly 3 months and therapy 3 days weekly for 5 months. It was hard work but they were right about "working" through the pain. End results 3 years later...I went back to work in construction without pain. I can still touch my toes bending from the waist, stay on my feet all day and run. I'm 62 years old. The most important thing is attitude, if you see a free ride in the situation you won't even try to get better and be one of those who bitch and moan regardless of the care you recieved. I met a shitload of those in therapy, people who wouldn't even try. I'd let them cut me anytime, they've come a long way since '86. Good luck Phen, you seem like you have the attitude to breeze through it. |
Just Trina User ID: 68786261 United States 05/22/2015 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have an aunt and a sister who has had this particular surgery. My sister is even a Dr. And she had 8 weeks down time. Both are doing good. My aunt has to have another surgery because she doesn't like to listen to the Dr's instructions and has paid for it but the hardest thing will be NO type of bending of any kind and you MUST lay flat on your back for 8 weeks. That seemed to be the hardest part for both of them. My sister did have to buy a new mattress a cpl weeks after her surgery because she was having pain BUT...she did NOT take ANY pain pills at all due to having an allergic reaction to pain meds once and her throat swelled shut and the people she runs rescue with ( She's also a paramedic) had to rush her to the e.r. so she was able to cope with absolutely nothing for pain. I know it's much easier said than done to say " Don't worry" but these guys are ppro's and do this kind of surgery all the time. Forgot to mention my other aunt had it done too with the fusion and rods and pins now about 5 weeks after her surgery she had to go back into the e.r. because her large intestines started dying and ended up with a colostomy bag but I don't believe that was due to the surgery. Everyone will respond differently. Some better, some worse. Hopefully you will be one of the ones who do better with it but rest assured you will feel MUCH better after having it done. Wishing you all the best Phenn |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58781154 Canada 05/22/2015 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother had sciatica pain from February 2014 - January - 2015. She went to a lot of doctors. After many tests and much reading on the topic she decided to go with auricular acupuncture. I was with her when a very experienced doctor performed the procedure. Afterwards he gave her medicine called 'Ischialgin - Sciatica drops'. I know first hand the suffering a sciatica patient goes through. Due to the pain my mother would sometimes talk about cutting her leg off! She'd stay up night and day because of all that pain. Thank god it's fucking over. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1181409 United States 05/22/2015 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel for you Phenn. Triple fusion one at a time, L 4-5, L 3-4, L2-3. Was fused the spine has a wonderful way of weakening above the last fusion. As for pain , just got worse for me. But there are neuro stimulators, when they still work, that can relieve most of the pain. It is life changing at best and can ruin domestic bliss. I'll pray for you Phenn. |
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Citizenperth User ID: 66515138 Australia 05/22/2015 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ahhh... just knowing you, you didn't just put your back out did you?... no... phen had to go and do a multi-amazing-tripple-back-flip-with-a-half-fucking-pike on her back..... hope it all works out.. i miss our pre-post show ambles... ping me sometime :) It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69285827 United States 05/22/2015 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crushed and exploded my lower spine in '86. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50595325 1st op they took out 27 pieces of 4 vertabrae and 3 discs. Told I may never walk again after. "Just fuckin do it !!!" 2nd op they took out pieces they missed and staightened out the intense heat and numbness in both legs. It felt like I could light my cigs off off my foot, if I could lift it that high. 3rd op was a full fusion, 2 10" rods right down to my sacrum. They took bone from my right hip to lattice in the fusion. Full body brace for 3 months, walker for roughly 3 months and therapy 3 days weekly for 5 months. It was hard work but they were right about "working" through the pain. End results 3 years later...I went back to work in construction without pain. I can still touch my toes bending from the waist, stay on my feet all day and run. I'm 62 years old. The most important thing is attitude, if you see a free ride in the situation you won't even try to get better and be one of those who bitch and moan regardless of the care you recieved. I met a shitload of those in therapy, people who wouldn't even try. I'd let them cut me anytime, they've come a long way since '86. Good luck Phen, you seem like you have the attitude to breeze through it. I believe you are pain free because you had surgery immediately after some type of accident. People who have degenerative damage to their spine usually have some degree of pain mainly because of nerve damage. Nerves scar over and cause pain years after surgery. Basically your spine was repaired before serious damage was done to your nerve roots. Some people also experience pain differently. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69222945 United States 05/22/2015 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have nothing to say about the fusion, but I will say this: INVERSION TABLE!!!!!!! Please try it first! I have had sciatica and pinched nerves in my lower lumbar region for several years.....Im talking about prying myself up out of bed in the morning and pain 24/7. Using the inversion table for 10 minutes in the morning and ten minutes in the evening.....I am pain free! This is no joke! What I have found is if I sleep on my stomach, it starts pinching.....Being pain free makes me think I can sleep like that again and it will start flaring up.....But if I can keep on my back and sides all night, the inversion actually lasts without having to do it every day..... I dont know exactly what it does but it sure takes the pressure off the nerve. Around $100 shipped on Amazon prime.....check out the reviews, you'll see! |
