Amazing FACTS that most GLPers can't deal with "Why the WTC collapse" | |
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Enlightened George User ID: 121150 United States 09/09/2006 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thewebfairy.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3908B.4.1 Bolted Column End Plates Collapse of the WTC towers resulted in failure of many of the bolts in bolted end plate connections as the columns were subjected to large and unanticipated out-of-plane bending. In the majority of cases, the A325 high-strength bolts reached their tensile capacity and failed in the threaded stress area. The example shown in Figure B-7 examines the flexural capacity of the bolted end plate in a column in the impact area where the column plate thickness was 1/4 inch. Amazing no bombs just math Still doen't explain the freefall of the building that could ONLY happen due to controlled demolition. There would otherwise be the resistance factor that would have slowed down the collapse. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Our battle field is the mind, our weapon is truth and our shields are honor and courage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 138534 United States 09/09/2006 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thewebfairy.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3908B.4.1 Bolted Column End Plates Collapse of the WTC towers resulted in failure of many of the bolts in bolted end plate connections as the columns were subjected to large and unanticipated out-of-plane bending. In the majority of cases, the A325 high-strength bolts reached their tensile capacity and failed in the threaded stress area. The example shown in Figure B-7 examines the flexural capacity of the bolted end plate in a column in the impact area where the column plate thickness was 1/4 inch. Amazing no bombs just math amazing indeed out of plane bending yet the buildings fall straight down maintaining the perpendicular to hell with inertia (out of plane bending) amazing indeed |
Manticore User ID: 141572 United Kingdom 09/09/2006 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know, my instincts say it wasn't an inside job. I don't think the Bush administration could be so insidious as to engineer the destruction of those towers so that they would have an excuse to invade the Middle-East for oil. If they did go in just for oil, then it hasn't exactly benefited them. Over the past 5 years they've gained far more hatred than petroleum. However, it is possible that WTC 7 was intentionally demolished, the footage does look like a routine demolition. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79718 United States 09/09/2006 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know, my instincts say it wasn't an inside job. I don't think the Bush administration could be so insidious as to engineer the destruction of those towers so that they would have an excuse to invade the Middle-East for oil. If they did go in just for oil, then it hasn't exactly benefited them. Over the past 5 years they've gained far more hatred than petroleum. Quoting: ManticoreHowever, it is possible that WTC 7 was intentionally demolished, the footage does look like a routine demolition. Two counter points. 1.) If WTC7 was a lie, the whole thing is a lie 2.) read up on Operation Northwoods...they would...and they did...all documented through freedom of information act documents |
Manticore User ID: 141572 United Kingdom 09/09/2006 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1.) If WTC7 was a lie, the whole thing is a lie Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79718Not necessarily. The building was definitely on fire, so it could have been demolished to prevent the fire from spreading to nearby buildings and offices. |
sublight000 User ID: 90846 United States 09/09/2006 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thewebfairy.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3908B.4.1 Bolted Column End Plates Collapse of the WTC towers resulted in failure of many of the bolts in bolted end plate connections as the columns were subjected to large and unanticipated out-of-plane bending. In the majority of cases, the A325 high-strength bolts reached their tensile capacity and failed in the threaded stress area. The example shown in Figure B-7 examines the flexural capacity of the bolted end plate in a column in the impact area where the column plate thickness was 1/4 inch. Amazing no bombs just math YEP WTC # 7 Just got tired and sat down bolts and all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 141559 Canada 09/09/2006 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | your instincts blow I know this song Time to change the tune... IF THEY LIED ABOUT ONE THING ((WTC7)) THEY LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING PERIOD!!! ya they just so happend to have WW7 already wired for demolition (JUST IN CASE RIGHT!) or maybe they wired it for demolition while the fires raged inside !!!??? C'MON WHICH IS IT !!!!!!!!!!?????????????? I'M WAITING GODAMN IT. |
Hero8Unltd User ID: 141593 United States 09/09/2006 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn, I don't know if this would work but... Remember 'Jenga'? Built like a tower and you have to remove a brick piece by piece and if you make it topple over, you lose? Well, think about it. The Twin Towers were built sturdy and could withstand an airliner hitting them. Now, let's say you remove one brick near to the middle top left(Doesn't matter which side). It doesn't topple over. Remove middle top right brick very carefully. Doesn't topple over. That one middle brick represents the steel beams that is located within the Twin towers that helps the structure stand. Now start taking out the side pieces of the Jenga puzzle(Smoothly)from where you started down. Does not topple over eh? Now, just try to take down one of the middle pieces. Bam! It topples down. Of coarse, if you take down all the side pieces and keep going down, of coarse the whole tower will fall. The balance of the whole structure would topple...TOPPLE. However, the fires within the Twin Towers did not last as long as they should have or spread to enough floors in order to make the building come down the way it did. Then you have those steel beams in the center of the buildings' construction that had to be thick enough to be able to withstand not only the fire, but weight of the building. If one fails, the other struts adjust their weight so the whole building does not collapse on itself. I'm sticking to this theory. I'm not sure if explosives were used, I'm not sure the fires caused the building to come down the way it was supposed to. But that Jenga explanation, really does make you question what happened that day. Going to Save the World... Seriously. Join me! Be A Leader Of Your Destiny! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 120402 United States 09/09/2006 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thewebfairy.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3908B.4.1 Bolted Column End Plates Collapse of the WTC towers resulted in failure of many of the bolts in bolted end plate connections as the columns were subjected to large and unanticipated out-of-plane bending. In the majority of cases, the A325 high-strength bolts reached their tensile capacity and failed in the threaded stress area. "many of the bolts"?! all at the same time??!! uniformly so that 110 stories free fall????!!!!!! in both towers?????!!!!!??????!!!!!!! |
wake up User ID: 141599 United States 09/09/2006 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #7 fell EXACTLY LIKE THE OTHER TWO. NO DOUBT IN THE LEAST THAT #7 WAS DEMOLISHED. (unless your IQ is that of a chimp) anyone can watch the tapes and see the reality of it. watch the floors explode OUTWARD (can you see?) OUTWARD! about 3 floors ahead of the collapsing portion above. EXACTLY IN SEQUENCE. If you have not watched the tapes, you are simply IGNORING IT BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS TOO FRIGHTENING TO YOU |
sublight000 User ID: 90846 United States 09/09/2006 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have new ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 128638Why was the smoke so black and flames where not visibly lashing out the broken windows towards the oxygen in thw towers? The only thing that could possibly account for the towers comming down by heat is the blow torch effect. When I was a kid in science class we could melt glass with a candle and a straw. Under no circumstance could temps. surpass the energy available in the fuel. At its hottest there was no smoke at all. In short where there is smoke there is colder fire. You may well be on to something in this observation. It should be picked up by someone with the time to follow up. The more I think about this the more I believe this could be very important in telling the final tale. Smoke is unburned fire. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 124957 United States 09/10/2006 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1/4 inch thick is all???? No wonder the darn thing fell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83389The plates, and these are the exterior plates, were thicker at the base of the tower. This is why the NIST report is propaganda. The exterior plates DO NOT support the tower. It was the central core that supported the tower. The primary function of the exterior plating was to provide wind shear support. What NIST and other government agencies and those who support the government's story are attempting to do is convince people that the WTC towers were steel frame buildings and that the exterior plates are what held the towers up. The WTC towers were built on a central core and because they were, you could remove the exterior steel plates and the towers would not fall. The exterior plates were of modular construction linking 3 floors together (I think I erroneously said 2 floors in previous posts). What this did was to allow the towers to flex during high winds. If you study super hi-rise structures, you'll find that some use a counter-balance positioned on the roof, which is a gigantic weight that moves to and fro to counter balance the forces of wind. The WTC designers and architects decided to use steel plating rather than a counter-balance or other means to hand wind shear. The bottom line is that the government is unable to account for or explain the destruction of the central core, which is necessary in order to explain how the towers collapsed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 137330 United States 09/10/2006 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1/4 inch thick is all???? No wonder the darn thing fell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 124957The plates, and these are the exterior plates, were thicker at the base of the tower. This is why the NIST report is propaganda. The exterior plates DO NOT support the tower. It was the central core that supported the tower. The primary function of the exterior plating was to provide wind shear support. What NIST and other government agencies and those who support the government's story are attempting to do is convince people that the WTC towers were steel frame buildings and that the exterior plates are what held the towers up. The WTC towers were built on a central core and because they were, you could remove the exterior steel plates and the towers would not fall. The exterior plates were of modular construction linking 3 floors together (I think I erroneously said 2 floors in previous posts). What this did was to allow the towers to flex during high winds. If you study super hi-rise structures, you'll find that some use a counter-balance positioned on the roof, which is a gigantic weight that moves to and fro to counter balance the forces of wind. The WTC designers and architects decided to use steel plating rather than a counter-balance or other means to hand wind shear. The bottom line is that the government is unable to account for or explain the destruction of the central core, which is necessary in order to explain how the towers collapsed. yes, i think i read them say (by implication) that the outer columns were the support. i don't think that was so. plus, our local paper had a ground zero photo from a day or two after 911. it's hard to tell perspective, but few of the vehicles in the photo in the vicinity have visible damage. if a million tons fell without being in a state of dust, you would expect chunks of concrete, beams etc pulverizing the vehicles. yet some survivors were able to duck under vehicles - hence becoming survivors instead of victims. these same vehicles, though, were covered in dust. i have seen many steel beams, but one thing i haven't seen a lot of are chunks of concrete. given that material was being blown outwards as the collapse was underway, shouldn't at least a good number of chunks of concrete survived? i've seen plenty of ther dust, but where's the concrete? any photos of the concrete exist? |
