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Wanted to see a "winged star?" Here's a live webcast of one...
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My take is in the thread, here: Because this thread was just recently pinned, I figure it might be worthwhile to repost the relevant information about what this video actually does, and does not show. It does not show what was actually in the missing region of google sky. Ok
So if this isn't what has been BLACKOUT by GOOGLE all this time. WHAT WAS.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27331649 Watch: ...
Those are not the coordinates that were blacked out on Google sky. See above. Those coordinates you just posted correspond to a well known reflection nebula which has always been there.
Quoting: Dr. Astro You are full of it! The coords are different than the coords for the black box because the object is not fixed in the sky but traveling No, it's not. They're two completely different things. My video shows what was ACTUALLY missing from google sky. Your video shows a completely different thing in a completely different region of the sky. Here it is from a picture from 1951: [ link to archive.stsci.edu (secure)] Here it is from a picture taken by the same telescope in the 1990s: [ link to archive.stsci.edu (secure)] Same surrounding stars, it hasn't moved in all that time. My alma mater has the 1951 picture at their observatory so I can personally verify that shit and take a new picture of the same nebula and star if you want. It's just a reflection nebula around a t tauri star, a young pre-main sequence star surrounded by the remnants of the cloud it was birthed from. [ link to simbad.u-strasbg.fr] [ link to simbad.u-strasbg.fr] and if this "winged object" is so "well known", we would have noticed it by now!
Quoting: WatcherApparently not. Apparently I know more about the sky than you do. I've known about this nebula for years. ...
But it's NOT in the same position as the black box on Google sky.
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But it's NOT in the same position as the black box on Google sky.
Quoting: Dr. Astro I thought that was the whole basis of the video? Lol The video is hilariously wrong. Look at the coordinates; 5h 53m 27s, -6d 10' 56" for the "missing section" and the fake "hercolubus image" (see my video for what is really at those coordinates in the missing image) and then 5h 42m 21s, +22d 36' 34.5" for the image of the T Tauri star and nebula. That's over 28 degrees different in declination and nearly 3 degrees different in right ascension. It's not in the "missing region" at all. Here's my telescope's image of the missing region, it's less than a degree in length in declination: [ link to nova.astrometry.net] I would like to see the co-oridinates from the 50s photo as well as the 90 photo, showing this mirrored nebula.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23930197 Sure! Absolutely, it's right in the URL I gave you for them. [ link to archive.stsci.edu (secure)] [ link to archive.stsci.edu (secure)] 5 42 21.235, +22 36 47.07 Note, of course, that in his video he doesn't have the star+nebula perfectly centered, so his coordinates won't be a perfect match, but the important thing is that it hasn't moved between those images decades apart. Here is astrometry confirming the coordinates from the 90's image. [ link to nova.astrometry.net] And here is the astrometry confirming the coordinates from the 1951 image: [ link to nova.astrometry.net] And yes, other T Tauri stars with reflection nebulae similar to this one exist elsewhere in the sky as well. Hat tip to Hydra for finding these examples: Here's a challenge Mr. Astro. If this is a fairly common occurence and well known, then show another winged looking planet at a different set of coordinates that we can confirm on Google sky.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63601926 Paging Dr. Astro... A challenge has been issued. Still awaiting those coordinates *crickets* I was busy, good lord, have some damn patience. Other fine examples have ALREADY BEEN POSTED by Hydra. Here's one: [ link to archive.stsci.edu (secure)] Coordinates: 19h 29m 01s, +09d 38.7' [ link to www.reinervogel.net] [ link to www.reinervogel.net] [ link to www.reinervogel.net] [ link to www.reinervogel.net]
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