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Why Do Christians Believe The Bible To Be Literal?

 
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Some parts are literal.

Some parts are not.


Do you really seek only to justify your unbelief to yourself?

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When it says Jesus went up to Jerusalem, that is literal.

When it says God wishes to shelter them like a hen and her chicks, it does not mean God has feathers.

What seems to be your problem here?

Do you say everything is supposed to be all literal or all figurative or metaphorical, one or the other only?


This is just something you thought was a good excuse

for you to try to convince yourself

that you are justified in rejecting God.

You are not. You will not be. You cannot be.

Denying God is futility and insanity, ultimately...

Start thinking for yourself.

Open your heart, soul and mind to God

instead of shaking your puny fist.
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When it says Jesus went up to Jerusalem, that is literal.

When it says God wishes to shelter them like a hen and her chicks, it does not mean God has feathers.

What seems to be your problem here?

Do you say everything is supposed to be all literal or all figurative or metaphorical, one or the other only?


This is just something you thought was a good excuse

for you to try to convince yourself

that you are justified in rejecting God.

You are not. You will not be. You cannot be.

Denying God is futility and insanity, ultimately...

Start thinking for yourself.

Open your heart, soul and mind to God

instead of shaking your puny fist.
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I am saying that the bible can only be taken one way or the other. It is an allegory or it is ALL literal. You can't have it both ways. If it is all literal. then where are the talking snakes? Where are the faith healers? Where are the ones stopping all natural disasters? I do not deny Creator Source, I deny that there ever was a real Horus, I mean Jesus.
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Re: Why Do Christians Believe The Bible To Be Literal?
False statement.

Some groups of christians do.

Others don't.


Generalizing about this is childish and it conceals a hidden trolling agenda.

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1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

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Hmm, I clicked a few of those links and I saw no contradictions. You atheists are worse than Christians. Both of you think you know everything, and know nothing.
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Re: Why Do Christians Believe The Bible To Be Literal?
When it says Jesus went up to Jerusalem, that is literal.

When it says God wishes to shelter them like a hen and her chicks, it does not mean God has feathers.

What seems to be your problem here?

Do you say everything is supposed to be all literal or all figurative or metaphorical, one or the other only?


This is just something you thought was a good excuse

for you to try to convince yourself

that you are justified in rejecting God.

You are not. You will not be. You cannot be.

Denying God is futility and insanity, ultimately...

Start thinking for yourself.

Open your heart, soul and mind to God

instead of shaking your puny fist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57370606


I am saying that the bible can only be taken one way or the other. It is an allegory or it is ALL literal. You can't have it both ways. If it is all literal. then where are the talking snakes? Where are the faith healers? Where are the ones stopping all natural disasters? I do not deny Creator Source, I deny that there ever was a real Horus, I mean Jesus.
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Shake your puny fist.

Ingrate.
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Christians are desperate to believe this because they want to live forever.
Besides, if they did not completely believe the Bible was
the inerrant word of god, they couldn't bear other people over the head with it
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More fundamentally, they KEEP believing it DESPITE the IDIOCY, because they are SCARED to burn in hell with the devil FOREVER. lmao
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There are no contradictions in the bible.

Your assertions are invalid.

Why does the bible and Christianity weigh so heavily on your heart?

Why would you waste your time attacking people you disagree with?

Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

Seems to me that there is a major struggle going on inside you between what your heart knows is true and what your sin nature wants to hold on to.

Maybe instead of throwing barbs on Internet forums you should start doing some soul searching.

Or better yet, dust off that bible and start studying for yourself.

