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OptimisticallyPessimistic User ID: 26400904 United States 06/11/2015 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What absolute horse shit. At 11 that kid was more than capable of watching himself in his own yard for 90 minutes. And if the nosy neighbor was so concerned why didn't they offer to let the boy come play in their yard where they could supervise until the parents came home and they voiced their concerns? Quoting: ItsAllOneBigLie The person who lived next door, I hate to use the word neighbor, because I like to think of neighbors as extensions to my community, and I like to view them in a positive light. It is not always easy. The people that placed that call did not do so for the benefit of the child. They used the child as a pawn in a vicious, vindictive act, to get back at the parents or the children. Twice in the last two years, I had to take on the financial responsibility for the repair of vandalism done to my home. Destruction done by a group of young boys ages six to nine. Partly done out of curiosity and partly done an a dare. When I found which children were involved, I felt worse for what the children had to endure from their rude, ignorant, classless parents, and even worse when talking with the police. The children were lost in a cesspool of a system that saw them as worthless with no hope, and left with little chance of a productive future, under the care of people that did not want the responsibility and lacked the commitment to be parents. It was easier for me to work overtime to pay off the $35,000.00 loan for the repairs, than to allow those children to suffer the consequences, if I had proceeded with legal action. It was, and still is not, an easy choice. I still become angry when I think about the unfairness of the whole situation. I sometimes feel like I should have made the parents pay, but I keep reminding myself that even if I had proceeded with the law suit, I would never have received a dime, and the children would have been the ones that would have suffered the most. The lessons they would have learned at age six to nine, were not the lessons that would have made them better men, and I did not want to live with the knowledge that by opening that box, it would only end with a closed lid and a missing key. I am sure there is a lot that is not being told in this story, and I am sure that there are no truly innocent parties involved, and in the end the only ones that truly suffer are the children. |
Sobriquet™ User ID: 67536071 United States 06/11/2015 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It costs like $9.99 for a 'rock shaped hide a key'. I think the parents are the dummies. How does a kid not have a key to get into the house? Quoting: deanoZXT if you have a little bit creativity, u can hide a key everywhere. No need for such money wasting things like rock shaped key hides. How does a kid not have a key to get into the house? ITS A KID! Even i, grown man, forget or lose sometimes some things! do we really need to talk about? The question is not how a kid can have no key. The question is: Where the fuck did we go if people call the police because the neighbourkid plays 90 minutes basketball in the yard. WHY SHOULD ANYONE CALL THE POLICE?? GO and waste you money for stone shaped shit, and hide your kids in the basement. Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69482529 United States 06/11/2015 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cannot leave under 12 year old alone for long. It's the law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65097746 There must get bad blood between the neighbors, bc growing up if that happened to me a neighbor wled hv been called by my parents to help. There are always more sides to the story. Could have been a habitual thing. Not the law in Florida |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69198736 United States 06/11/2015 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOOD! I have young girls, and they are never out of me or my wife's eyesight. There are just too many kids being grabbed by child predators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45509658 I know when I was a kid (in the 1980s) hundreds of thousands of kids were abducted each and every year in the USA. It may not be as bad now, but it's still very bad. Keep your kid's within arms' reach folks ... 100s of thousands go missing every year.most are runaways or taken by a non custodial relative.less than 200 are abducted by strangers, statistically your child is way safer with a stranger than family or friends |
Phillip J. Fry User ID: 69406094 United States 06/11/2015 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was 11 I was Hot-Wiring construction trucks. Rut-roe! CPS Ya missed Me! Ha-Ha! . "Don't do anything that affects anything. Unless it turns out you were supposed to do it, in which case for the love of God. Don't not do it!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69482392 United States 06/11/2015 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69482294 A large percentage of the propagandists or "shills" on GLP are moral degenerates and/or drug users . These people are chosen because they fit the agenda and are controllable Oh I see... and you can back this up with proof? No... you can't. :gtfo: Well, look at you. You know what you are. Whether I can prove it or not is irrelevant, isn't it? Maybe I'm reading into it, but you A)seem to be very defensive of shills and propagandists, and B), if taken at face value your response seems to indicate you realize you're a shill. Also, most of us realize that a "psychiatric diagnosis" is an attempt to discredit someone who is telling an awkward truth about you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69482392 United States 06/11/2015 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOOD! I have young girls, and they are never out of me or my wife's eyesight. There are just too many kids being grabbed by child predators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45509658 I know when I was a kid (in the 1980s) hundreds of thousands of kids were abducted each and every year in the USA. It may not be as bad now, but it's still very bad. Keep your kid's within arms' reach folks ... 100s of thousands go missing every year.most are runaways or taken by a non custodial relative.less than 200 are abducted by strangers, statistically your child is way safer with a stranger than family or friends Very true, the predator /stranger danger bullshit was done just to scare people and get kids inside interfacing with the moral rot and programing instead of out learning and exploring. 