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MIgardener User ID: 2218630 Canada 06/23/2015 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd hardly call it breaking. It is called electrolysis, been around for 200 years. Problem is the first law of thermodynamics. Energy in=Energy out. It takes just as much energy to split the molecules as is released when the are recombined(burning hydrogen). Now if you find a working cold fusion reactor-or even regular hot fusion reactor. THAT I will be interested in. Last Edited by MIgardener on 06/23/2015 08:44 PM "All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing." That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.-Romans 10:9 "In this galaxy, there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth-type planets. And in all of the universe, three million million galaxies like this. And in all of that... and perhaps more, only one of each of us."-Dr.Mccoy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48331195 Netherlands 06/23/2015 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Ohio man accomplished this very feat over ten years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32953596 In his garage. As soon as he publicized his work he got poisoned at a local restaurant and died. Don't bother trying to search it up, I doubt you'll find the story. Splitting compounds apart warrants the death penalty |
IDW User ID: 69590137 United States 06/23/2015 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An easier route to the same ends is using sodium to release the hydrogen from oxygen. Sodium is one of the most plentiful elements on earth, salt is sodium chloride and of course the oceans are full of it, and their are vast deposits of it globally. Sodium as a fuel in a hybrid generator is a known viable alternative to fossil fuel and it is suppressed by big oil. |
IDW User ID: 69590137 United States 06/23/2015 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd hardly call it breaking. It is called electrolysis, been around for 200 years. Quoting: MIgardener Problem is the first law of thermodynamics. Energy in=Energy out. It takes just as much energy to split the molecules as is released when the are recombined(burning hydrogen). Now if you find a working cold fusion reactor-or even regular hot fusion reactor. THAT I will be interested in. No. The solution is using chemical reactions involving high level exothermic chemical reactions that produce hydrogen as a by product of the reaction. |
MIgardener User ID: 2218630 Canada 06/23/2015 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd hardly call it breaking. It is called electrolysis, been around for 200 years. Quoting: MIgardener Problem is the first law of thermodynamics. Energy in=Energy out. It takes just as much energy to split the molecules as is released when the are recombined(burning hydrogen). Now if you find a working cold fusion reactor-or even regular hot fusion reactor. THAT I will be interested in. No. The solution is using chemical reactions involving high level exothermic chemical reactions that produce hydrogen as a by product of the reaction. But then you're right back where you started. Buying fuel from somebody. I think fusion is the answer. "All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing." That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.-Romans 10:9 "In this galaxy, there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth-type planets. And in all of the universe, three million million galaxies like this. And in all of that... and perhaps more, only one of each of us."-Dr.Mccoy |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37804713 United States 06/23/2015 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't let big oil hide this from you! Will self destruct in 24 hours...This is huge! You could make your own fuel at home cheaply. Quoting: Xeven Stanford University scientists have invented a low-cost water splitter that uses a single catalyst to produce both hydrogen and oxygen gas 24 hours a day, seven days a week. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] I don't suspect this will see the light of day. There was a company called Black Light Energy from New Jersey and they demonstrated a way of pulling humidity from the air to charge a electric cars battery. Also showed how with a small amount of water they could power huge buildings, guess what happen to them... How about the company that was taking garbage from dumps and turning it into higher grade oil then companies get from the ground? Again.. Mysteriously they vanished without a trace. How about the idea of pulling energy directly from the ground to power an entire modern day home, TV, fridge, washer & dryer, everything.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69541861 United States 06/23/2015 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't let big oil hide this from you! Will self destruct in 24 hours...This is huge! You could make your own fuel at home cheaply. Quoting: Xeven Stanford University scientists have invented a low-cost water splitter that uses a single catalyst to produce both hydrogen and oxygen gas 24 hours a day, seven days a week. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] I don't suspect this will see the light of day. There was a company called Black Light Energy from New Jersey and they demonstrated a way of pulling humidity from the air to charge a electric cars battery. Also showed how with a small amount of water they could power huge buildings, guess what happen to them... How about the company that was taking garbage from dumps and turning it into higher grade oil then companies get from the ground? Again.. Mysteriously they vanished without a trace. How about the idea of pulling energy directly from the ground to power an entire modern day home, TV, fridge, washer & dryer, everything.. How about pulling your thumb out of your ass and releasing the stored energy there. I deal in renewables. I know the players, and your stories are total bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69024661 Netherlands 06/23/2015 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't let big oil hide this from you! Will self destruct in 24 hours...This is huge! You could make your own fuel at home cheaply. Quoting: Xeven Stanford University scientists have invented a low-cost water splitter that uses a single catalyst to produce both hydrogen and oxygen gas 24 hours a day, seven days a week. