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Oh this just keeps getting worse! Pope Francis Says You’re NOT Christian if You Own a Gun!!!!

 
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Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

This is real strange. Is the Pope going against the bible?
 Quoting: Joelim


Good point, yes it appears that he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20717835


That pope wouldn't know a Bible if it hit him
in the head.
He is a tool of Satan, pure and simple.

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Re: Oh this just keeps getting worse! Pope Francis Says You’re NOT Christian if You Own a Gun!!!!
The RCC used to control governments, maybe still does, so they can say their hands are clean and they don't actually invest in arms.

Therefore the Pope says that if you invest in military industry you're not Christian. I guess the idea is that if you're attacked, don't defend yourself but turn the other cheek.

Well that works pretty well doesn't it? And the Pope certainly did that in his climb to the highest power in the RCC. Oh wait he didn't?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69537425


Turn the other cheek doesn't mean don't defend yourself.
People would backhand slap slaves, and underlings.
It simply means don't let someone back hand you in the face, make the strike you open handed as they would an equal.

I'm Catholic, and I long sense stop caring what the Pope said, or what the Church said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65730928

INo you are NOT Catholic!

Not according to them.

I am SO sick of people saying they don't subscribe to basic catholic doctrines but the think they are Catholics - they are laughable.

They are catholic by traditional identification only- kinda like most Jews that are really atheists and don't go to temple.

You cannot take communion and are EXCOMMUNICATED if you use birth control , have unmarried sexual relations, are divorced, or whatever the Pope now ads to the list- like own a gun.

Catholics are Papists. If you don't follow the Popea whims then you are NOT Catholic .
loads of Christians are "lapsed Catholics" .

Catholic =Pope followers.

Americans are total hypocrites that use birth control or get abortions and divorces and then think they can go to Mass and receive communion.
You just haven't looked into the mirror and faced up to your own belief that YOU can pick and chooe over the Pope and still be Catholic.

The Popes of recent times are vile childfuckers and Benedict was indicted in The Hague of child abuse in international court and that is why he resigned.

Go put money in the basket for the legal defense of pedophiles - that's where your donations go.

Anyone who claims to be Catholic today and supports this system is too naive or evil to deal with, WAKE UP.
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The pope brings a false peace, for he deceives the whole world.
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Ah the Pope weighing in on the gun debate.. The perfect pretext for someone important.. I don't know say Obama? to get shot in the head.. and the Pope miraculously heals him.. just saying
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The Vatican is the largest shareholder in Beretta.
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The Vatican never did represent Christians, just Catholics. Now the pope doesn't even represent them. He's just another gun grabbing liberal politician. He is basically telling them they can kiss his ass instead of his ring.
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I'm no fan of this pope, but I agree with a previous poster. I don't think the pope is talking about individual gun owners. I think this is more about arms manufacturers, but it begs the question, without arms manufacturers, where are individuals supposed to get the means to defend themselves?
John 8:32

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
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The Vatican is the largest shareholder in Beretta.
 Quoting: centrist77


Is that true? If so... laugh
John 8:32

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
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So the pope will unarm all his security and lead by example
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he said guns. The swiss guard doesnt have guns.
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"I came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"

Though I think peace is His ultimate goal...
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didn't he send the 72 out with swords? Didn't he say that those who have no sword should sell their cloak and buy one? didn't he say that he came to set father against son and mother against daughter?

maybe we should ban the bible for being divisive..since so many want to ban a flag..the books are next..and then the thoughts..

anything can be twisted to good or evil, it depends upon what you do with it.
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Wow it's a good thing I don't give a shit about what his eminence thinks. He should go back to buggering altar boys and keep out of politics!!
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What if you protect pedophiles from prosecution,are you still Christian then?
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The Vatican is the largest shareholder in Beretta.
 Quoting: centrist77


Is that true? If so... laugh
 Quoting: Revbo™


[link to usahitman.com (secure)]


There you go, in fact if you try to google it, it will auto fill in half for you.
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Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

This is real strange. Is the Pope going against the bible?
 Quoting: Joelim


Jesus was telling His disciples to buy swords to defend themselves because He was about to be arrested and crucified. They were to be ready to travel with any money they had. So yes, Jesus told us to defend ourselves.
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Re: Oh this just keeps getting worse! Pope Francis Says You’re NOT Christian if You Own a Gun!!!!
Christians are very hypocritical and even though pope has a point he should worry about them child molesting scandals in the church.

