RE Spine surgery, neurospine injuries, tumors, degenerative disks, treatments holistic

I have nothing to say about the fusion, but I will say this: INVERSION TABLE!!!!!!! Please try it first!

I have had sciatica and pinched nerves in my lower lumbar region for several years.....Im talking about prying myself up out of bed in the morning and pain 24/7.

Using the inversion table for 10 minutes in the morning and ten minutes in the evening.....I am pain free! This is no joke!

What I have found is if I sleep on my stomach, it starts pinching.....Being pain free makes me think I can sleep like that again and it will start flaring up.....But if I can keep on my back and sides all night, the inversion actually lasts without having to do it every day.....

I dont know exactly what it does but it sure takes the pressure off the nerve.

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hey guys....i was hoping to be able to get some input from anyone who's gone thru a spinal fuse/pin/rod. if you know someone who had it, yourself - im interested in your story, what happened, your recovery time - issues if any, and how you are post-op

soon ill be "mooning" the surgical staff in the neurosciences wing of johns-hopkins.

they will have me nekkid wearin only one of them gowns, they will knock me out, flip me over this V shaped OR table and have a coke-bottle eyeglass view of my guinea ass.

ive been talkin to ppl who have had this - and id like to hear more experiences.

1. my mother broke her neck at the c2 - brain stem. craniocervical junction injuries are the deadliest. *HBG ortho's wanted to go in thru her throat and i got her ass to hopkins - fuck that. - the odontoid bone - IMOW, is like this penis shaped....T-unit..... that fractured. very dangerous break. she hadda be fused/pinned/rodded from c1 brain stem to the c3. ***expectation in hopkins was this 3-4 days in ICU, another 3-4 in pvt room. dr dude operated on her on a monday she was HOME thursday. he said she didnt bleed, she was healing so well he never anticipated that in an 82 yr old lady. she came home in one of the veterinarian dog collar cones (no joke lol)

the HBG drs said if they fused her thru her throat she wouldnt ever be able to function. she'd be totally stiff and to "see" couldnt move her head, she would have to pivot her body L + R.

hopkins man....you'd never know she broke her neck. shes out/about like it never happened, thank god yanno?

before you do the stadium cheer - mom cant do MRIs - when hopkins surgeon/wolinsky wanted one on her post op yanno to check her out, for her yr checkup... i think she had 1 or 3 image shots that took say, 5 minutes total - not each image but total time - she screamed bloody murder & they hadda shut it down

the metal in her neck heated up like a blacksmith making a horseshoe.

she has constant "clicking" post-op - she wont go back to hopkins to have him check her out. she did those few mri images and never kept the appt. **i know ive spoken to surgeon, ill get her there.

she has minimal pain - but he cut "the nerve" for her so that helped alot.

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a high school bud of mine rich "AZZ" had several fuse/pin/rods thru out his spine. in 2014 he posted pics his wife took (hilarious bc it was of his "back" view as the nurses had him tryn to walk w/a walker - and no joke - AZZ wasnt wearing undies, lol so we got an ass shot in the pic - but AZZ told me its painful as a SOB - and ill be down 6-8 weeks. bedridden. need help to the shitter, someone to wipe your ass.....

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my childhood BFF happens to live not far from me. her husband had it done in the same spot i am. he said the surgery went well, he can function, lay carpet, do cement work - but he said he couldnt walk w/o assistance for like 3 weeks - and didnt get cleared to go back to work for 6 weeks. (hes mgr of an autoparts store)

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my surgeon is a stuffed shirt. stellar rep. a rembrandt in my book.

he told me since mines a tad more involved - he has to remove a tumor at the L3, he had to "fix" the spinal fluid leak thats plumed onto both sides of the spine, and hes gonna check it out again (but my radiologist didnt pick it up on that dec mri - dr dude did they didnt even pick up on the tumor, he did) - but im supposed to have a buldge in the upper T3 & 4, and i forget what he said about the T12