95% of molestation and abuse is done by family members and persons placed in trust of kids. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45815858 Australia 06/11/2015 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wether you know it or not.. in the legal courtsystem. your kids are your property. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46124531 United States 06/11/2015 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One afternoon this past April, a Florida mom and dad I'll call Cindy and Fred could not get home in time to let their 11-year-old son into the house. The boy didn't have a key, so he played basketball in the yard. He was alone for 90 minutes. A neighbor called the cops, and when the parents arrived—having been delayed by traffic and rain—they were arrested for negligence. Quoting: 411 They were put in handcuffs, strip searched, fingerprinted, and held overnight in jail. It would be a month before their sons—the 11-year-old and his 4-year-old brother—were allowed home again. Only after the eldest spoke up and begged a judge to give him back to his parents did the situation improve. I spoke with Cindy about her family’s horrible ordeal. "My older one was the so-called 'victim,'" she said during a phone interview. But since she and her husband were charged with felony neglect, the younger boy had to be removed from the home, too. Here is the law: "A person who willfully or by culpable negligence neglects a child without causing great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the child commits a felony of the third degree." I first heard of Cindy's case last week when she wrote to me at Free-Range Kids. Her email explained: The authorities claim he had no access to water or shelter. We have an open shed in the back yard and 2 working sinks and 2 hoses. They said he had no food. He ate his snacks already. He had no bathroom, but the responding officer found our yard good enough to relieve himself in while our son sat in a police car alone. In his own yard, in a state, Florida, that has no minimum age for children to be alone. The children were placed in foster care for two days while the state ran a background check on a relative who was willing to take them in. "Our first choice was my mother," said Cindy. "But she lives in another state and so the kids would have been in foster care even longer until they cleared her." The parents decided to have them placed with a slightly problematic in-state relative instead. On the day they all appeared in children's court to move the kids from foster care into the relative's custody, Cindy thought her older son smelled a little strange. "What have you been eating?" she asked. MORE.... [link to reason.com (secure)] That's why I will never have kids....not this generation....one less headache to deal with.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69482392 United States 06/11/2015 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What absolute horse shit. At 11 that kid was more than capable of watching himself in his own yard for 90 minutes. And if the nosy neighbor was so concerned why didn't they offer to let the boy come play in their yard where they could supervise until the parents came home and they voiced their concerns? Quoting: ItsAllOneBigLie The person who lived next door, I hate to use the word neighbor, because I like to think of neighbors as extensions to my community, and I like to view them in a positive light. It is not always easy. The people that placed that call did not do so for the benefit of the child. They used the child as a pawn in a vicious, vindictive act, to get back at the parents or the children. Twice in the last two years, I had to take on the financial responsibility for the repair of vandalism done to my home. Destruction done by a group of young boys ages six to nine. Partly done out of curiosity and partly done an a dare. When I found which children were involved, I felt worse for what the children had to endure from their rude, ignorant, classless parents, and even worse when talking with the police. The children were lost in a cesspool of a system that saw them as worthless with no hope, and left with little chance of a productive future, under the care of people that did not want the responsibility and lacked the commitment to be parents. It was easier for me to work overtime to pay off the $35,000.00 loan for the repairs, than to allow those children to suffer the consequences, if I had proceeded with legal action. It was, and still is not, an easy choice. I still become angry when I think about the unfairness of the whole situation. I sometimes feel like I should have made the parents pay, but I keep reminding myself that even if I had proceeded with the law suit, I would never have received a dime, and the children would have been the ones that would have suffered the most. The lessons they would have learned at age six to nine, were not the lessons that would have made them better men, and I did not want to live with the knowledge that by opening that box, it would only end with a closed lid and a missing key. I am sure there is a lot that is not being told in this story, and I am sure that there are no truly innocent parties involved, and in the end the only ones that truly suffer are the children. A kid that does 35,000 dollars worth of damage needs to suffer. I'd have told the parents if you let me whip their ass with a strap and make them my yard slaves for the next 5 years, I'll drop the charges, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69482392 United States 06/11/2015 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neighbor needs his ass kicked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14291635 CPS is not a place for children, it should always be considered a last resort. Once CPS gets involved, all forms of abuse become much more likely, as does suicide, drug use and juvenile delinquency. Death is 6 times as likely. Most kids in foster care end up on the streets in their late teens and no one cares. the system is designed to do as much damage as possible to families and especially children, and they've read the same stats I have so they know what they're doing is harming every kid they touch. I know what I'm talking about, I've read the stats and seen them in action. Kids are routinely sold or brokered to pedophiles and farmed out to kiddy farms where people foster dozens of kids for money. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69326066 United States 06/11/2015 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i had working parents. when i was 11, after school i babysat my 3 younger sisters and it was our job to have the house cleaned when the parents got home. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50311197 the good old days. Me too and I had to cook dinner too. As a young man I learned how to cook and still cook for my wife. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69221791 United States 06/11/2015 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | holy shit crap 11 yr olds are old enough to babysit themself. 11 yr old girls sometimes babysit strangers younger kids for money when i was 11 in the 90s my parents would give me money and i walk by myself down a few streets to stores to go shopping and walk back home. to the drugstore or to buy snacks or supermarket i guess the world has changed. what next? parents will be arrested for not keeping their 17 and a half yr old on a child leash? its not like the 11 yr old boy was locked in a car, and if the neighbors were worried they could have invited the boy inside and call his parents |
BiGGEsmalls User ID: 69083054 United States 06/11/2015 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What absolute horse shit. At 11 that kid was more than capable of watching himself in his own yard for 90 minutes. And if the nosy neighbor was so concerned why didn't they offer to let the boy come play in their yard where they could supervise until the parents came home and they voiced their concerns? Quoting: ItsAllOneBigLie The person who lived next door, I hate to use the word neighbor, because I like to think of neighbors as extensions to my community, and I like to view them in a positive light. It is not always easy. The people that placed that call did not do so for the benefit of the child. They used the child as a pawn in a vicious, vindictive act, to get back at the parents or the children. Twice in the last two years, I had to take on the financial responsibility for the repair of vandalism done to my home. Destruction done by a group of young boys ages six to nine. Partly done out of curiosity and partly done an a dare. When I found which children were involved, I felt worse for what the children had to endure from their rude, ignorant, classless parents, and even worse when talking with the police. The children were lost in a cesspool of a system that saw them as worthless with no hope, and left with little chance of a productive future, under the care of people that did not want the responsibility and lacked the commitment to be parents. It was easier for me to work overtime to pay off the $35,000.00 loan for the repairs, than to allow those children to suffer the consequences, if I had proceeded with legal action. It was, and still is not, an easy choice. I still become angry when I think about the unfairness of the whole situation. I sometimes feel like I should have made the parents pay, but I keep reminding myself that even if I had proceeded with the law suit, I would never have received a dime, and the children would have been the ones that would have suffered the most. The lessons they would have learned at age six to nine, were not the lessons that would have made them better men, and I did not want to live with the knowledge that by opening that box, it would only end with a closed lid and a missing key. I am sure there is a lot that is not being told in this story, and I am sure that there are no truly innocent parties involved, and in the end the only ones that truly suffer are the children. I hate The Man, The Machine and The System too. BiGGEsmalls |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69471164 United States 06/11/2015 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOOD! I have young girls, and they are never out of me or my wife's eyesight. There are just too many kids being grabbed by child predators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45509658 I know when I was a kid (in the 1980s) hundreds of thousands of kids were abducted each and every year in the USA. It may not be as bad now, but it's still very bad. Keep your kid's within arms' reach folks ... Are you out of your fucking mind? |
Doc_Holiday Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 46999302 United States 06/11/2015 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One afternoon this past April, a Florida mom and dad I'll call Cindy and Fred could not get home in time to let their 11-year-old son into the house. The boy didn't have a key, so he played basketball in the yard. He was alone for 90 minutes. A neighbor called the cops, and when the parents arrived—having been delayed by traffic and rain—they were arrested for negligence. Quoting: 411 They were put in handcuffs, strip searched, fingerprinted, and held overnight in jail. It would be a month before their sons—the 11-year-old and his 4-year-old brother—were allowed home again. Only after the eldest spoke up and begged a judge to give him back to his parents did the situation improve. I spoke with Cindy about her family’s horrible ordeal. "My older one was the so-called 'victim,'" she said during a phone interview. But since she and her husband were charged with felony neglect, the younger boy had to be removed from the home, too. Here is the law: "A person who willfully or by culpable negligence neglects a child without causing great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the child commits a felony of the third degree." I first heard of Cindy's case last week when she wrote to me at Free-Range Kids. Her email explained: The authorities claim he had no access to water or shelter. We have an open shed in the back yard and 2 working sinks and 2 hoses. They said he had no food. He ate his snacks already. He had no bathroom, but the responding officer found our yard good enough to relieve himself in while our son sat in a police car alone. In his own yard, in a state, Florida, that has no minimum age for children to be alone. The children were placed in foster care for two days while the state ran a background check on a relative who was willing to take them in. "Our first choice was my mother," said Cindy. "But she lives in another state and so the kids would have been in foster care even longer until they cleared her." The parents decided to have them placed with a slightly problematic in-state relative instead. On the day they all appeared in children's court to move the kids from foster care into the relative's custody, Cindy thought her older son smelled a little strange. "What have you been eating?" she asked. MORE.... [link to reason.com (secure)] Meanwhile in inner city's all across America teenage thugs run around killing each other and robbing innocent citizens. Say When! |
