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TPP Investment Chapter Leaked, Details International Court for Corporations to Sue States for Taxpayer Money

 
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07/01/2015 04:20 PM
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If everyone decided to STOP PAYING TAXES. That'll fck em up real good.
And it'll remind them, who really runs things.
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I have been saying this forever. It is the ONLY thing TPTB see us as. It is also all they care about.
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Do you really think it would matter, the US runs on a deficit, and with all the debt ceiling shit and ability to print money, this train would keep going and they will come get their money and take your freedom!!

We are fucked!!!
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07/01/2015 04:32 PM
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The states should refuse to pay and rebel. That is corporate tyranny.
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If everyone decided to STOP PAYING TAXES. That'll fck em up real good.
And it'll remind them, who really runs things.
 Quoting: JustChilling


I've been telling people of GLP and elsewhere (for years now) to just stop paying federal taxes !! Stop "feeding the beast" and let it die.

I have also advised everyone to continue to support their state by paying taxes, but now I'm wondering if that is a good idea.... with these new laws ?
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Problem is that they can steal your money via inflation by just printing more. As long as you are using money they create, they got you by the balls.
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If everyone decided to STOP PAYING TAXES. That'll fck em up real good.
And it'll remind them, who really runs things.
 Quoting: JustChilling


I have been saying this forever. It is the ONLY thing TPTB see us as. It is also all they care about.
 Quoting: Distant Perception 42458605


coming around to this view.
Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell
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If everyone decided to STOP PAYING TAXES. That'll fck em up real good.
And it'll remind them, who really runs things.
 Quoting: JustChilling


I have been saying this forever. It is the ONLY thing TPTB see us as. It is also all they care about.
 Quoting: Distant Perception 42458605


coming around to this view.
 Quoting: beeches


Sometime in the 80s or very early 90s there were a couple of young gentlemen (30-ish) on a morning news talk show (GMA or the like) that had written a book about how you do NOT have to pay taxes, and how to go about NOT paying taxes legally. It was quite believable. I've since over the years tried to ferret out who they were but to no avail. Never saw them again after that airing.

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Looks like it's ALL on the backs of the taxpayers.

Time to stop payin or start livin somewhere else.
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If everyone decided to STOP PAYING TAXES. That'll fck em up real good.
And it'll remind them, who really runs things.
 Quoting: JustChilling


I have been saying this forever. It is the ONLY thing TPTB see us as. It is also all they care about.
 Quoting: Distant Perception 42458605


coming around to this view.
 Quoting: beeches
old farmer told me once we are the cows. They just milk us dry and then send us to the butcher.
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07/01/2015 05:13 PM
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I suppose cattle would be a better analogy than sheep
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I think it's more about patent protection, specifically the pharmaceutical industry (one of the richest, most influential lobbyist).

Gilead's controversial Hep C wonder-drug, which costs around $1,000 a pill, was forced to mark down the price for India consumers by 99%. The government was willing to turn a blind eye to patent infringements because of Gilead's excessive mark up on a potentially game changing drug.

Now, I guess a corp. could sue and force payment of damages onto a country. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I think your BP oil spill comparison is off.
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I think it's more about patent protection, specifically the pharmaceutical industry (one of the richest, most influential lobbyist).

Gilead's controversial Hep C wonder-drug, which costs around $1,000 a pill, was forced to mark down the price for India consumers by 99%. The government was willing to turn a blind eye to patent infringements because of Gilead's excessive mark up on a potentially game changing drug.

Now, I guess a corp. could sue and force payment of damages onto a country. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I think your BP oil spill comparison is off.
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I hope to God you are right, AC.
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Lil Sis

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I've hammered my senators so hard on this one that they have reverted to sending the standard form letters again. For years, I've gotten personal responses for most of my questions, but they have gotten tired of my growling about their support for TPA/TPP. I will hit them again, right now, this is BIG!
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With all due respect, and I mean that, I think that the effectiveness of phone calls has really dwindled to a trickle, and the Senators are totally committed to serving their masters, whoever they may be. There is little left for the citizens but trivial constituency services, sending flags that have flown over the Capitol to 6th grade classes, and the like.

A lot of us will continue to keep up the charade, but DC should be aware that a lot of their constituents are collecting feathers and buying up tar.
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Central bank control.

Pure and simple.

Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans.....

Money for nothing.

Bankers are the power...but they create nothing.

They probably can not satisfy a woman they are so physically weak.
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07/01/2015 06:34 PM
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I've hammered my senators so hard on this one that they have reverted to sending the standard form letters again. For years, I've gotten personal responses for most of my questions, but they have gotten tired of my growling about their support for TPA/TPP. I will hit them again, right now, this is BIG!
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


With all due respect, and I mean that, I think that the effectiveness of phone calls has really dwindled to a trickle, and the Senators are totally committed to serving their masters, whoever they may be. There is little left for the citizens but trivial constituency services, sending flags that have flown over the Capitol to 6th grade classes, and the like.

A lot of us will continue to keep up the charade, but DC should be aware that a lot of their constituents are collecting feathers and buying up tar.
 Quoting: Lil Sis


I have been hitting them with a solid barrage by e-mail and fax. Since the worthless ass-hats started responding with form letters, I've slowed to about two a week. Everything I send goes both ways, just in case it's true that faxes get preferential treatment.
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We had threads a while Bach showing where DHS was given full ownership authority of ALL pension funds, 401ks etc.

They already used up the federal pension funds, & most states (that ARE all corporations, as well as incorporated city's, towns) are on verge of insolvency.. They others from other nations but them up in bankruptcy sales in essence.. China banks bought up many USA cities, towns etc.. As well as all major west coast ports, and utility company's nation wide.

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Wait - what? I could see something happening to the money my employer contributed to my 401k, but would the money I put into my 401k also be seized? I'm trying to search for the threads, can you share the link if you have it?
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I think it's more about patent protection, specifically the pharmaceutical industry (one of the richest, most influential lobbyist).

Gilead's controversial Hep C wonder-drug, which costs around $1,000 a pill, was forced to mark down the price for India consumers by 99%. The government was willing to turn a blind eye to patent infringements because of Gilead's excessive mark up on a potentially game changing drug.

Now, I guess a corp. could sue and force payment of damages onto a country. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I think your BP oil spill comparison is off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69146831


This is a big part of it. People ordering their medications from India are often paying less than 10% of what they would pay to American Pharmaceuticals. Now, the big Pharma in the US will be able to penalize the State and likely the individual patient for drugs still under patent---and they keep the patent going on profitable drugs by adding something like "controlled release" to the drug. it's a scam. Lots of drugs with patents that should have run out years ago. And the old $4 drugs get "orphaned" and then re-released with new "studies" proving their effectiveness, and a price that is 20 X what it was.
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