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] I don't suspect this will see the light of day. There was a company called Black Light Energy from New Jersey and they demonstrated a way of pulling humidity from the air to charge a electric cars battery. Also showed how with a small amount of water they could power huge buildings, guess what happen to them... How about the company that was taking garbage from dumps and turning it into higher grade oil then companies get from the ground? Again.. Mysteriously they vanished without a trace. How about the idea of pulling energy directly from the ground to power an entire modern day home, TV, fridge, washer & dryer, everything.. Do you always believe everything you read/find on the internet? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69541861 United States 06/23/2015 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article. At best, 83% efficiency. So you are somehow generating electricity and losing efficency there (mostly from fossil fuels and coal), turn losing 17% to make hydrogen, then losing some more to turn that hydrogen back into functional energy. A total waste of energy that would only ever make any economic sense with the benefit of massive taxpayer subsidies (like most renewables). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37804713 United States 06/23/2015 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't let big oil hide this from you! Will self destruct in 24 hours...This is huge! You could make your own fuel at home cheaply. Quoting: Xeven Stanford University scientists have invented a low-cost water splitter that uses a single catalyst to produce both hydrogen and oxygen gas 24 hours a day, seven days a week. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] I don't suspect this will see the light of day. There was a company called Black Light Energy from New Jersey and they demonstrated a way of pulling humidity from the air to charge a electric cars battery. Also showed how with a small amount of water they could power huge buildings, guess what happen to them... How about the company that was taking garbage from dumps and turning it into higher grade oil then companies get from the ground? Again.. Mysteriously they vanished without a trace. How about the idea of pulling energy directly from the ground to power an entire modern day home, TV, fridge, washer & dryer, everything.. Do you always believe everything you read/find on the internet? These were real companies that had real demos of their product. & No I don't believe everything I read or find on the internet. Yet there is a reason all the alternative energy companies keep getting shut down, bankrupted ect & it isn't always because it's just some crazy lie or hoax. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37804713 United States 06/23/2015 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >Blacklight Power Demo - Revolutionary Energy Source - Jan 2014< [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] >Earth Generator, Home size power plant build part 1< [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] >CleanPyro- Converting Landfill Plastic into Oil< |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69024661 Netherlands 06/23/2015 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37804713 >Blacklight Power Demo - Revolutionary Energy Source - Jan 2014< [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] >Earth Generator, Home size power plant build part 1< [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] >CleanPyro- Converting Landfill Plastic into Oil< ALL youtube videos, I rest my case. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69407910 United States 06/23/2015 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article. At best, 83% efficiency. So you are somehow generating electricity and losing efficency there (mostly from fossil fuels and coal), turn losing 17% to make hydrogen, then losing some more to turn that hydrogen back into functional energy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69541861 A total waste of energy that would only ever make any economic sense with the benefit of massive taxpayer subsidies (like most renewables). How much energy to pump oil from the ground? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69024661 Netherlands 06/23/2015 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article. At best, 83% efficiency. So you are somehow generating electricity and losing efficency there (mostly from fossil fuels and coal), turn losing 17% to make hydrogen, then losing some more to turn that hydrogen back into functional energy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69541861 A total waste of energy that would only ever make any economic sense with the benefit of massive taxpayer subsidies (like most renewables). How much energy to pump oil from the ground? Nowhere NEAR as much as the energy they get out of the oil they pumped out. |