No real christian would have owned a slave however most of the founders had slaves.
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I don't know much about religion but didn't some people warn about a Pope such as this?
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Thanks for the pin.

This is going to be a very interesting week for me as most of my family is catholic, has guns and my brother owns a gun store in N.C. Those Jesuits have always given me an uneasy feeling and I am starting to figure out why!
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Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

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The Vatican is the largest shareholder in Beretta.
 Quoting: centrist77


Is that true? If so... laugh
 Quoting: Revbo™


[link to usahitman.com (secure)]


There you go, in fact if you try to google it, it will auto fill in half for you.
 Quoting: centrist77


That is rich. You just can't make this stuff up!

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The Vatican is the largest shareholder in Beretta.
 Quoting: centrist77


not true.

What I found:

The story was posted in Feb 2012 on one or more Italian blogs and then by an online publication, Cronache Laiche (Lay Chronicles). A few days later, the publication updated it with a press release from Fabbrica Armi Pietro Beretta (FAPB) denying that IOR (Istituto per le Opere di Religione = the Vatican Bank) has any stake in Beretta Holding or in any company controlled by the holding. The press release reaffirmed that Beretta Holding is a private company owned by the Beretta family.
[link to cronachelaiche.globalist.it]

FAPB is wholly owned by Beretta Holding, which is controlled by the financial vehicle owned by the family, UPIFRA, a company registered in Luxembourg.
Shareholding structure of UPIFRA and Beretta Holding:
[link to isegretidellacasta.blogspot.c...38040531618959]

Financial info on UPIFRA (May 2012):
[link to www.ilmondo.it]
The story specifies that UPIFRA has a stake of 97% in Beretta Holding.

The only verifiable link between Beretta and IOR was that by 2005-2006, UPIFRA had a small stake (less than 5%) in Banca Lombarda, which was part of a consortium named Gruppo Lombardo, together with IOR and other 2 companies. At that time, the consortium had a small stake (again less than 5%) in Intesa Sanpaolo Bank. But this has nothing to do with IOR being a shareholder in any of the companies owned by the Beretta family.
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Kiss my ass old man, Jesus wasn't a pussy and neither am I...when God removes the evil from this world I'll no longer feel the need to protect myself and my family from it. Although I may still keep my guns around to protect us from an attacking animal...you can get rid of those damned things too while you're at it.
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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You shall not kill right? /thread
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No. You shall not murder. There's a difference.
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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I'm no fan of this pope, but I agree with a previous poster. I don't think the pope is talking about individual gun owners. I think this is more about arms manufacturers, but it begs the question, without arms manufacturers, where are individuals supposed to get the means to defend themselves?
 Quoting: Revbo™


Individual gun owners support gun manufactures, which makes you just as guilty in his eyes.....
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Thread: Breaking News!!!...Pope Francis says Communism must be enforced globally
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Re: Oh this just keeps getting worse! Pope Francis Says You’re NOT Christian if You Own a Gun!!!!
Look up the Borgia family. Deceit, murder, war...Now research all (I mean all) of the other Popes.

How many wars must a religion fight to gain a foothold? The answer may shock you.

Popes stir war like their servants stir soup. It's just a right mix at the right time.

War is brewing. His comments on guns doesn't help much.

Why are people going to war over religious comments is beyond me in this day and age of science.
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Someone should tell him people who fiddle little boys are not Christian.
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LOL...it seems that we had the same thought.
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The Vatican is the largest shareholder in Beretta.
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LOL SRSLY?
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Yeah nothing says forgiveness like a .44

What did Jesus say, oh yeah, 'I am the way the truth and the light calibre rife.

What did the sermon on the mount include? 'the armed shall inherit the mall'.

Get thee behind me satan before I pop a cap in yo ass

Come follow me he said to Peter I shall make you shooters of men
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Ah the Pope weighing in on the gun debate.. The perfect pretext for someone important.. I don't know say Obama? to get shot in the head.. and the Pope miraculously heals him.. just saying
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ahhh
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Only one verse is needed to prove Christianity is compatible with the use of weapons.

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
 Quoting: Romans 13
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OMG please don't take my slingshot away grampa cry





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