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I worked running fiber. If you cut at strategic locations, you can knock out all kinds of service. Had to replace lines asap because of something similar. The airport was affected as well as 911 services. You get a few guys that know where the hubs are...not good. Or a few guys with some hooks and cable cutters that got a hold of some blue prints...not good. Our arial lines are sooo very vulnerable. All those lines run down the pole, and all you have to do is unscrew the lag bolts to the cable guards...chop. Service out. I'm not surprised at all that this is occurring.
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Just out of curiosity, when the lines are cut and then are spliced back together, is there any chance that an item or part that is used during the repair process that is hard to get?

Basically, are they trying to use up part inventory so that when something major happens there will not be enough of those parts.
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Hmmm...
Cover story for test of Barry's kill switch?
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Well, after having Charter out here to install new services...based on the THREE THUGS that came to do the work...I wouldn't even be surprised to hear it's all an "inside job". These guys were approaching scary. Can we all say "revenge". Crap.

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a test would kill it; the entire system is that fragile.
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Sacramento...

Wave Broadband service restored after 'deliberate act'

[link to www.kcra.com]

I live in the Bay Area in Concord and my Wave Broadband was interrupted last night AND the night before, late in the evening (around 10 PM) both nights.

I'm not saying any of this is connected. I'm just putting the information out there.
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I saw this headline this morning, and it gave me chills.

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For the 11th Time Within a Year, a Fiber Optic Cable Has Been Intentionally Cut in California
Jul. 1, 2015 8:44am Liz Klimas
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The latest attack was discovered Tuesday morning in Livermore, California, joining other attacks dating back to July 6, 2014. [link to www.fbi.gov (secure)]
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FBI Special Agent Greg Wuthrich told USA Today [link to www.usatoday.com] that the attacks are “disturbing” and called for public assistance in reporting any suspicious activity.
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* June 8, 2015, 11:00 p.m. near Danville Blvd. and Rudgear Road in Alamo
* June 8, 2015, 11:40 p.m. near Overacker Ave and Mowry Ave in Fremont
* June 9, 2015, 1:38 p.m. near Jones Road and Parkside Dr. in Walnut Creek
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The FBI also stated that it does not believe these cases of vandalism are connected with the 2013 sniper attack [link to www.theblaze.com] on a PG&E’s Metcalf Transmission Substation.


Ok.. looking at all of the information that I gathered from other Threads.... Here is the pattern.

All this centers around the main arterial of the heart of California. From the 'practice' at the Power Station that was a rehearsal. To cutting the fiber optics cables. No one is thinking about Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory that sits right there. You want to think about all of the things that Laboratory works on? Think about what could 'escape' from there.

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I worked running fiber. If you cut at strategic locations, you can knock out all kinds of service. Had to replace lines asap because of something similar. The airport was affected as well as 911 services. You get a few guys that know where the hubs are...not good. Or a few guys with some hooks and cable cutters that got a hold of some blue prints...not good. Our arial lines are sooo very vulnerable. All those lines run down the pole, and all you have to do is unscrew the lag bolts to the cable guards...chop. Service out. I'm not surprised at all that this is occurring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23061891


Just out of curiosity, when the lines are cut and then are spliced back together, is there any chance that an item or part that is used during the repair process that is hard to get?

Basically, are they trying to use up part inventory so that when something major happens there will not be enough of those parts.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

To me, the problem would be the storage loops. Those tear drop loops you see mid span are there in case there is some damage done to a particular spot. They can take that slack out of those loops and feed it down to damaged area. If the line is cut on the out side on both sides of those loops, chances are, the whole fiber will have to be replaced and that takes some time. Just enough time though for people who have other nefarious plans that will coincide with such an action. Like a two pronged attack. Cut out communications, then coordinate another type of an attack to further the chaos.
As far as splicing, it can take several hours, depending on the fiber count. But you can't splice if you don't have two ends that reach other to splice. I hope that answers your question. :)
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10 pm news out of Fresno, Ca. Lost their computers on air. You could tell it was awkward, went to commercial. Then had a live reporter talk to someone about the weather since they could still air that. The good ole days without a teleprompter are long gone.

Had issues at work with internet services yesterday. Comcast said they are having problems all over the place and it was very unusual.
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10 pm news out of Fresno, Ca. Lost their computers on air. You could tell it was awkward, went to commercial. Then had a live reporter talk to someone about the weather since they could still air that. The good ole days without a teleprompter are long gone.

Had issues at work with internet services yesterday. Comcast said they are having problems all over the place and it was very unusual.
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interesting

thank you for the report!
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Thanks for the pin...first for me. I hope this is just dumb asses.
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And I'm certain that people who had satellite internet had NO service interruptions.
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When their morale meets their morals to the negative spectrum percentage call me back..


To me it reads : professionals war criminals morale hits new lower... Sick!

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This reminds me of those Russians caught outside of a power plant about to cut things up.

Thread: Russians caught outside Georgia Power plant with wire cutters, machete, shovel

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It also reminds me of the PG&E MetCalf sniper attack / coordinated terror attack against a power substation.



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It also reminds me of the bomb that exploded at the Arizona power plant.



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It reminds me of the Oklahoma Power Station Attack that caused a blackout.



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And if you've never seen when a power grid or a powerstation goes sideways... this is what it looks like:

Power Grid going crazy in Forth Worth, TX:





and the Escanaba Power Plant that went crazy in Michigan:



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Our communication and power grid seem to be a bit vulnerable. We need to invest in that Wireless Nikola Tesla brand energy and comm.s as soon as we can. hf
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All these events are inside jobs, Viktor Suverov called these the "overture"...