* i did discuss with him cutting that fucking sciatica nerve - that shit man, leg numb but on "fire" 24/7 - CUT THE NERVE !!

this surgeon is all business - and i was warned that id be out of commission approx 6-8 weeks. *hes so all business that i had to provide "proof" of caretaker post-op. had to give their name/phone so his admin could talk to them about post-op care. *my daughter & son were elected. (BTW he did the same w/my mother - dad had his bud, the dudes a chiropractor) and of course i was there daily.

the drill...3-4 days in ICU and another 3-4 in a pvt room. *i hope i heal like my mom did so i can go home - i dont like doing "extended stays" in a hospital.

i mean he gave me the low down - ive read up on it/net, but that dont size up to personal experiences yanno?

if anyones got any history or stories to share about this kind of surgery - fire away....bc im really nervous about the downtime. i have to be able to get around. i do alotta shit and no one can do what i do, well bcuz im "me". whatever...

thanks folks - id appreciate any info you can or be willing to share.

Hi, I'm not sure if you're still reading these,

I used to study acupuncture & Chinese Medicine under probably the best acupuncturist in Australia, so by default I take a kind of ant-Western stance to my opinions about medicine.

I'm starting to wonder if I'm even writing in regard to what you are asking: you only want to ask about post op, recovery time ect? I can only imagine with the good things about Western medicine everything will turn out great! Plenty of nice pain killers lol.

As for the necessity of the surgery (which I'm thinking you might be asking about), that would depend on the severity of your condition, how "fucked" your back is. Sometimes a person has absolutely nothing to lose in these situations, but if you feel that you can manage for a while, long enough for your back to heal, then some good gentle exercising (and acupuncture from a GOOD acupuncturist, avoid chiropractors) then you should consider that option.

My only knowledge of these back surgeries comes from my neighbour & his mothers experience: he was offered this type of surgery over a decade ago, he didn't take that step, & his back has healed enough that he can live a somewhat normal life, his mother, however, had the surgery done, & she now walks like a penguin! If she hadn't have been able to walk at all at this stage, I guess she has taken the correct step (no pun intended, lol)

I hope this helps.

For my surgery, they cut me open from my groin to my shoulder blade, removed a rib, collapsed a lung pushed my heart and other organs aside and fused T-11 - L-3 using the rib as a graft. Then they stapled me back up.

I have 2 daughters who've had scoliosis surgery. My oldest was fused from T3 to L3, and the youngest from T3 to L4. Their recovery was fairly easy going, and they had a combination of stitches and glue to seal them back up. Out of the whole ordeal, they both found that the weirdest.

given the bizarre movie script phraseology in the op's question, i'd say this thread is a hoax, some sort of data mining

op, you write like an idiot, although i'm sure you think you're being clever, no, that's why i say you should apply to s.n.l. as a comedy writer, they jumped the shark years ago and could use a hack like you

Phen, I had spinal fusion of 3 discs in my neck. I had stenosis as well. I guess I was extremely fortunate and had an excellent surgeon because I woke up in less pain right away. Stay away from Hopkins. Find yourself a surgeon that works for a local sports team. Mine was the neurosurgeon for the Columbus Blue Jackets in Columbus, Ohio. His name was Dr. Berman.

I did have them enter through the front and I insisted on them using my own bone. I wouldn't let them use cadaver bone. Also, check into giving blood for yourself in case you need a transfusion. This has to be done well in advance. I didn't need mine. My scar is practically invisible. He went in through a natural wrinkle in my neck. Apart from a bit of hoarseness for about a week, I suffered no ill effects from it. It's actually a more complex surgery when they go in from the rear believe it or not.

I took 8 weeks to heal, but it was much easier than expected. My hip actually hurt more than my neck did, but even that wasn't too bad. I was walking normally after about ten days. I do have a titanium plate and 5 screws in my neck, but I have been virtually pain free for the first time in over 20 years. I also didn't need a brace. I wore a soft collar for a few days. I can actually move my head farther than I ever could. It was a miracle for me. I didn't need an mri after. A simple ex-ray showed I had fully healed. I haven't had further deterioration in any of my other vertebrae either. I was home after 24 hours.