Xeven (OP) User ID: 69407910 United States 06/23/2015 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article. At best, 83% efficiency. So you are somehow generating electricity and losing efficency there (mostly from fossil fuels and coal), turn losing 17% to make hydrogen, then losing some more to turn that hydrogen back into functional energy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69541861 A total waste of energy that would only ever make any economic sense with the benefit of massive taxpayer subsidies (like most renewables). How much energy to pump oil from the ground? Nowhere NEAR as much as the energy they get out of the oil they pumped out. Are you including the cost of catalytic converters in cars and all the other crap we pay for to use oil? Or you just making shit up in your mind? How bout 15 a gallon of gas? Wake up! [link to www.theenergycollective.com] Last Edited by Xeven on 06/23/2015 10:05 PM I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69352042 United States 06/23/2015 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't let big oil hide this from you! Will self destruct in 24 hours...This is huge! You could make your own fuel at home cheaply. Quoting: Xeven Stanford University scientists have invented a low-cost water splitter that uses a single catalyst to produce both hydrogen and oxygen gas 24 hours a day, seven days a week. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] I don't suspect this will see the light of day. What do you think will happen to this guy? Murdered, disappeared or bought off? (I certainly can't think of anything else.) Shot twice in the back of the head. Clearest case of suicide there is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69024661 Netherlands 06/23/2015 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article. At best, 83% efficiency. So you are somehow generating electricity and losing efficency there (mostly from fossil fuels and coal), turn losing 17% to make hydrogen, then losing some more to turn that hydrogen back into functional energy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69541861 A total waste of energy that would only ever make any economic sense with the benefit of massive taxpayer subsidies (like most renewables). How much energy to pump oil from the ground? Nowhere NEAR as much as the energy they get out of the oil they pumped out. Are you including the cost of catalytic converters in cars and all the other crap we pay for to use oil? Or you just making shit up in your mind? How bout 15 a gallon of gas? Wake up! [link to www.theenergycollective.com] You are full of shit OP and do not understand basic physics. But hey go for it. Split water into hydrogen and oxygen and see just how efficient it is for yourself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67594723 United States 06/23/2015 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Ohio man accomplished this very feat over ten years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32953596 In his garage. As soon as he publicized his work he got poisoned at a local restaurant and died. Don't bother trying to search it up, I doubt you'll find the story. Reno millionaire came up with a water based fuel in 99, heard the initial release of info, never heard about it again. Release will be controlled. |
Instant Karma User ID: 69469070 United States 06/23/2015 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not news, the problem being that the process is a net energy loser. Quoting: Shiva ascendant Do you mean : it runs on electricity, and you wind up with less energy as hydrogen than you originally had as electricity? Water is the byproduct of hydrogen combustion. So it takes the same or greater amount of energy to convert it back to its unburned state. Due to inefficiencies, it takes more energy than was released when it combusted. Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52410732 United States 06/23/2015 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have to do is find the resonant frequency to break the water molecule bonds and bingo.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52410732 And NOBODY has EVER tried to do THAT! Get real. Research Stanley Meyers, Ravi Raju, Mike Stizki and John Kanzius then come back and post - Tard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59547686 Netherlands 06/23/2015 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have to do is find the resonant frequency to break the water molecule bonds and bingo.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52410732 And NOBODY has EVER tried to do THAT! Get real. Research Stanley Meyers, Ravi Raju, Mike Stizki and John Kanzius then come back and post - Tard. I'm very familiar with all of them and NONE of them put out more energy than what was put in. Geeze you clowns will believe anything you read on the internet and you have the nerve to call ME a tard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52410732 United States 06/23/2015 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have to do is find the resonant frequency to break the water molecule bonds and bingo.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52410732 And NOBODY has EVER tried to do THAT! Get real. Research Stanley Meyers, Ravi Raju, Mike Stizki and John Kanzius then come back and post - Tard. I'm very familiar with all of them and NONE of them put out more energy than what was put in. Geeze you clowns will believe anything you read on the internet and you have the nerve to call ME a tard. No your not.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69150540 United States 06/23/2015 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They put a current (1.5v AA battery) on 2 wires, with a coating that allows the electrolysis process to occur much faster. Still, very little gas over time. That is, how much do you burn per minute while creating per minute? However -- I'd like to see a Baghdad Battery replace that 1.5v AA battery. Then, you could say you were "turning orange juice into hydrogen fuel" Sure, there's energy expelled collecting/juicing the oranges, but it'd still be cool. Similar to running an LCD clock off a potato. |