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If people only knew how easy a coordinated effort to bring cellular service down across a region you would shit your pants. Our infrastructure is vulnerable beyond your imagination.
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nobody on this thread has done their homework.....
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nobody on this thread has done their homework.....
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Really? I live on fiber optics pal.
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Damn, what are they going to do for their gay porn now.
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Go to main street and watch the parade.
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Ask a copy to your sons collection on usb sticks or dvd
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And I'm certain that people who had satellite internet had NO service interruptions.
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Roger that.
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FWIW a small town here in north Indiana was without landline and cell service for 12 hrs due to a cut fiber optic cable. This happened last Friday. Both went down at the same time. The closer you got to town the less signal you got. It was out for about a mile radius outside of town.
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What town, please?
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Fbi canceled vacation. Now fiber optics cut.
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Fbi canceled vacation. Now fiber optics cut.
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Sucks for people that need there super high speed porn! Like me :(
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Now that I was forced into VOIP,the first big storm comes along and I have no phones or net for three fucking days! My old copper lines that provided me with reliable phone service for 40 years and internet for over 20 is now obsolete and fiber optic is its replacement. Fucking assholes!
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I worked running fiber. If you cut at strategic locations, you can knock out all kinds of service. Had to replace lines asap because of something similar. The airport was affected as well as 911 services. You get a few guys that know where the hubs are...not good. Or a few guys with some hooks and cable cutters that got a hold of some blue prints...not good. Our arial lines are sooo very vulnerable. All those lines run down the pole, and all you have to do is unscrew the lag bolts to the cable guards...chop. Service out. I'm not surprised at all that this is occurring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23061891


Just out of curiosity, when the lines are cut and then are spliced back together, is there any chance that an item or part that is used during the repair process that is hard to get?

Basically, are they trying to use up part inventory so that when something major happens there will not be enough of those parts.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

To me, the problem would be the storage loops. Those tear drop loops you see mid span are there in case there is some damage done to a particular spot. They can take that slack out of those loops and feed it down to damaged area. If the line is cut on the out side on both sides of those loops, chances are, the whole fiber will have to be replaced and that takes some time. Just enough time though for people who have other nefarious plans that will coincide with such an action. Like a two pronged attack. Cut out communications, then coordinate another type of an attack to further the chaos.
As far as splicing, it can take several hours, depending on the fiber count. But you can't splice if you don't have two ends that reach other to splice. I hope that answers your question. :)
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Thank you, that more than answered my question. That was kinda of what I was afraid of. Not necessarily there being a lack of parts, but instead once the drop loops are used there is no "extra" fiber left in case there is a disruption somewhere along that particular fiber cable. End result is the same, wasting resources (by using the drop loops) until the entire fiber line needs to be replaced.
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FWIW a small town here in north Indiana was without landline and cell service for 12 hrs due to a cut fiber optic cable. This happened last Friday. Both went down at the same time. The closer you got to town the less signal you got. It was out for about a mile radius outside of town.
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What town, please?
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Three towns actually. Decatur, Berne, and Monroeville.
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I worked running fiber. If you cut at strategic locations, you can knock out all kinds of service. Had to replace lines asap because of something similar. The airport was affected as well as 911 services. You get a few guys that know where the hubs are...not good. Or a few guys with some hooks and cable cutters that got a hold of some blue prints...not good. Our arial lines are sooo very vulnerable. All those lines run down the pole, and all you have to do is unscrew the lag bolts to the cable guards...chop. Service out. I'm not surprised at all that this is occurring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23061891


Just out of curiosity, when the lines are cut and then are spliced back together, is there any chance that an item or part that is used during the repair process that is hard to get?

Basically, are they trying to use up part inventory so that when something major happens there will not be enough of those parts.
 Quoting: TeamReaper

To me, the problem would be the storage loops. Those tear drop loops you see mid span are there in case there is some damage done to a particular spot. They can take that slack out of those loops and feed it down to damaged area. If the line is cut on the out side on both sides of those loops, chances are, the whole fiber will have to be replaced and that takes some time. Just enough time though for people who have other nefarious plans that will coincide with such an action. Like a two pronged attack. Cut out communications, then coordinate another type of an attack to further the chaos.
As far as splicing, it can take several hours, depending on the fiber count. But you can't splice if you don't have two ends that reach other to splice. I hope that answers your question. :)
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There have been a couple of incidents near here recently in which long sections of fiber cable were cut out and taken.

I assumed it was meth heads thinking they could sell it for scrap...but maybe not.
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My husband works for Verizon west coast on the landline side doing building services.. he has had a lot of his building that have always been very stable suddenly going haywire. Building AC's are down and the phone line switch is heating up, some almost to a danger level of frying... He has been out all week trying to repair and restore what ever has happened..
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Attackers sever fiber-optic cables in San Francisco area, latest in a string

[link to www.usatoday.com]

"Someone deliberately severed two AT&T fiber optic cables in the Livermore, Calif. Monday night, the latest in a string of attacks against the Internet's privately run backbone.

AT&T is offering a $250,000 reward in connection with the latest attacks. AT&T's fiber optic network is legally considered a critical piece of the nation's Internet infrastructure, and any attackers are subject to both state and federal prosecution. The FBI already has an open investigation into 14 similar attacks on California Internet backbones since last summer."

Back in the news. They're definitely probing us hehe.
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I'm on century link phone and internet.Last week phone worked but internet was down 3 whole days.Businesses were shutting down on kind of it. I know they said those submarines had deep water cable cutting equipment. Made me think it a possibility.
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I'm on century link phone and internet.Last week phone worked but internet was down 3 whole days.Businesses were shutting down on kind of it. I know they said those submarines had deep water cable cutting equipment. Made me think it a possibility.
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In or near SF? If not what state?
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bump

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:bump;

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This is an interesting article from 2008 about Iran/USA relations and a cable incident

[link to www.cnet.com]

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