Find a good, top notch surgeon. Don't use cadaver bone, even though it requires slight surgery on your hip and allow yourself plenty of time to heal. Don't rush your recovery.

I wish you the best and hope your experience is as good as mine was.

i sure miss your voice Phennommennonn on the GLPVC i still replay that last episode good luck and god bless

Phenn you should also get a second opinion from a good acupuncturist. It helps a lot of people with similar conditions.

Do you get any relief with the oxycodone? You might want to give the fentanyl patches a try. It's no worse than what you're already taking.

I know what you're dealing with. The most I can get from my pain doc is 90 hydrocodone tablets. They only work for 3 hours and it isn't enough to last all day. I'm 33 yo and they won't rx more. I have loads of MRI and ct scans, but they just won't budge.

I hope you have insurance because they will empty your family's bank account for a fusion surgery.

Fine I will add my two cents then.
Three surgeries l4,l5 s1 pinned and fused.
Faile two times changed to the most arrogant but gifted surgeon.
Your doctor better be gifted with his hands.
You better have all the neural work done and rechecked before surgery to verify your baselines.
You better have a 3 team doctor, one being the neural surgeon.
You must donate your own bone grafts.
You should try to have front and rear surgeries in one go if you can.
Positive attitude is a must some days will suck.

As for pain, it never really goes away.
I have more tolerance for activities not pain free.
Get off the Norco and fentanyl as fast as you can.
They just make the pain worse overall.(more sensitive)

The best pain med I have found in sixteen years is Mary Jane.
There it is, I hope you in a legal state.


Oh last thing, make sure to tell them to make sure you don't wake in transfer position.
The surgery room looks like some saw movie with all the restraining gear hanging on the walls.
Also don't see mad scientists workshop to the surgeon.
If you do you will see the smile and gleam in the eye from them.
Actually kinda scary because you lose consciousness about this time.

Well that my story well and make sure to keep calm when you awake everything is cool.

im listening to it now again its somthing special 2 me.

My results were immediate.

Had ruptured 3 disc in lower lumbar.

Talked to a great surgeon a to his advice

To basically team out the bone mass

That was pinching the nerves.

Afterwards I went to physical therapy

To strengthen my stomach muscles

To make up for the weakness in my

Back.

That was 8 years ago and I'm

Using better body mechanics to

Thrive.

Really glad I didn't have fusion

Or other intrusive surgery.

Please then dont deceive with the green karma in your avatar

hey guys....i was hoping to be able to get some input from anyone who's gone thru a spinal fuse/pin/rod. if you know someone who had it, yourself - im interested in your story, what happened, your recovery time - issues if any, and how you are post-op

soon ill be "mooning" the surgical staff in the neurosciences wing of johns-hopkins.

they will have me nekkid wearin only one of them gowns, they will knock me out, flip me over this V shaped OR table and have a coke-bottle eyeglass view of my guinea ass.

ive been talkin to ppl who have had this - and id like to hear more experiences.

1. my mother broke her neck at the c2 - brain stem. craniocervical junction injuries are the deadliest. *HBG ortho's wanted to go in thru her throat and i got her ass to hopkins - fuck that. - the odontoid bone - IMOW, is like this penis shaped....T-unit..... that fractured. very dangerous break. she hadda be fused/pinned/rodded from c1 brain stem to the c3. ***expectation in hopkins was this 3-4 days in ICU, another 3-4 in pvt room. dr dude operated on her on a monday she was HOME thursday. he said she didnt bleed, she was healing so well he never anticipated that in an 82 yr old lady. she came home in one of the veterinarian dog collar cones (no joke lol)

the HBG drs said if they fused her thru her throat she wouldnt ever be able to function. she'd be totally stiff and to "see" couldnt move her head, she would have to pivot her body L + R.

hopkins man....you'd never know she broke her neck. shes out/about like it never happened, thank god yanno?