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Christians are desperate to believe this because they want to live forever.
Besides, if they did not completely believe the Bible was
the inerrant word of god, they couldn't bear other people over the head with it
 Quoting: bvndy


More fundamentally, they KEEP believing it DESPITE the IDIOCY, because they are SCARED to burn in hell with the devil FOREVER. lmao
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You are. You will.
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How can you even begin to take something so serious without even asking your preacher why the Bible has at least 495 contradictions? If you read at least a few of these with an open mind, you should start to question things. That is, if you have a brain. I know I would have a hard time believing something so messed up. I never believe something just because the preacher said so.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]
 Quoting: Thoth 68169782


Why do people keep asking stupid f-ing questions with obvious answers in an attempt to shill? You obviously have Internet access, use it... A little research goes along way... If you take my advice you'll learn not "all" Christians act alike nor do they take the bible literally. For example, from my research I've learned not all atheists are douchebags like you.

jerkit
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How can you even begin to take something so serious without even asking your preacher why the Bible has at least 495 contradictions? If you read at least a few of these with an open mind, you should start to question things. That is, if you have a brain. I know I would have a hard time believing something so messed up. I never believe something just because the preacher said so.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]
 Quoting: Thoth 68169782


Why do people keep asking stupid f-ing questions with obvious answers in an attempt to shill? You obviously have Internet access, use it... A little research goes along way... If you take my advice you'll learn not "all" Christians act alike nor do they take the bible literally. For example, from my research I've learned not all atheists are douchebags like you.

jerkit
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Anyone who gives two fucks about the idiot pile of shit bible and the ridiculous manic psychotic freak worldview it espouses is a dick.
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Re: Why Do Christians Believe The Bible To Be Literal?
Welcome aboard BeeBee. As with any post I do, I only bring out the negative Christians. Not one single one of them have even contemplated trying to answer my question. I know why too....they were told to JUST believe and do not question, because grand-dad and grand-ma believed, and they said it was true. It's not their fault though, they believe as they are brain washed since birth. They most likely still, send their kids to the public fool system and vaccinate them against the nasty little germs. That's another topic for another time.

If I new absolutely nothing about the Bible, but I read a verse that told me "these things are an allegory", I would say, wait a minute, that's not what the preacher said! He said the bible is literal. This is the problem I have run into since proclaiming that the Bible is astrological.

I challenge any Christian to at least ask their preacher why some parts are taking literally and some are not? I already know the answer, because I was told the same thing...."that's the way God wanted it", so everyone would not understand. Wow! How damn unfair and selfish is that? Only the people who think they understand the word of Horus, I mean Jesus will make it into the kingdom of Heaven.

The Bible, if taken literal is so unfair, God is not going to allow children, paraplegics and people who never heard or understood his word to make it. The verse that supports this, which the Christians ignore is, You have to accept Jesus to be saved...hmmm...How does one do that, when they are mentally retarded? No one can enter the kingdom, unless he comes through Christ. It's not automatic. I guess there are a lot of people screwed. BTW, there is no forgiveness or allowance. I know this because I have read your astrology book. That is, unless you think that part is an allegory LOL!
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What are we supposed to do without a God to save us?

Were Damned if we Do! And Damned if we don't!

damned damned



Last Edited by Deplorable KC_Goldshine on 05/25/2015 10:50 PM
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"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." - Thomas Jefferson

"Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin

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rubbish!

many Christians are former pagans and hipster hippies, etc….....

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Also FIXED!

Many pagans and hipster hippies are former Christians.

Just so you know! hi
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What are we supposed to do without a God to save us?

Were Damned if we Do! And Damned if we don't!

damned damned


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DON'T be an idiot, and ONLY an idiot believes that shit.
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How can you even begin to take something so serious without even asking your preacher why the Bible has at least 495 contradictions? If you read at least a few of these with an open mind, you should start to question things. That is, if you have a brain. I know I would have a hard time believing something so messed up. I never believe something just because the preacher said so.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]
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My experiences are that only the messed up, culty types take it literal. The rest take it as a guide - stories that speak to you in guidance so that you know what you need to work on in life. Kind of like when you go to Sunday service only one Sunday a year, but somehow every verse quoted & everything the Pastor says makes you feel guilty about the way you've been living your life... smile_hear
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There are no contradictions in the bible.

Your assertions are invalid.

Why does the bible and Christianity weigh so heavily on your heart?