Hero8Unltd User ID: 141855 United States 09/10/2006 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1/4 inch thick is all???? No wonder the darn thing fell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 137330The plates, and these are the exterior plates, were thicker at the base of the tower. This is why the NIST report is propaganda. The exterior plates DO NOT support the tower. It was the central core that supported the tower. The primary function of the exterior plating was to provide wind shear support. What NIST and other government agencies and those who support the government's story are attempting to do is convince people that the WTC towers were steel frame buildings and that the exterior plates are what held the towers up. The WTC towers were built on a central core and because they were, you could remove the exterior steel plates and the towers would not fall. The exterior plates were of modular construction linking 3 floors together (I think I erroneously said 2 floors in previous posts). What this did was to allow the towers to flex during high winds. If you study super hi-rise structures, you'll find that some use a counter-balance positioned on the roof, which is a gigantic weight that moves to and fro to counter balance the forces of wind. The WTC designers and architects decided to use steel plating rather than a counter-balance or other means to hand wind shear. The bottom line is that the government is unable to account for or explain the destruction of the central core, which is necessary in order to explain how the towers collapsed. yes, i think i read them say (by implication) that the outer columns were the support. i don't think that was so. plus, our local paper had a ground zero photo from a day or two after 911. it's hard to tell perspective, but few of the vehicles in the photo in the vicinity have visible damage. if a million tons fell without being in a state of dust, you would expect chunks of concrete, beams etc pulverizing the vehicles. yet some survivors were able to duck under vehicles - hence becoming survivors instead of victims. these same vehicles, though, were covered in dust. i have seen many steel beams, but one thing i haven't seen a lot of are chunks of concrete. given that material was being blown outwards as the collapse was underway, shouldn't at least a good number of chunks of concrete survived? i've seen plenty of ther dust, but where's the concrete? any photos of the concrete exist? Told ya. It's the 'Jenga' Effect. Going to Save the World... Seriously. Join me! Be A Leader Of Your Destiny! |
FARTMAN User ID: 141301 Australia 09/10/2006 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thewebfairy.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3908B.4.1 Bolted Column End Plates Collapse of the WTC towers resulted in failure of many of the bolts in bolted end plate connections as the columns were subjected to large and unanticipated out-of-plane bending. In the majority of cases, the A325 high-strength bolts reached their tensile capacity and failed in the threaded stress area. The example shown in Figure B-7 examines the flexural capacity of the bolted end plate in a column in the impact area where the column plate thickness was 1/4 inch. Amazing no bombs just math Yeah!.. And Santa clause still lives at the north pole with the Easter bunny and the Tooth fairy. Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!" Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids. "I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...? |
Ikaika User ID: 142000 United States 09/10/2006 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1.) If WTC7 was a lie, the whole thing is a lie Quoting: ManticoreNot necessarily. The building was definitely on fire, so it could have been demolished to prevent the fire from spreading to nearby buildings and offices. If the truth was that building seven was demolished to prevent fire from spreading, then why wasn't the truth told. I watched it collapse on live TV that day. They have a saying in Hawaii, now how does it go? Oh yeah, BULLSHIT. |
ZVisionQuest User ID: 959925 United States 05/03/2010 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1/4 inch thick is all???? No wonder the darn thing fell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 137330The plates, and these are the exterior plates, were thicker at the base of the tower. This is why the NIST report is propaganda. The exterior plates DO NOT support the tower. It was the central core that supported the tower. The primary function of the exterior plating was to provide wind shear support. What NIST and other government agencies and those who support the government's story are attempting to do is convince people that the WTC towers were steel frame buildings and that the exterior plates are what held the towers up. The WTC towers were built on a central core and because they were, you could remove the exterior steel plates and the towers would not fall. The exterior plates were of modular construction linking 3 floors together (I think I erroneously said 2 floors in previous posts). What this did was to allow the towers to flex during high winds. If you study super hi-rise structures, you'll find that some use a counter-balance positioned on the roof, which is a gigantic weight that moves to and fro to counter balance the forces of wind. The WTC designers and architects decided to use steel plating rather than a counter-balance or other means to hand wind shear. The bottom line is that the government is unable to account for or explain the destruction of the central core, which is necessary in order to explain how the towers collapsed. yes, i think i read them say (by implication) that the outer columns were the support. i don't think that was so. plus, our local paper had a ground zero photo from a day or two after 911. it's hard to tell perspective, but