before you do the stadium cheer - mom cant do MRIs - when hopkins surgeon/wolinsky wanted one on her post op yanno to check her out, for her yr checkup... i think she had 1 or 3 image shots that took say, 5 minutes total - not each image but total time - she screamed bloody murder & they hadda shut it down

the metal in her neck heated up like a blacksmith making a horseshoe.

she has constant "clicking" post-op - she wont go back to hopkins to have him check her out. she did those few mri images and never kept the appt. **i know ive spoken to surgeon, ill get her there.

she has minimal pain - but he cut "the nerve" for her so that helped alot.

__________________

a high school bud of mine rich "AZZ" had several fuse/pin/rods thru out his spine. in 2014 he posted pics his wife took (hilarious bc it was of his "back" view as the nurses had him tryn to walk w/a walker - and no joke - AZZ wasnt wearing undies, lol so we got an ass shot in the pic - but AZZ told me its painful as a SOB - and ill be down 6-8 weeks. bedridden. need help to the shitter, someone to wipe your ass.....

__________________

my childhood BFF happens to live not far from me. her husband had it done in the same spot i am. he said the surgery went well, he can function, lay carpet, do cement work - but he said he couldnt walk w/o assistance for like 3 weeks - and didnt get cleared to go back to work for 6 weeks. (hes mgr of an autoparts store)

__________________

my surgeon is a stuffed shirt. stellar rep. a rembrandt in my book.

he told me since mines a tad more involved - he has to remove a tumor at the L3, he had to "fix" the spinal fluid leak thats plumed onto both sides of the spine, and hes gonna check it out again (but my radiologist didnt pick it up on that dec mri - dr dude did they didnt even pick up on the tumor, he did) - but im supposed to have a buldge in the upper T3 & 4, and i forget what he said about the T12

* i did discuss with him cutting that fucking sciatica nerve - that shit man, leg numb but on "fire" 24/7 - CUT THE NERVE !!

this surgeon is all business - and i was warned that id be out of commission approx 6-8 weeks. *hes so all business that i had to provide "proof" of caretaker post-op. had to give their name/phone so his admin could talk to them about post-op care. *my daughter & son were elected. (BTW he did the same w/my mother - dad had his bud, the dudes a chiropractor) and of course i was there daily.

the drill...3-4 days in ICU and another 3-4 in a pvt room. *i hope i heal like my mom did so i can go home - i dont like doing "extended stays" in a hospital.

i mean he gave me the low down - ive read up on it/net, but that dont size up to personal experiences yanno?

if anyones got any history or stories to share about this kind of surgery - fire away....bc im really nervous about the downtime. i have to be able to get around. i do alotta shit and no one can do what i do, well bcuz im "me". whatever...

thanks folks - id appreciate any info you can or be willing to share.

For my surgery, they cut me open from my groin to my shoulder blade, removed a rib, collapsed a lung pushed my heart and other organs aside and fused T-11 - L-3 using the rib as a graft. Then they stapled me back up.

I have 2 daughters who've had scoliosis surgery. My oldest was fused from T3 to L3, and the youngest from T3 to L4. Their recovery was fairly easy going, and they had a combination of stitches and glue to seal them back up. Out of the whole ordeal, they both found that the weirdest.

Also you cant cut or ablate the sciatic nerve, unless you want to permanently lose function in your leg. Hopefully the surgeon told you this.

wow mr skin-flute, you think you got it all figgered out like ur some uberrrrrr menagerie of inspector clouseau.

youve been waitin for the clue bus so long they stapled a flyer to your chest.

im kinda surprised you found time to comment amidst your maelstrom of douchebaggery.

youre proof that evolution can go in reverse.

tah-tah

theres a nerve that he can cut to lose the pain.

hey guys....i was hoping to be able to get some input from anyone who's gone thru a spinal fuse/pin/rod. if you know someone who had it, yourself - im interested in your story, what happened, your recovery time - issues if any, and how you are post-op

soon ill be "mooning" the surgical staff in the neurosciences wing of johns-hopkins.

they will have me nekkid wearin only one of them gowns, they will knock me out, flip me over this V shaped OR table and have a coke-bottle eyeglass view of my guinea ass.

ive been talkin to ppl who have had this - and id like to hear more experiences.