Why would you waste your time attacking people you disagree with?

Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

Seems to me that there is a major struggle going on inside you between what your heart knows is true and what your sin nature wants to hold on to.

Maybe instead of throwing barbs on Internet forums you should start doing some soul searching.

Or better yet, dust off that bible and start studying for yourself.
 Quoting: Idgy


You are completely FULL OF stir too!

There are hundreds if not THOUSANDS of CONTRADICTIONS, ABSURDITIES, ERRORS and even OUTRIGHT LIES in the bible.


Last Edited by Deplorable KC_Goldshine on 05/25/2015 10:53 PM
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"Know guns, no crime. No guns, know crime." - Ralph Lauretano

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms" - Thomas Jefferson

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." - Thomas Jefferson

"Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Said to be Voltaire, but really - Unknown
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Matthew 5:17-20 17

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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And...No explanation. As usual.
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See... That's your problem. You are unable to read plain English.
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What are we supposed to do without a God to save us?

Were Damned if we Do! And Damned if we don't!

damned damned


 Quoting: Lord_Kayle


DON'T be an idiot, and ONLY an idiot believes that shit.
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In the future, you are going to feel really silly.
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There are no contradictions in the bible.

Your assertions are invalid.

Why does the bible and Christianity weigh so heavily on your heart?

Why would you waste your time attacking people you disagree with?

Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

Seems to me that there is a major struggle going on inside you between what your heart knows is true and what your sin nature wants to hold on to.

Maybe instead of throwing barbs on Internet forums you should start doing some soul searching.

Or better yet, dust off that bible and start studying for yourself.
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HAHAHAHA go to Theology School for several years and you will take back what you said.

Go ahead.

DO IT!
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How can you even begin to take something so serious without even asking your preacher why the Bible has at least 495 contradictions? If you read at least a few of these with an open mind, you should start to question things. That is, if you have a brain. I know I would have a hard time believing something so messed up. I never believe something just because the preacher said so.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]
 Quoting: Thoth 68169782



My experiences are that only the messed up, culty types take it literal. The rest take it as a guide - stories that speak to you in guidance so that you know what you need to work on in life. Kind of like when you go to Sunday service only one Sunday a year, but somehow every verse quoted & everything the Pastor says makes you feel guilty about the way you've been living your life... smile_hear
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Adding on cuz I wasn't logged in...I guess every church I've been to is "moderate". They were pushing to learn, to question, to grow, to let our children choose their own way and to love and accept everyone even if they didn't live how "the Bible said". Maybe I was lucky to not have the negative experiences...and to be honest it's all the overly judgmental assholes that hide under the cloak of Christianty and use it as an excuse to judge others that pushed me away..."Jesus will forgive me AFTER the fact"...maybe if you just live a decent life you don't have to worry? I went to a Jewish Bat Mitzvah a while ago - it stuck with me and changed me. Jesus wasn't Christian...so fuck off. Jerks.
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Welcome aboard BeeBee. As with any post I do, I only bring out the negative Christians. Not one single one of them have even contemplated trying to answer my question. I know why too....they were told to JUST believe and do not question, because grand-dad and grand-ma believed, and they said it was true. It's not their fault though, they believe as they are brain washed since birth. They most likely still, send their kids to the public fool system and vaccinate them against the nasty little germs. That's another topic for another time.

If I new absolutely nothing about the Bible, but I read a verse that told me "these things are an allegory", I would say, wait a minute, that's not what the preacher said! He said the bible is literal. This is the problem I have run into since proclaiming that the Bible is astrological.

I challenge any Christian to at least ask their preacher why some parts are taking literally and some are not? I already know the answer, because I was told the same thing...."that's the way God wanted it", so everyone would not understand. Wow! How damn unfair and selfish is that? Only the people who think they understand the word of Horus, I mean Jesus will make it into the kingdom of Heaven.

