BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Is there any record of showing that someone shot the amount he did, and lived? Let alone was able to clean up his drug usage, to the sense of putting it awayin the cigar box lid closed and sit and load a shotgun to the mouth and pull the trigger? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69496627 I know this is a conspiracy site, but Got Dayum if this shit doesn't stink to high hell. Watch the movie and tell me you don't feel differently. Don't watch that piece of shit "Kurt and Courtney," which brought it all up originally, but watch "Soaked in Bleach" and tell me you don't smell some kind of fuckery in Courtney's/official story's bullshit! Why and how would there be a record of that? Where are all these records on peoples drug use and how much they took I've seen the doc let me clarify my position im not saying kurt deffinitly killed himself im just saying that making the statement that theres no way kurt could have survived that much heroin is flawed and if you spent 5 minutes reasearchinh addiction and tolerance instead of saying watch the video over and over youd see why |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61283155 You're the one with no clue, you're just guessing or repeating what's written in books which is irrelevant anyway. You have no direct experience that's quite clear. Your a fucking retard dude seriously are you 12? You don't know shit of what you're talking about except to get on here play lawyer. FAIL. to Im not playing lawyer im playing someone who knows what there talking about not some delusional 12 year old who cant reconcile facts FAIL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) So why do the leading pathologists and forensic experts state on record that they think the investigation was botched? Why is it that 3 times a "lethal dose" is deemed arbitrary? Why do we accept that he was about to be so incapicitated by such a huge amount of heroine that it is acceptable to believe that he not only shot up that amount but also put away the kit in the cigar box, PLUS grabbed a shotgun and put it in his mouth and pulled the trigger, when such a dose would render him incapacitated/unconscious and unable to do what is claimed within the 20-40 seconds speculated to render him unable to do so, regardless of tolerance? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69496627 Ever seen a junkie shoot up? They don't have shit for awareness in less than 30 seconds after a hit. Let alone cleaning up after themselves. A needle should've been found in his arm IMO. Ive shot up myself many a time and i lve seen people od and what saying is theres no way to know if that much heroin would have renderes hom unconcious because he could have been tolerant also yes when you shoot dope if takea effect instantly and you get this beautiful rush but it still takes time to reach its peak effect its entirely possible he could have shot himself before the dope peaked Are you on heroin now? I don't expect Kurt could have shot himself. Its very possible that he could have |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61283155 United States 06/16/2015 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65734752 im not trolling im explaining something that you just dont get the top quote is talking directly about the amounf of H in cobains system you just refuse to see that wrong and you have no clue what your talking about your mind has completely shut out anything that opposes your beliefs even when its an absolute fact god its like talking to a brick wall You're the one with no clue, you're just guessing or repeating what's written in books which is irrelevant anyway. You have no direct experience that's quite clear. No i have tons of direct experience thats the thing and its absurd that yous have so little understanding of what your talking about it is entirely possible for a human beong to become tolerant to ANY amount of heroin thats the essence of addiction TOLERANCE seriously look it up cause this is madness Addressed in the movie. there's no previous case of any heroin user that injected that much and stayed conscious. It's obvious 65734752 is a fucking moron, and it's certainly obvious he's never been a junkie himself or he would know this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61283155 United States 06/16/2015 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) You don't know shit of what you're talking about except to get on here play lawyer. FAIL. to Im not playing lawyer im playing someone who knows what there talking about not some delusional 12 year old who cant reconcile facts FAIL Fuck you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65734752 im not trolling im explaining something that you just dont get the top quote is talking directly about the amounf of H in cobains system you just refuse to see that wrong and you have no clue what your talking about your mind has completely shut out anything that opposes your beliefs even when its an absolute fact god its like talking to a brick wall You're the one with no clue, you're just guessing or repeating what's written in books which is irrelevant anyway. You have no direct experience that's quite clear. Your a fucking retard dude seriously are you 12? You don't know shit of what you're talking about except toand get on here play lawyer. FAIL. Really? So what do you know? Do you know what a receptor site is, or what an opiod receptor is, do you know how someone develops a physical addiction, do you know anything about bioavailability, tolerance,withdrawal, post acute withdrawal syndrome? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69520637 United States 06/16/2015 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Several different studies on heroin use have noted the difficulty in pinpointing the level of heroin that an addict can tolerate. In a 2004 story, Dateline NBC questioned five medical examiners about the figure from the toxicology report. Two said Cobain could have built up a tolerance through repeated usage, allowing him to pull the trigger himself, while the other three maintained that the information was inconclusive.[9] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65164023 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] your source is no longer relevant. Those two opinions were based on the supposition that the PI quote of "1.52ml" wasn't accurate. That's been disproven. It dosent matter how much dope he had in his system the point is its entirely possible to become tolerant to any amount pf heroin feel free to show us a similar case. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61283155 United States 06/16/2015 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Is there any record of showing that someone shot the amount he did, and lived? Let alone was able to clean up his drug usage, to the sense of putting it awayin the cigar box lid closed and sit and load a shotgun to the mouth and pull the trigger? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69496627 I know this is a conspiracy site, but Got Dayum if this shit doesn't stink to high hell. Watch the movie and tell me you don't feel differently. Don't watch that piece of shit "Kurt and Courtney," which brought it all up originally, but watch "Soaked in Bleach" and tell me you don't smell some kind of fuckery in Courtney's/official story's bullshit! Why and how would there be a record of that? Where are all these records on peoples drug use and how much they took I've seen the doc let me clarify my position im not saying kurt deffinitly killed himself im just saying that making the statement that theres no way kurt could have survived that much heroin is flawed and if you spent 5 minutes reasearchinh addiction and tolerance instead of saying watch the video over and over youd see why Hahahahahaha!!! You're basing all of your conjecture over what you read? You are either a lawyer, investigator, cop, or have been and THIS is where you guys FAIL constantly at what you do. You have absolutely NO streetwisdom and this is why you fuck up your cases. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69496627 United States 06/16/2015 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) A great part of the movie shows an interview with Kurt from Dec 93 on MTV, where he is asked about his stomach problem that had plagued him so badly that he referred to it as the reason of his heroine use. He stated that he hadn't had a stomach problem in almost a year and said he felt better than he had in a year. Couple that with him wanting to divorce Courtney, going to and leaving rehab, and "supposedly" wanting to cut her out of the will and leave the Rock and Roll business all together and just be a singer/songwriter like Johnny Cash, I'd say he wanted out of the biz and she saw the dollars evaporating and did something about it to stop the" hemorrhaging of money." He didn't care about the money like she did, that is a fact that is addressed in the movie. Their lawyer needs to be subpoenaed regardless of lawyer/client privilege. This should be at least a possible murder investigation, considering the amount of money at stake. Obvious is obvious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Is there any record of showing that someone shot the amount he did, and lived? Let alone was able to clean up his drug usage, to the sense of putting it awayin the cigar box lid closed and sit and load a shotgun to the mouth and pull the trigger? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69496627 I know this is a conspiracy site, but Got Dayum if this shit doesn't stink to high hell. Watch the movie and tell me you don't feel differently. Don't watch that piece of shit "Kurt and Courtney," which brought it all up originally, but watch "Soaked in Bleach" and tell me you don't smell some kind of fuckery in Courtney's/official story's bullshit! Why and how would there be a record of that? Where are all these records on peoples drug use and how much they took I've seen the doc let me clarify my position im not saying kurt deffinitly killed himself im just saying that making the statement that theres no way kurt could have survived that much heroin is flawed and if you spent 5 minutes reasearchinh addiction and tolerance instead of saying watch the video over and over youd see why Hahahahahaha!!! You're basing all of your conjecture over what you read? You are either a lawyer, investigator, cop, or have been and THIS is where you guys FAIL constantly at what you do. You have absolutely NO streetwisdom and this is why you fuck up your cases. How am i basing anything on conjecture do you even know what that word means? Im basing what im saying on facts and the reality of how addiction works your basing everything you say on a documentary. Some of you people arr just insane. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61283155 No i have tons of direct experience thats the thing and its absurd that yous have so little understanding of what your talking about it is entirely possible for a human beong to become tolerant to ANY amount of heroin thats the essence of addiction TOLERANCE seriously look it up cause this is madness Addressed in the movie. there's no previous case of any heroin user that injected that much and stayed conscious. It's obvious 65734752 is a fucking moron, and it's certainly obvious he's never been a junkie himself or he would know this. Why do you think theres records on every junkie and hoe much they use? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) You guys are arguing against the very way addiction works ive never seen anything like this and ive been on this site for years. As you injest a drug over time your body adjust and your body chemistry changes your body becomes use to having the drug in its system and dependence develops your body becomes used to the drug and you need to take more and more to get the same effects this is called tolerance there is no limit to how tolerant you can become it all depeneds on how much of a drug you do and how long you can do it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69520745 United States 06/16/2015 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Their lawyer needs to be subpoenaed regardless of lawyer/client privilege. This should be at least a possible murder investigation, considering the amount of money at stake. Obvious is obvious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69496627 Her own lawyer thought she killed him. Tom was recording all his calls and she basically says that, until she realizes he's taping it all, and then she quits talking. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69511571 United States 06/16/2015 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) rip two beautiful voices snuffed by this demon of a woman... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61283155 United States 06/16/2015 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Is there any record of showing that someone shot the amount he did, and lived? Let alone was able to clean up his drug usage, to the sense of putting it awayin the cigar box lid closed and sit and load a shotgun to the mouth and pull the trigger? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69496627 I know this is a conspiracy site, but Got Dayum if this shit doesn't stink to high hell. Watch the movie and tell me you don't feel differently. Don't watch that piece of shit "Kurt and Courtney," which brought it all up originally, but watch "Soaked in Bleach" and tell me you don't smell some kind of fuckery in Courtney's/official story's bullshit! Why and how would there be a record of that? Where are all these records on peoples drug use and how much they took I've seen the doc let me clarify my position im not saying kurt deffinitly killed himself im just saying that making the statement that theres no way kurt could have survived that much heroin is flawed and if you spent 5 minutes reasearchinh addiction and tolerance instead of saying watch the video over and over youd see why Hahahahahaha!!! You're basing all of your conjecture over what you read? You are either a lawyer, investigator, cop, or have been and THIS is where you guys FAIL constantly at what you do. You have absolutely NO streetwisdom and this is why you fuck up your cases. How am i basing anything on conjecture do you even know what that word means? Im basing what im saying on facts and the reality of how addiction works your basing everything you say on a documentary. Some of you people arr just insane. All drugs are not the same and heroin is a different animal. You can talk until you're blue in the face, but the fact is that Kurt Cobain would have turned grey and nodded off, completely passed out (and OD'ed) Dead men, or even someone passed out on heroin can't kill themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69520769 United States 06/16/2015 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Is there any record of showing that someone shot the amount he did, and lived? Let alone was able to clean up his drug usage, to the sense of putting it awayin the cigar box lid closed and sit and load a shotgun to the mouth and pull the trigger? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69496627 and then move the shotgun shell from the left side of the room to the right side, after his head is blown off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69208205 United States 06/16/2015 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Great movie and yeah lots of good evidence pointing to the fact she did it. All one needs to ponder is motive... Quoting: Spazz I didn't get why the movie was named Soaked in Bleach, however, anyone want to remind me of what I missed that it may be a reference to? Thanks. Nirvana's first album was called bleach, and I believe some junkies sanitize their heroin needles with bleach. Thank you! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65734752 Why and how would there be a record of that? Where are all these records on peoples drug use and how much they took I've seen the doc let me clarify my position im not saying kurt deffinitly killed himself im just saying that making the statement that theres no way kurt could have survived that much heroin is flawed and if you spent 5 minutes reasearchinh addiction and tolerance instead of saying watch the video over and over youd see why Hahahahahaha!!! You're basing all of your conjecture over what you read? You are either a lawyer, investigator, cop, or have been and THIS is where you guys FAIL constantly at what you do. You have absolutely NO streetwisdom and this is why you fuck up your cases. How am i basing anything on conjecture do you even know what that word means? Im basing what im saying on facts and the reality of how addiction works your basing everything you say on a documentary. Some of you people arr just insane. All drugs are not the same and heroin is a different animal. You can talk until you're blue in the face, but the fact is that Kurt Cobain would have turned grey and nodded off, completely passed out (and OD'ed) Dead men, or even someone passed out on heroin can't kill themselves. What? Im talking about heroin and for your information all opiate cause tolerance and addiction |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69520792 United States 06/16/2015 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) You guys are arguing against the very way addiction works ive never seen anything like this and ive been on this site for years. As you injest a drug over time your body adjust and your body chemistry changes your body becomes use to having the drug in its system and dependence develops your body becomes used to the drug and you need to take more and more to get the same effects this is called tolerance there is no limit to how tolerant you can become it all depeneds on how much of a drug you do and how long you can do it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65734752 feel free to point us to a similar case of lethal heroin dose followed by shotgun blast. we'll wait. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69443040 United States 06/16/2015 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) You guys are arguing against the very way addiction works ive never seen anything like this and ive been on this site for years. As you injest a drug over time your body adjust and your body chemistry changes your body becomes use to having the drug in its system and dependence develops your body becomes used to the drug and you need to take more and more to get the same effects this is called tolerance there is no limit to how tolerant you can become it all depeneds on how much of a drug you do and how long you can do it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65734752 feel free to point us to a similar case of lethal heroin dose followed by shotgun blast. we'll wait. . There is no way to determine what a lethal dose what have been for kurt would have been because we dont know how high his tolerance is thats the point im making it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65734752 United States 06/16/2015 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Its not a thread derail im just shocked at how people fail to grasp this its like your all willfully ignorant you two keep going back and forth name calling and what not who cares who knows what about heroin good lord great post, OP thank you for the video Im just trying to state that its impossible to know how much heroin it would have taken to kill kurt regardless of what the doc says that is all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69496627 United States 06/16/2015 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) There are at least enough inconsistencies in the official narrative that beg the question of asking if this case was closed shut from the beginning because of poor investigation, or deserved to be reopened due to "new" viewpoints on the case. The fact that Grant was dismissed when he approached the the lead investigator at the "crime/death" scene after identifying himself as a person in the house within the last 24 hours of body discovery speaks volumes as to the SPD's lack of investigative skills. Try going to a "crime/death" scene and tell them you were there the night before and see if you don't get detained/questioned. It fucking doesn't make any sense. Period! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69443040 United States 06/16/2015 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) Its not a thread derail im just shocked at how people fail to grasp this its like your all willfully ignorant you two keep going back and forth name calling and what not who cares who knows what about heroin good lord great post, OP thank you for the video Im just trying to state that its impossible to know how much heroin it would have taken to kill kurt regardless of what the doc says that is all that is true, but there is this thing called an LD-50 and he had 3x that amount (for a heavy user) in his body that's all you need to know his personal tolerance is irrelevant if you still disagree, then you need to research fatal drug doses a little more |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61283155 United States 06/16/2015 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) You guys are arguing against the very way addiction works ive never seen anything like this and ive been on this site for years. As you injest a drug over time your body adjust and your body chemistry changes your body becomes use to having the drug in its system and dependence develops your body becomes used to the drug and you need to take more and more to get the same effects this is called tolerance there is no limit to how tolerant you can become it all depeneds on how much of a drug you do and how long you can do it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65734752 So now you're saying that anyone can develop a tolerance for any drug and then take any amount of that drug and therefore never die. :fullretard1: Oh man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69520872 United States 06/16/2015 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BOMBSHELL NEW DOCO: "Soaked in Bleach" Proves Kurt Cobain was Murdered (UNRELEASED AUDIO from 1994) You guys are arguing against the very way addiction works ive never seen anything like this and ive been on this site for years. As you injest a drug over time your body adjust and your body chemistry changes your body becomes use to having the drug in its system and dependence develops your body becomes used to the drug and you need to take more and more to get the same effects this is called tolerance there is no limit to how tolerant you can become it all depeneds on how much of a drug you do and how long you can do it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65734752 feel free to point us to a similar case of lethal heroin dose followed by shotgun blast. we'll wait. . There is no way to determine what a lethal dose what have been for kurt would have been because we dont know how high his tolerance is thats the point im making it Still waiting... |