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Citizenperth User ID: 66515138 Australia 05/22/2015 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | given the bizarre movie script phraseology in the op's question, i'd say this thread is a hoax, some sort of data mining Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68971290 op, you write like an idiot, although i'm sure you think you're being clever, no, that's why i say you should apply to s.n.l. as a comedy writer, they jumped the shark years ago and could use a hack like you then you have no idea what you're talking about. The Raw Feed Live was GLP finest Alternative News Show, and Phen was the hostess with mostess. She would eat you alive verbally for breakfast man. It was thanks to the medical issues she called it a day... so don't talk shit about something you know nothing about... let's hope your body stays glued together for as long as possible so you never know what she's talking about... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 05/22/2015 11:48 PM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58781154 Canada 05/22/2015 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | given the bizarre movie script phraseology in the op's question, i'd say this thread is a hoax, some sort of data mining Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68971290 op, you write like an idiot, although i'm sure you think you're being clever, no, that's why i say you should apply to s.n.l. as a comedy writer, they jumped the shark years ago and could use a hack like you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64492085 United States 05/22/2015 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | given the bizarre movie script phraseology in the op's question, i'd say this thread is a hoax, some sort of data mining Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68971290 op, you write like an idiot, although i'm sure you think you're being clever, no, that's why i say you should apply to s.n.l. as a comedy writer, they jumped the shark years ago and could use a hack like you then you have no idea what you're talking about. The Raw Feed Live was GLP finest Alternative News Show, and Phen was the hostess with mostess. She would eat you alive verbally for breakfast man. It was thanks to the medical issues she called it a day... so don't talk shit about something you know nothing about... let's hope your body stays glued together for as long as possible so you never know what she's talking about... :youreafag: |
Citizenperth User ID: 66515138 Australia 05/22/2015 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | given the bizarre movie script phraseology in the op's question, i'd say this thread is a hoax, some sort of data mining Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68971290 op, you write like an idiot, although i'm sure you think you're being clever, no, that's why i say you should apply to s.n.l. as a comedy writer, they jumped the shark years ago and could use a hack like you then you have no idea what you're talking about. The Raw Feed Live was GLP finest Alternative News Show, and Phen was the hostess with mostess. She would eat you alive verbally for breakfast man. It was thanks to the medical issues she called it a day... so don't talk shit about something you know nothing about... let's hope your body stays glued together for as long as possible so you never know what she's talking about... :youreafag: It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64492085 United States 05/22/2015 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | given the bizarre movie script phraseology in the op's question, i'd say this thread is a hoax, some sort of data mining Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68971290 op, you write like an idiot, although i'm sure you think you're being clever, no, that's why i say you should apply to s.n.l. as a comedy writer, they jumped the shark years ago and could use a hack like you then you have no idea what you're talking about. The Raw Feed Live was GLP finest Alternative News Show, and Phen was the hostess with mostess. She would eat you alive verbally for breakfast man. It was thanks to the medical issues she called it a day... so don't talk shit about something you know nothing about... let's hope your body stays glued together for as long as possible so you never know what she's talking about... :youreafag: :reta: :youreafag: |
Citizenperth User ID: 66515138 Australia 05/22/2015 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Citizenperth then you have no idea what you're talking about. The Raw Feed Live was GLP finest Alternative News Show, and Phen was the hostess with mostess. She would eat you alive verbally for breakfast man. It was thanks to the medical issues she called it a day... so don't talk shit about something you know nothing about... let's hope your body stays glued together for as long as possible so you never know what she's talking about... :youreafag: :youreafag: It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58781154 Canada 05/22/2015 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Citizenperth then you have no idea what you're talking about. The Raw Feed Live was GLP finest Alternative News Show, and Phen was the hostess with mostess. She would eat you alive verbally for breakfast man. It was thanks to the medical issues she called it a day... so don't talk shit about something you know nothing about... let's hope your body stays glued together for as long as possible so you never know what she's talking about... :youreafag: :reta: :youreafag: |