The Bible, if taken literal is so unfair, God is not going to allow children, paraplegics and people who never heard or understood his word to make it. The verse that supports this, which the Christians ignore is, You have to accept Jesus to be saved...hmmm...How does one do that, when they are mentally retarded? No one can enter the kingdom, unless he comes through Christ. It's not automatic. I guess there are a lot of people screwed. BTW, there is no forgiveness or allowance. I know this because I have read your astrology book. That is, unless you think that part is an allegory LOL!
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I answered!!hf
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There are no contradictions in the bible.


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I don't think you are awake either, you still fall for the divide and conquer game, in politics, in race and other topics. When you are awake you see how the different groups are being played off against each other.
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Believing there's a divide conquer game is also a belief. You might think or believe your belief is fact. But it's a belief based on your rationale that you think is factual.

When you are awake you see most people are asleep (dead spiritually) as in "let the dead bury the dead" (Mat 8:22). Different groups "being played" against each others is just your conspiracy based belief or speculation which you adopted as fact or truth. Even when you kill off all the so called elites, dead people will still fight against each others, because that's the nature of being dead spiritually.

You conspiracy theorists are no different from Christians who hold plenty of blind beliefs as truth, truth only in your imagination.
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How can you even begin to take something so serious without even asking your preacher why the Bible has at least 495 contradictions? If you read at least a few of these with an open mind, you should start to question things. That is, if you have a brain. I know I would have a hard time believing something so messed up. I never believe something just because the preacher said so.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]
 Quoting: Thoth 68169782


Why do people keep asking stupid f-ing questions with obvious answers in an attempt to shill? You obviously have Internet access, use it... A little research goes along way... If you take my advice you'll learn not "all" Christians act alike nor do they take the bible literally. For example, from my research I've learned not all atheists are douchebags like you.

jerkit
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And I have learned that not everyone reads all posts,like you. If you had read my posts, you would know that I am not an atheist. Please see above posts for more intelligent info.
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How can you even begin to take something so serious without even asking your preacher why the Bible has at least 495 contradictions? If you read at least a few of these with an open mind, you should start to question things. That is, if you have a brain. I know I would have a hard time believing something so messed up. I never believe something just because the preacher said so.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]
 Quoting: Thoth 68169782


Let me guess atheist?

Because it is makes more sense than those so called scientific revelations.
I think science will eventually catch up to truth already laid out in the bible.

Why should I bother waiting for science, when I can believe the truth right now?
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OP has a sad case of Bible-rage, fueled by the lingering butthurt of not getting a pony for their 8th birthday.

I'm sorry op, maybe if you're good, you'll get that pony someday..
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Christians are desperate to believe this because they want to live forever.
Besides, if they did not completely believe the Bible was
the inerrant word of god, they couldn't bear other people over the head with it
 Quoting: bvndy


More fundamentally, they KEEP believing it DESPITE the IDIOCY, because they are SCARED to burn in hell with the devil FOREVER. lmao
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BINGO!! We have a winner.

After seeing countless posts from the christians on this forum, they are only believers because they are looking out for their own back sides. They have no inherent goodness or empathy for anyone who disagrees with them.

They are mean-spirited and you can sense that they get off on announcing that all those who don't believe the word of their God will be condemned to everlasting torture and revel in their smugness in their delusion that they will live in eternal bliss.

They have backed themselves into a corner and now have to hedge their bets just in case they end up in hell.

They condemn atheists and agnostics for having no morals, but atheists and agnostics, when they do good things, they do them because they care about others and are good people. The christians on this forum only do good things because they think it will buy them a place in heaven, not because they are good people.
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The bible is mythology mastierpiece about the human brain and astrology
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Oh how the Christians will weep and cry when announcements are made about how religion is slavery and the Jesus persona was invented as a subjugation tool to keep the populace in line. The sheeple are raised to not be free thinkers and only follow the system that was created for them. No questions please. Just work, pay taxes and die.
 Quoting: Thoth 68169782


It amazes me how people like this always think the institution=bible. I cant imagine hating something so much without having done any research. The bible teaches the opposite of following your government and other men. Enjoy your lies though.





GLP