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THE EFFECT OF COFFEE CONSUMPTION ON LIVER ENZYMES AND BILIRUBIN IN HEALTHY SUBJECTS

There is much evidence that caffeine is one of the safest of drugs and reports that it increased the risk of developing coronary heart disease and cancer of the pancreas are not confirmed.
Roasted coffee beans and instant coffee powder contain 10 to 40mg nicotinic acid/100g; the darker the roast the more nicotinic acid.

Random blood samples (prior to and after coffee consumption for 2 months) were collected from 58 healthy subjects and the serum liver enzymes and Bilirubin (Total and conjugated) values estimated.

The initial mean serum values are thus:
Total bilirubin : 0. 54 + 0.17 mg/dl and
conjugated bilirubin: 0.28 + 0.08 mg/dl,
while the final values are as follows:
Total bilirubin : 0.07+ 0.05 mgldl and
conjugated bilirubin: 0.07 + 0.05 mg/dl.
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THE EFFECT OF COFFEE CONSUMPTION ON LIVER ENZYMES AND BILIRUBIN IN HEALTHY SUBJECTS

There is much evidence that caffeine is one of the safest of drugs and reports that it increased the risk of developing coronary heart disease and cancer of the pancreas are not confirmed.
Roasted coffee beans and instant coffee powder contain 10 to 40mg nicotinic acid/100g; the darker the roast the more nicotinic acid.

Random blood samples (prior to and after coffee consumption for 2 months) were collected from 58 healthy subjects and the serum liver enzymes and Bilirubin (Total and conjugated) values estimated.

The initial mean serum values are thus:
Total bilirubin : 0. 54 + 0.17 mg/dl and
conjugated bilirubin: 0.28 + 0.08 mg/dl,
while the final values are as follows:
Total bilirubin : 0.07+ 0.05 mgldl and
conjugated bilirubin: 0.07 + 0.05 mg/dl.
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As seen above, after 2 months on coffee, Total bilirubin = conjugated bilirubin, so there's no more unconjugated bilirubin, which initially was half of the total bilirubin.
So coffee also helps conjugating all the bilirubin!

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Wasn't Billirubin a pirate that hung out with Blackbeard?
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Wasn't Billirubin a pirate that hung out with Blackbeard?
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Um ...I didn't know I needed my bilirubins conjugated?
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It says that people with high levels of a certain liver enzyme need to drink a lot of unfiltered coffee because it lowers the damaging enzyme and will protect the liver.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
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That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
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That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
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Well cigarettes are a different story.
Tobacco of today is completely different to the tobacco of 50 years ago. Back then it was organic and natural, today GMO plants, radioactive fertilizer, and more toxic chemicals added to make it burn better.

Smokers who start smoking today will not make it 50 years more.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
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That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
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Well cigarettes are a different story.
Tobacco of today is completely different to the tobacco of 50 years ago. Back then it was organic and natural, today GMO plants, radioactive fertilizer, and more toxic chemicals added to make it burn better.

Smokers who start smoking today will not make it 50 years more.
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I agree. i quit smoking 3 years ago. I feel a lot better and do a lot better since I quit. I don't want to get up in the morning though. I miss that first cig of the day so bad. Puff and blow, baby. That's one way to deal with anger.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
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It's the "pop", not the cigs.

One of the oldest women in France, who lived to well over a hundred, and smoked caporal cigs all day, gave up smoking when she was in her 90's.

If you've ever smoked Gitanes, you'll know that caporal cigs are pure tobacco, not the vile chemical shit sold by Philip Morris in the US.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
 Quoting: BunBun


Well cigarettes are a different story.
Tobacco of today is completely different to the tobacco of 50 years ago. Back then it was organic and natural, today GMO plants, radioactive fertilizer, and more toxic chemicals added to make it burn better.

Smokers who start smoking today will not make it 50 years more.
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I agree. i quit smoking 3 years ago. I feel a lot better and do a lot better since I quit. I don't want to get up in the morning though. I miss that first cig of the day so bad. Puff and blow, baby. That's one way to deal with anger.
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I used to really miss the post-breakfast one.

Clean now, for 19 years.
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I like my coffee medium strong, and dark roast. But will always use a filter and like some whole milk in it.

But drink 6 cups or more a day.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
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It's the "pop", not the cigs.

One of the oldest women in France, who lived to well over a hundred, and smoked caporal cigs all day, gave up smoking when she was in her 90's.

