I want to start a Christian church for LGBT members only.

So you want to shut out and exclude straight people?

Seems bigoted.

Brief sign in.

OP read Romans Chapter 1

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OP no one is born a Christian, you may have been born into a Christian family but you were not born christian

The Episcopalians and Lutherans (ELCA) are really good about inclusiveness.

Yayyyy....someone gets it. Yes, you were not born gay, you chose to be gay...so F U !!!!

I will let the straights in as long as they are not haters.

Repent...the end is near.

Mocking God will surely get you Eternal hell.

We had enough of freaks for a long time!


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Last Edited by CE1 on 06/07/2015 09:06 AM

lots of Christians are gay. There is no problem it is just that if you are not in a legal marriage you can't have sex.
Just like unmarried people - no discrimination. Lots of Roman Catholic priests were gay and chose the church and to live a celibate life.
There is no problem, Jesus loves us all. He loves thieves too but asks them to stop stealing.
I love all people. I will pray for you.
Even if you set up your exclusive church, would you be happy?

Sorry but that's impossible. Christians follow the teachings of Christ which clearly state that homosexuality is an abomination.

You may be able to fool yourselves and others but you'll never fool God!

that's a Queer idea.

queer/kwir/
adjective
strange; odd.

We all sin.

We all take offence to being called a sinner.

Doing silly things, irresponsible things that may not be deemed evil of have a negative impact on others is still a sin.

We pleasure ourselves due to riding the beast. Your soul has no glandular chemical driven passion or desire for sexual pleasure, for getting high, for things that make the beast feel good from the chemicals released, etc

Put it back in your pants. You can love all people equally and want to connect with them all. Sex nor love in our world have no spiritual meaning.

Ever see the move Cocoon, where they just join in light not sex and truly feel and know each other?

It's not just good feelings that overwhelms the spirit, when your totally enraged, are you you?

When your finish crying do you soon after wonder or even feel silly about why you cried so intensely?


If you want to really approach Christ in a full way, put it away and focus on yourself, on chrism, on the path you have been given, etc without the beast in all aspects.

I hope i'm getting through here to you.

Man outs you, or separates you in Christ.

Christ loves all equal.

Methodists marry divorced people.

There have always been new churches starting up.

Christianity is not about starting churches.
It's about walking the walk.
By yourself if you have to.
Nowhere did Jesus direct to start churches.
Building churches is not the point.

Jesus said Love One Another.
God said being gay is an abomination.

What to do....
Tough call?

I'd love to see how you're gonna explain Leviticus to your congregation.

No one is ever born a Christian you become a Christan, and no one is ever born gay, you become gay.

It's all about free will...

God never made you this way your choices have.

God love the sinner but hates the sin.

It becomes incumbent upon you to cite where Jesus made any mention of it at all.
It he didn't say it, it isnt Christian.

I'm not supporting it, but Jesus's directives were far broader than gay or not gay.

Matthew 5 17

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Why you need a church ?

It's an idea without a long term prospect. The Shakers chose to not reproduce and the only thing left of them is some furniture.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman.

It is an abomination."

(Leviticus 18:22)



"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman,

both of them have committed an abomination.

They shall surely be put to death.

Their blood shall be upon them."

(Leviticus 20:13)



“A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man,

nor shall a man put on a woman's garment,

for all who do so are an abomination to the LORD your God."

(Deuteronomy 22:5)



"Do you not know that the unrighteous

will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God"

Do not be deceived.

Neither fornicators, ...

nor adulterers,

nor homosexuals,

nor sodomites,

nor thieves, ...

will inherit the Kingdom of God.

And such were some of you. ('Repent' means 'stop' and return to God and His Word)

But you were washed (through the innocent blood of Jesus which was shed for our sins)

But you were sanctified (means "set apart" ... all who will believe in Jesus are "set apart")

But you were justified (justified means "just as if it had never happened ...")

in the Name of the Lord Jesus

and by the Spirit of our God."

(1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

And God warns all those who simply "approve of" these things . . .



"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven

against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men . . .

For even their women exchanged the natural use

for what is against nature (lesbianism).

Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,

burning in their lust for one another,

men with men committing what is shameful (homosexuality) . . .

that those who practice these things are worthy of death (Hell),

and not only those who do the same

but also those who approve of those who practice them!"

(Romans 1:18, 26, 27, 32)

The Bible is not ambiguous in its message concerning homosexuality. Homosexuality is not new. God never calls for capital punishment, or calls anything "profane" or an "abomination" if it is simply "genetic." When we study the passages concerning Sodom and Gomorrah, it appears homosexuality, or sodomy, is symptomatic of a people who have willfully rejected and defiantly mock God’s laws in order to do "that which is right in their own eyes." Sodom and Gomorrah were given as warnings . . .



"As Sodom and Gomorrah,

and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, (a total of 5 cities were destroyed)

having given themselves over to sexual immorality

and gone after strange flesh, (homosexuality)

are set forth as an example,

suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

(Jude 1:7)



"And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes,

condemned them (Sodom and Gomorrah) to destruction,

making them an example

to those who afterward would live ungodly ..."

(2 Peter 2:6)





Who Loves the Homosexual More?

The Christian (a follower of Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel) is commanded to "love others" and treat them as we would want to be treated. According to the Bible, a person living in homosexual sin "will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven" and those who "approve of those who do such things" will be held just as guilty. In the Bible, we find Jesus Christ's first command was to "repent" (turn away from those things which are in opposition to God's Law) and then to trust in Him alone to save us from all our sins. He said He came to "save sinners" ... lots of them ... both Jew and Gentile ... any who would believe and trust in Him. The Bible warns until we acknowledge we are sinners and we desperately need a Savior (to save us from our sins ... past, present, and future) we won't be saved from Hell . . .



So, who loves the homosexual more? One who tells them it's okay to continue in a sin the Bible warns will condemn them to an eternity in Hell ... or someone who is willing to endure the anger, ridicule, and hate to warn them and to try to get them into Heaven as a neighbor and as a friend? In Proverbs 27:6 God says, "Faithful are the wounds of a friend ... but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful." Jesus (Yeshua) said more about Hell than He did about Heaven ... and the true believing Christian will try to get as many boys, girls, men, and women into the Kingdom of Heaven as possible. If a Christian truly hated the homosexual (or anyone willfully sinning against God's law) they would simply keep silent and let them suffer in the eternal darkness, loneliness, and torment of Hell. Yet, all believing Christians have had to come face-to-face with the fact we are all sinners and desperately need a 'Savior' to save us from our sins and from Hell. Jesus Christ (Yeshua Ha'Mashiach in Hebrew) commands us to 'love our enemies' ... and you can't love someone without warning them when they are in great and grave danger.



It is false doctrine in direct opposition to God's Word that teaches God's "love" approves of or accepts homosexuality. The Bible clearly says homosexuality-lesbianism is sin. Jesus said He came to save sinners ... Jesus suffered and died for all sinners. And we are all sinners. God hates sin because He knows the terrible consequences ...



The Bible warns anybody who "defends" or "approves of" or "promotes" or "protects" this sin (or any sin) has openly declared themselves to be an enemy of God by trying to block His loving and gracious efforts to reach out and save them. That is why He pleads with all to repent (turn away) from doing those things that are against His laws, His statutes, and His rules ... and with tears of joy and with the open arms of a loving Father He will richly forgive and welcome all back who return to Him.