IDW User ID: 69482970 United States 06/11/2015 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what next? parents will be arrested for not keeping their 17 and a half yr old on a child leash? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69221791 Some kids need to be on a leash, but if the kid didn't do anything wrong I don't see how the fucking state can get involved. When I was 12 I was going to other COUNTRIES unattended by an adult. At 4 I was roaming the neighborhood, and at 10 I hunted. It's sad what has happened, the real threat to the kids isn't people out in the neighborhood, it's the fucking government. |
IDW User ID: 69482970 United States 06/11/2015 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOOD! I have young girls, and they are never out of me or my wife's eyesight. There are just too many kids being grabbed by child predators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45509658 I know when I was a kid (in the 1980s) hundreds of thousands of kids were abducted each and every year in the USA. It may not be as bad now, but it's still very bad. Keep your kid's within arms' reach folks ... Are you out of your fucking mind? Brainwashed idiot tard with a smart phone, kids have one too. KIds will be safe from "predators" only if you know who the predators really are, and it ain't some guy in a van baiting kids with puppies and candy,it's teachers, coaches, foster parents,family members and friends of the family. The child is actually statistically orders of magnitude safer in the hands of a total stranger. that's a fact |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68578985 United States 06/11/2015 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOOD! I have young girls, and they are never out of me or my wife's eyesight. There are just too many kids being grabbed by child predators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45509658 I know when I was a kid (in the 1980s) hundreds of thousands of kids were abducted each and every year in the USA. It may not be as bad now, but it's still very bad. Keep your kid's within arms' reach folks ... Hundreds of thousands? You made that shit up. |
Debauchery User ID: 65823699 United States 06/11/2015 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what next? parents will be arrested for not keeping their 17 and a half yr old on a child leash? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69221791 Some kids need to be on a leash, but if the kid didn't do anything wrong I don't see how the fucking state can get involved. When I was 12 I was going to other COUNTRIES unattended by an adult. At 4 I was roaming the neighborhood, and at 10 I hunted. It's sad what has happened, the real threat to the kids isn't people out in the neighborhood, it's the fucking government. Right. It's the fucking government. They own our kids. Any time they please they can walk into your home and snatch them away for nothing. When I was a kid we roamed the neighborhoods, had a great time, stayed home alone here and there, we even played outside after dark. Can't do it anymore. God forbid the neighbor with a stick in their ass sees any of that. And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
Supertzar Breshears is Off: Ask Me Why User ID: 65955727 United States 06/11/2015 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Neighbor that called should be flogged in public. We've officially jumped the fuckin' shark in this country... Quoting: Saddletramp This is where to place the blame, 100%. What a bullshit neighbor. We'd have a Hatfield/McCoy situation on our hands if that was us. (B)ullshit™ always needs an amplified bullhorn demanding kneeling subservience - or else.- SyncAsFunk The light within me always draws me back to make the dark decision to leave the false counterfeit light. -New Heart |
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IDW User ID: 69482970 United States 06/11/2015 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOOD! I have young girls, and they are never out of me or my wife's eyesight. There are just too many kids being grabbed by child predators. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45509658 I know when I was a kid (in the 1980s) hundreds of thousands of kids were abducted each and every year in the USA. It may not be as bad now, but it's still very bad. Keep your kid's within arms' reach folks ... Hundreds of thousands? You made that shit up. It's a propaganda trick. Hundreds of thousands of kids are reported missing every year. Most of them are found within hours at a friends house or somewhere they were actually supposed to be. Some run away, and most are just "misplaced" and not actually missing. About 200 kids are abducted by total strangers in the United states every year, and these abductions are always high profile events in order to create fear. Most of these abductions have nothing to do with child predators, they're hired by relatives of the kid to nab him. The vast majority of missing kids who are not found within the first day or so are parental abductions or runaways, neither of which is actually kidnapped or missing. Your kids chance of being abducted is not decreased by your stupid concerns. If a predator wants a kid , they'll figure out a way, and the weaknesses in your defenses are where you put your trust. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56268482 United States 06/11/2015 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power.” “Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.” “Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.” “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” “Perhaps one did not want to be loved so much as to be understood.” |
IDW User ID: 69482970 United States 06/11/2015 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll tell you a dirty little secret most of you have never heard and that is that most of the children used in child pornography and passed around by pedophile rings are kids that were taken from their parents by the government. They try to create the illusion that these kids are abducted by strangers and forced into this , but the truth is they're almost all in the system. Child abuse is orders of magnitude worst in state mandated care than with parental care. It almost seems as if the intent is to destroy, but what it really is about is these creatures have figured out ways to profit off of these children. Most kids take have no evidence of abuse or neglect when taken from their parents, but that doesn't last long, and if you try to report an adoptive or foster "parent" in the states placement system for abuse or neglect, they ignore you |