If you've ever smoked Gitanes, you'll know that caporal cigs are pure tobacco, not the vile chemical shit sold by Philip Morris in the US.
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Actually she gave up smoking when she was 117!

Jeanne Louise Calment 21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997) was a French supercentenarian who has the longest confirmed human lifespan on record, living to the age of 122 years, 164 days.
Calment smoked cigarettes from the age of 21 (1896) to 117 (1992).
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
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You might have Gilbert's syndrome.

Gilbert's syndrome, often shortened to GS, also called Gilbert–Meulengracht syndrome, is a genetic liver disorder and the most common hereditary cause of increased bilirubin and is found in up to 3-12% of the population (it is closer to 10% in Caucasian people). A major characteristic is jaundice, caused by elevated levels of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream (hyperbilirubinemia).

The cause of this hyperbilirubinemia is the reduced activity of the enzyme glucuronyltransferase, which conjugates bilirubin and a few other lipophilic molecules. Conjugation renders the bilirubin water-soluble, after which it is excreted in bile into the duodenum.

Gilbert's syndrome produces an elevated level of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream, but normally has no serious consequences. Mild jaundice may appear under conditions of exertion, stress, fasting, and infections, but the condition is otherwise usually asymptomatic.

The following symptoms have been reported in a subset of those affected: feeling tired all the time (fatigue), difficulty maintaining concentration, unusual patterns of anxiety, loss of appetite, nausea, abdominal pain, loss of weight, itching (with no rash).

Levels of bilirubin in GS patients are reported to be from 20 &#956;M to 90 &#956;M (1.2 to 5.3 mg/dl) compared to the normal amount of < 20 &#956;M.
The level of total bilirubin is often further increased if the blood sample is taken after fasting for two days, and a fast can, therefore, be useful diagnostically.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
 Quoting: BunBun


It's the "pop", not the cigs.

One of the oldest women in France, who lived to well over a hundred, and smoked caporal cigs all day, gave up smoking when she was in her 90's.

If you've ever smoked Gitanes, you'll know that caporal cigs are pure tobacco, not the vile chemical shit sold by Philip Morris in the US.
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Actually she gave up smoking when she was 117!

Jeanne Louise Calment 21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997) was a French supercentenarian who has the longest confirmed human lifespan on record, living to the age of 122 years, 164 days.
Calment smoked cigarettes from the age of 21 (1896) to 117 (1992).
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scream

lol

Why bother?

You're 117 years old. Why would you give a fuck?
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If I live to be 99 (like George Burns) I will start smoking again!
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OP's really got it in for coffee.. whats the crack here? are you selling cafeine free coffee ?
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
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You might have Gilbert's syndrome.

Gilbert's syndrome, often shortened to GS, also called Gilbert–Meulengracht syndrome, is a genetic liver disorder and the most common hereditary cause of increased bilirubin and is found in up to 3-12% of the population (it is closer to 10% in Caucasian people). A major characteristic is jaundice, caused by elevated levels of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream (hyperbilirubinemia).

The cause of this hyperbilirubinemia is the reduced activity of the enzyme glucuronyltransferase, which conjugates bilirubin and a few other lipophilic molecules. Conjugation renders the bilirubin water-soluble, after which it is excreted in bile into the duodenum.

Gilbert's syndrome produces an elevated level of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream, but normally has no serious consequences. Mild jaundice may appear under conditions of exertion, stress, fasting, and infections, but the condition is otherwise usually asymptomatic.

The following symptoms have been reported in a subset of those affected: feeling tired all the time (fatigue), difficulty maintaining concentration, unusual patterns of anxiety, loss of appetite, nausea, abdominal pain, loss of weight, itching (with no rash).

Levels of bilirubin in GS patients are reported to be from 20 &#956;M to 90 &#956;M (1.2 to 5.3 mg/dl) compared to the normal amount of < 20 &#956;M.
The level of total bilirubin is often further increased if the blood sample is taken after fasting for two days, and a fast can, therefore, be useful diagnostically.
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These symptoms might sound familiar to you:

I have had health issues since I was 21 (13 years now).
I have been diagnosed many times with chronic fatigue syndrome

All my liver function test have shown elevated bilirubin and it has been confirmed I have Gilbert's.
My main symptoms (amongst a whole host) are exhaustion, gastrointestinal trouble (bloating and very slow digestion), temperature dysregulation, and neurological symptoms like brain fog, forgetfulness, inability to concentrate and disturbed mood.
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Smoking cessation is followed by increases in serum bilirubin.