1. my mother broke her neck at the c2 - brain stem. craniocervical junction injuries are the deadliest. *HBG ortho's wanted to go in thru her throat and i got her ass to hopkins - fuck that. - the odontoid bone - IMOW, is like this penis shaped....T-unit..... that fractured. very dangerous break. she hadda be fused/pinned/rodded from c1 brain stem to the c3. ***expectation in hopkins was this 3-4 days in ICU, another 3-4 in pvt room. dr dude operated on her on a monday she was HOME thursday. he said she didnt bleed, she was healing so well he never anticipated that in an 82 yr old lady. she came home in one of the veterinarian dog collar cones (no joke lol)

the HBG drs said if they fused her thru her throat she wouldnt ever be able to function. she'd be totally stiff and to "see" couldnt move her head, she would have to pivot her body L + R.

hopkins man....you'd never know she broke her neck. shes out/about like it never happened, thank god yanno?

before you do the stadium cheer - mom cant do MRIs - when hopkins surgeon/wolinsky wanted one on her post op yanno to check her out, for her yr checkup... i think she had 1 or 3 image shots that took say, 5 minutes total - not each image but total time - she screamed bloody murder & they hadda shut it down

the metal in her neck heated up like a blacksmith making a horseshoe.

she has constant "clicking" post-op - she wont go back to hopkins to have him check her out. she did those few mri images and never kept the appt. **i know ive spoken to surgeon, ill get her there.

she has minimal pain - but he cut "the nerve" for her so that helped alot.

__________________

a high school bud of mine rich "AZZ" had several fuse/pin/rods thru out his spine. in 2014 he posted pics his wife took (hilarious bc it was of his "back" view as the nurses had him tryn to walk w/a walker - and no joke - AZZ wasnt wearing undies, lol so we got an ass shot in the pic - but AZZ told me its painful as a SOB - and ill be down 6-8 weeks. bedridden. need help to the shitter, someone to wipe your ass.....

__________________

my childhood BFF happens to live not far from me. her husband had it done in the same spot i am. he said the surgery went well, he can function, lay carpet, do cement work - but he said he couldnt walk w/o assistance for like 3 weeks - and didnt get cleared to go back to work for 6 weeks. (hes mgr of an autoparts store)

__________________

my surgeon is a stuffed shirt. stellar rep. a rembrandt in my book.

he told me since mines a tad more involved - he has to remove a tumor at the L3, he had to "fix" the spinal fluid leak thats plumed onto both sides of the spine, and hes gonna check it out again (but my radiologist didnt pick it up on that dec mri - dr dude did they didnt even pick up on the tumor, he did) - but im supposed to have a buldge in the upper T3 & 4, and i forget what he said about the T12

* i did discuss with him cutting that fucking sciatica nerve - that shit man, leg numb but on "fire" 24/7 - CUT THE NERVE !!

this surgeon is all business - and i was warned that id be out of commission approx 6-8 weeks. *hes so all business that i had to provide "proof" of caretaker post-op. had to give their name/phone so his admin could talk to them about post-op care. *my daughter & son were elected. (BTW he did the same w/my mother - dad had his bud, the dudes a chiropractor) and of course i was there daily.

the drill...3-4 days in ICU and another 3-4 in a pvt room. *i hope i heal like my mom did so i can go home - i dont like doing "extended stays" in a hospital.

i mean he gave me the low down - ive read up on it/net, but that dont size up to personal experiences yanno?

if anyones got any history or stories to share about this kind of surgery - fire away....bc im really nervous about the downtime. i have to be able to get around. i do alotta shit and no one can do what i do, well bcuz im "me". whatever...

thanks folks - id appreciate any info you can or be willing to share.