few of the vehicles in the photo in the vicinity have visible damage. if a million tons fell without being in a state of dust, you would expect chunks of concrete, beams etc pulverizing the vehicles. yet some survivors were able to duck under vehicles - hence becoming survivors instead of victims. these same vehicles, though, were covered in dust. i have seen many steel beams, but one thing i haven't seen a lot of are chunks of concrete. given that material was being blown outwards as the collapse was underway, shouldn't at least a good number of chunks of concrete survived? i've seen plenty of ther dust, but where's the concrete? any photos of the concrete exist? The Towers had counterbalance engineering... I believe it was exactly that, the mega-ton counterbalances giving way & dropping down through the floors that make it appear as though it is imploding upon itself. If you watch, the collapse begins at the very top of the buildings, where the counterbalances reside. |
Ho_Lee_Kao User ID: 896722 United States 05/03/2010 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thewebfairy.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3908B.4.1 Bolted Column End Plates Collapse of the WTC towers resulted in failure of many of the bolts in bolted end plate connections as the columns were subjected to large and unanticipated out-of-plane bending. In the majority of cases, the A325 high-strength bolts reached their tensile capacity and failed in the threaded stress area. The example shown in Figure B-7 examines the flexural capacity of the bolted end plate in a column in the impact area where the column plate thickness was 1/4 inch. Amazing no bombs just math |
guy369 User ID: 749772 Canada 05/03/2010 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is he really arguing this!? There's more evidence that ALL towers were taken down as a controlled demolition as opposed to evidence that it 'just happened like that' ...But wait, they tell us it just happens like that - we much follow!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 705796 Canada 05/03/2010 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know, my instincts say it wasn't an inside job. I don't think the Bush administration could be so insidious as to engineer the destruction of those towers so that they would have an excuse to invade the Middle-East for oil. If they did go in just for oil, then it hasn't exactly benefited them. Over the past 5 years they've gained far more hatred than petroleum. Quoting: ManticoreHowever, it is possible that WTC 7 was intentionally demolished, the footage does look like a routine demolition. wrong website my friend. You might have more luck at www.glennbeck.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 900491 Canada 05/03/2010 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thewebfairy.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3908B.4.1 Bolted Column End Plates Collapse of the WTC towers resulted in failure of many of the bolts in bolted end plate connections as the columns were subjected to large and unanticipated out-of-plane bending. In the majority of cases, the A325 high-strength bolts reached their tensile capacity and failed in the threaded stress area. The example shown in Figure B-7 examines the flexural capacity of the bolted end plate in a column in the impact area where the column plate thickness was 1/4 inch. Amazing no bombs just math ... which caused the entire length of the steel frame towers of WTC 2, 1 AND 7 to disintegrate, self-ignite and melt at 2000 degrees F. If this is true, all buildings, bridges, ships, planes, cars, trains, etc. that are build from USA made or UL approved steel should be immediately condemned and demolished for safety's sake and internation sanctions placed upon the sale of US made (thermate-based) steel products. If true, then clearly US steel products are the most dangerously inferior in the ENTIRE world. Furthermore, if this is true, all US-based and trained architects, engineers, scientists, metalurgists, etc. should be stripped of their credentials and permanently sanctioned from exercising their trade. For clearly, based on the monumental and unprecidented failure of ALL THREE WTC towers, US educated professionals and dangerously inept and just plain stupid. Luckily for US Steel makers, UL and engineering professionals, their steel and engineering DID NOT FAIL as falsely suggested here previously. AND THEY KNOW THIS TO BE A FACT BETTER THAN ANYONE!!! [link to cms.ae911truth.org] |
Catseye User ID: 959778 Dominican Republic 05/03/2010 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thewebfairy.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 120402B.4.1 Bolted Column End Plates Collapse of the WTC towers resulted in failure of many of the bolts in bolted end plate connections as the columns were subjected to large and unanticipated out-of-plane bending. In the majority of cases, the A325 high-strength bolts reached their tensile capacity and failed in the threaded stress area. "many of the bolts"?! all at the same time??!! uniformly so that 110 stories free fall????!!!!!! in both towers?????!!!!!??????!!!!!!! And what about the lower floors? It's like this idiot already knows it's crap, he says "in the majority of cases". The lower floors weren't "bent" or burned, why did those bolts fail - symmetrically, uniformly and in perfect succession ALL THE WAY DOWN so that the towers, BOTH of them, fell straight down without buckling or tilting? Other buildings in other places have burned for hours and the steel did not come down. Never mind the exact explanation, we don't know, but while you were watching them fall, didn't the whole thing look a bit odd? And a bit "timed" when they finally began to fall? They should not have fallen down because they got hit by planes. This is really your whole argument to the truthers? Bolts? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 959611 United States 05/03/2010 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most Truthers are nowhere close to reaching the Truth. The REAL conspiracy behind 9/11 [link to www.youtube.com] Focusing on symptoms, rather than root causes, is unlikely to fix the underlying problems which make the symptoms possible. "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." ~Henry Thoreau |