Individuals who were continuously abstinent from smoking showed a significantly greater mean increase in indirect (~unconjugated) bilirubin (0.06 mg/dl, SD = 0.165) compared to those who did not (mean = 0.02, SD = 0.148, p = .015). Similar results were obtained for total bilirubin.
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As seen above, smoking reduces 3 times the level of unconjugated bilirubin.
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I was diagnosed with significant liver fibrosis borderline cirrhosis 13 years ago. I have been drinking around a litre of strong black coffee a day since then and my liver looks smooth like a babies liver on the last biopsy.

But Ive also taken herbs and supps like milk thistle, curcumin, lipoic acid, selenium and cannabis oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
 Quoting: BunBun


You might have Gilbert's syndrome.

Gilbert's syndrome, often shortened to GS, also called Gilbert–Meulengracht syndrome, is a genetic liver disorder and the most common hereditary cause of increased bilirubin and is found in up to 3-12% of the population (it is closer to 10% in Caucasian people). A major characteristic is jaundice, caused by elevated levels of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream (hyperbilirubinemia).

The cause of this hyperbilirubinemia is the reduced activity of the enzyme glucuronyltransferase, which conjugates bilirubin and a few other lipophilic molecules. Conjugation renders the bilirubin water-soluble, after which it is excreted in bile into the duodenum.

Gilbert's syndrome produces an elevated level of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream, but normally has no serious consequences. Mild jaundice may appear under conditions of exertion, stress, fasting, and infections, but the condition is otherwise usually asymptomatic.

The following symptoms have been reported in a subset of those affected: feeling tired all the time (fatigue), difficulty maintaining concentration, unusual patterns of anxiety, loss of appetite, nausea, abdominal pain, loss of weight, itching (with no rash).

Levels of bilirubin in GS patients are reported to be from 20 &#956;M to 90 &#956;M (1.2 to 5.3 mg/dl) compared to the normal amount of < 20 &#956;M.
The level of total bilirubin is often further increased if the blood sample is taken after fasting for two days, and a fast can, therefore, be useful diagnostically.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207429


These symptoms might sound familiar to you:

I have had health issues since I was 21 (13 years now).
I have been diagnosed many times with chronic fatigue syndrome

All my liver function test have shown elevated bilirubin and it has been confirmed I have Gilbert's.
My main symptoms (amongst a whole host) are exhaustion, gastrointestinal trouble (bloating and very slow digestion), temperature dysregulation, and neurological symptoms like brain fog, forgetfulness, inability to concentrate and disturbed mood.
[link to patient.info]
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Sounds also like a thyroid problem or iodine deficiancy. Especially the slow digestion, brain fog and temperature dysregulation. Are you sure that the root cause of your problem is not a malfunctioning thyroid?

When I had full blown hepatitis, I was extremely tired, and had no appetite and lots of skin rashes. But no symptoms you mentioned other than exhaustion.
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That's amazing. I've been drinking more coffee. I was too depressed and angry to get up and drink it today, but I will do it tomorrow. I tell my husband all the time that my grandparents and great-grandparents lived into their 80's and they drank coffee everyday. I don't know anyone who drank exclusively diet pop who made it anywhere near that age.

Except for my one grandmother who is 84. She smoked for 50 years and no cancer. Like a chimney. She drank pop too, but she also drank coffee. I think she moderated the pop. But, now she's confined to the nursing home and I think it's because she has had mini strokes. Nobody will say that, though.
 Quoting: BunBun


You might have Gilbert's syndrome.

Gilbert's syndrome, often shortened to GS, also called Gilbert–Meulengracht syndrome, is a genetic liver disorder and the most common hereditary cause of increased bilirubin and is found in up to 3-12% of the population (it is closer to 10% in Caucasian people). A major characteristic is jaundice, caused by elevated levels of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream (hyperbilirubinemia).

The cause of this hyperbilirubinemia is the reduced activity of the enzyme glucuronyltransferase, which conjugates bilirubin and a few other lipophilic molecules. Conjugation renders the bilirubin water-soluble, after which it is excreted in bile into the duodenum.

Gilbert's syndrome produces an elevated level of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream, but normally has no serious consequences. Mild jaundice may appear under conditions of exertion, stress, fasting, and infections, but the condition is otherwise usually asymptomatic.

The following symptoms have been reported in a subset of those affected: feeling tired all the time (fatigue), difficulty maintaining concentration, unusual patterns of anxiety, loss of appetite, nausea, abdominal pain, loss of weight, itching (with no rash).

Levels of bilirubin in GS patients are reported to be from 20 &#956;M to 90 &#956;M (1.2 to 5.3 mg/dl) compared to the normal amount of < 20 &#956;M.
The level of total bilirubin is often further increased if the blood sample is taken after fasting for two days, and a fast can, therefore, be useful diagnostically.
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These symptoms might sound familiar to you:

I have had health issues since I was 21 (13 years now).
I have been diagnosed many times with chronic fatigue syndrome

All my liver function test have shown elevated bilirubin and it has been confirmed I have Gilbert's.
My main symptoms (amongst a whole host) are exhaustion, gastrointestinal trouble (bloating and very slow digestion), temperature dysregulation, and neurological symptoms like brain fog, forgetfulness, inability to concentrate and disturbed mood.
[link to patient.info]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207429


Sounds also like a thyroid problem or iodine deficiancy. Especially the slow digestion, brain fog and temperature dysregulation. Are you sure that the root cause of your problem is not a malfunctioning thyroid?

When I had full blown hepatitis, I was extremely tired, and had no appetite and lots of skin rashes. But no symptoms you mentioned other than exhaustion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That was not my case, but indeed, there's a strong correlation between Gilbert's syndrome and hypothyroidism. Here's another testimonial.

One of the main problems Gilberts sufferers seem to have is that doctors don't believe it causes any problems. I discovered I had Gilberts over 18 months ago, and I am still suffering badly - but not with Gilberts, rather chronic fatigue, or rather hypothyroidism and hypoadrenalism. In standard blood tests, Gilberts shows up, and is often casually dismissed by the doctor as a benign condition. Yet many of us suffer and cannot understand why Gilberts is ignored by the medical profession. I personally am devastated by this - I am a 39 year old female, struggling to bring up 3 small children with severe chronic fatigue, and have been dismissed as just having Gilberts.
Many Gilberts people suffer hypothyroidism, ie, the rate of T4 to T3 conversion is slow, and so we are cold and fatigued, have anxiety, possible hypoadrenalism (don't produce enough cortisol) and hypoglycaemia. Sound familiar to anyone?
[link to www.gilbertssyndrome.com]
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Yes, coffee is good!

Daily coffee consumption halves the risk of a form of liver cancer, and the greater the consumption the greater the protection.
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Yes, coffee is good!

Daily coffee consumption halves the risk of a form of liver cancer, and the greater the consumption the greater the protection.
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yaaay! hf

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You might have Gilbert's syndrome.

Gilbert's syndrome, often shortened to GS, also called Gilbert–Meulengracht syndrome, is a genetic liver disorder and the most common hereditary cause of increased bilirubin and is found in up to 3-12% of the population (it is closer to 10% in Caucasian people). A major characteristic is jaundice, caused by elevated levels of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream (hyperbilirubinemia).

The cause of this hyperbilirubinemia is the reduced activity of the enzyme glucuronyltransferase, which conjugates bilirubin and a few other lipophilic molecules. Conjugation renders the bilirubin water-soluble, after which it is excreted in bile into the duodenum.

Gilbert's syndrome produces an elevated level of unconjugated bilirubin in the bloodstream, but normally has no serious consequences. Mild jaundice may appear under conditions of exertion, stress, fasting, and infections, but the condition is otherwise usually asymptomatic.

The following symptoms have been reported in a subset of those affected: feeling tired all the time (fatigue), difficulty maintaining concentration, unusual patterns of anxiety, loss of appetite, nausea, abdominal pain, loss of weight, itching (with no rash).

Levels of bilirubin in GS patients are reported to be from 20 &#956;M to 90 &#956;M (1.2 to 5.3 mg/dl) compared to the normal amount of < 20 &#956;M.
The level of total bilirubin is often further increased if the blood sample is taken after fasting for two days, and a fast can, therefore, be useful diagnostically.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207429


These symptoms might sound familiar to you:

I have had health issues since I was 21 (13 years now).
I have been diagnosed many times with chronic fatigue syndrome

All my liver function test have shown elevated bilirubin and it has been confirmed I have Gilbert's.
My main symptoms (amongst a whole host) are exhaustion, gastrointestinal trouble (bloating and very slow digestion), temperature dysregulation, and neurological symptoms like brain fog, forgetfulness, inability to concentrate and disturbed mood.
[link to patient.info]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207429


Sounds also like a thyroid problem or iodine deficiancy. Especially the slow digestion, brain fog and temperature dysregulation. Are you sure that the root cause of your problem is not a malfunctioning thyroid?

When I had full blown hepatitis, I was extremely tired, and had no appetite and lots of skin rashes. But no symptoms you mentioned other than exhaustion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That was not my case, but indeed, there's a strong correlation between Gilbert's syndrome and hypothyroidism. Here's another testimonial.

One of the main problems Gilberts sufferers seem to have is that doctors don't believe it causes any problems. I discovered I had Gilberts over 18 months ago, and I am still suffering badly - but not with Gilberts, rather chronic fatigue, or rather hypothyroidism and hypoadrenalism. In standard blood tests, Gilberts shows up, and is often casually dismissed by the doctor as a benign condition. Yet many of us suffer and cannot understand why Gilberts is ignored by the medical profession. I personally am devastated by this - I am a 39 year old female, struggling to bring up 3 small children with severe chronic fatigue, and have been dismissed as just having Gilberts.
Many Gilberts people suffer hypothyroidism, ie, the rate of T4 to T3 conversion is slow, and so we are cold and fatigued, have anxiety, possible hypoadrenalism (don't produce enough cortisol) and hypoglycaemia. Sound familiar to anyone?
[link to www.gilbertssyndrome.com]
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Ah shit sorry to hear that, wish I could give you some tips but Ive never dug into Gilbert syndrome before.
I do know thyroid disorders can also colour your skin yellowish, but not your eyes like jaundice.
Iodine plus magnesium b vitamins copper and zinc and selenium can work very well for correcting the thyroid component.
Diet goes a long way as well, gluten are detrimental to the liver.

I hope youre able to solve this puzzle.
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These symptoms might sound familiar to you:

I have had health issues since I was 21 (13 years now).
I have been diagnosed many times with chronic fatigue syndrome

All my liver function test have shown elevated bilirubin and it has been confirmed I have Gilbert's.
My main symptoms (amongst a whole host) are exhaustion, gastrointestinal trouble (bloating and very slow digestion), temperature dysregulation, and neurological symptoms like brain fog, forgetfulness, inability to concentrate and disturbed mood.
[link to patient.info]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207429


Sounds also like a thyroid problem or iodine deficiancy. Especially the slow digestion, brain fog and temperature dysregulation. Are you sure that the root cause of your problem is not a malfunctioning thyroid?

When I had full blown hepatitis, I was extremely tired, and had no appetite and lots of skin rashes. But no symptoms you mentioned other than exhaustion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


That was not my case, but indeed, there's a strong correlation between Gilbert's syndrome and hypothyroidism. Here's another testimonial.

One of the main problems Gilberts sufferers seem to have is that doctors don't believe it causes any problems. I discovered I had Gilberts over 18 months ago, and I am still suffering badly - but not with Gilberts, rather chronic fatigue, or rather hypothyroidism and hypoadrenalism. In standard blood tests, Gilberts shows up, and is often casually dismissed by the doctor as a benign condition. Yet many of us suffer and cannot understand why Gilberts is ignored by the medical profession. I personally am devastated by this - I am a 39 year old female, struggling to bring up 3 small children with severe chronic fatigue, and have been dismissed as just having Gilberts.
Many Gilberts people suffer hypothyroidism, ie, the rate of T4 to T3 conversion is slow, and so we are cold and fatigued, have anxiety, possible hypoadrenalism (don't produce enough cortisol) and hypoglycaemia. Sound familiar to anyone?
[link to www.gilbertssyndrome.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69207429


Ah shit sorry to hear that, wish I could give you some tips but Ive never dug into Gilbert syndrome before.
I do know thyroid disorders can also colour your skin yellowish, but not your eyes like jaundice.
Iodine plus magnesium b vitamins copper and zinc and selenium can work very well for correcting the thyroid component.
Diet goes a long way as well, gluten are detrimental to the liver.

I hope youre able to solve this puzzle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44826745


Lol sorry I misread twice, its not your story. Fortunately!





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