Has any Christian discovered the Kingdom of God?

It is also a very real Kingdom that will be set up on this earth (Revelation 21).

I'm nobody. I'm nameless. I'm not special. Just like all others before me and those currently here, we are blips in a fractured cosmos. Sparkling sand on a massive beach that slowly swallows us all. Grateful for the chance to absorb the light of creation.

There is a grand creator though...but you and I are not Him. Don't ruin it by insisting you're more important than the other grains of sand.

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This is how to get there.

Here is the Journal of George Fox, (Founder of the Society of Friends - later called Quakers - 17th century).

In it, he describes what it is like to be translated into paradise, (even passing through the flaming swords).

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How do you describe love? Love that you receive from someone and you know is real and unwavering and permanent and will never be withdrawn; love that you know is so completely undeserved that your heart hurts and makes you weep uncontrollably? How do you describe a love that you feel in return that is so profound that it becomes difficult to breathe because of the emotions in that moment. That IS the Kingdom of God as much as a mortal human being can experience, internally. There is no mortal person that can love and accept you so completely without reservation.

How do you describe a friendship so deep and solid that you know there is nothing you could ever have done in your life that would drive them away and break the bond of friendship you have. A friendship with someone who knows every single one of those bad things you did and is still willing to be your best friend and forgive all of it anyway!

It is that set of conditions which allow you to see everything with totally different perspective. What do you see when you look at a newborn baby, smell a beautiful flower, view a landscape in person that you've only seen in pictures before. Rather than the kingdom, I see God or at least His handywork because they are more than just things to look at and acknowledge. They are miraculous parts of creation.

It is a totally unique experience that for the most part defies description and reason, but it is just the same!

One's description of their experience of the Kingdom of God or Kingdom of Heaven depends on your definition of what you believe the Kingdom of God to be. The Kingdom of God in one context is the system which God will put in place when He arrives here. Unfortunately, experiencing the Kingdom of God or the Kingdom of Heaven isn't something you can really understand without experiencing for yourself. Experiencing it vicariously doesn't work!

The Kingdom of God in the context you're talking about is for me a way of feeling about everything. By reading & studying scripture, it causes me to feel (for lack of a better term) immersed or surrounded by the spirit of God. In those moments, which grow in duration over time and practice, it becomes easy to discern influences of good and evil. You can kind of "read" situations and people and just know whether God or Satan is the one responsible. In the process, you can then make better decisions about how to conduct yourself. I have found that I can attribute many situations where I should have been physically injured or worse, but was not due to the "hand of God" or at least a "Guardian angel" assigned to me. Can I prove it? NO, but I am convinced the odds of it being anything else are outside the realm of probability. I don't believe in coincidences.

You say you don't want ..."deferment to having to "give my life to Jesus" to find out."... my initial reaction to that was...what do you want to do test drive being a Christian before you "decide" whether you actually want to "be" one??? You act like that's a bad thing or that you would have to give stuff up to do it. You don't. You develop, you try to emulate Christ in your actions and thoughts. The spirit is there always; whether you listen for it remains to be seen. Being led is more like acting with new, better instincts, talking to people you wouldn't normally. Giving a homeless guy your jacket because you suddenly feel it's what you should do right now. Posting a much longer than normal reply to someone about a religious topic because it feels right to do it.Resisting the temptation to call somebody a jerk because you now realize that there may well be a reason the person is acting that way. That's being led by the Spirit.

Regarding your give my life to Jesus comment; You don't just decide I'm gonna be or I'm not gonna be! You come to a realization that:

A. God is in fact real
B. He created the universe
C. The Bible really is the inspired word of God, given to men to commit to written form. As such it is completely authoritative.
D. Jesus Christ was and is real. He was born, lived taught, died horribly and was resurrected from death. This to pay the price for our sins so we could be with God as His children.
E. There are not many paths to God or Heaven. The is one and only one and it is through Jesus Christ.
F. You decide that you really cannot do this life on your own, by your own hand, by your own intellect regardless of how smart you believe yourself to be! You figure out that the only way forward is to give up. Not on life, but give up your life to God. You still make decisions and choices but God will show you when you are going the way He wants for you. Like a good father, He wants only the very best for you.

I've seen this bear out time and time and time again. If you let Him drive the bus, it'll be a whole lot better, more productive, pleasant trip and you're guaranteed to get where you were wanting to go..

There are facts and evidences of various kinds to support all this but I've already gone way long. I hope I've helped you.

One way that the Kingdom manifests within you is like the computer on star trek. You can talk to the Kingdom. You can ask it questions and it will answer you according to God's Word.

It can also be called the Realm.

Try it!

Me114

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"the kingdom of God is among you"


It is the place we live, the space where the stars burn, the place where a child is born, the place where a weddings occurs, the place where we smile just before sleep. The small space where your heart beats with love.


Where there is life, there among life is the Kingdom of God.


Anyone can find it, they just need to open their eyes to what is in front of them since birth.



No matter how good or bad one is, they are citizens of God's Kingdom.

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The Hebrews coming out of Egypt had to agree to make YHVH Lord before reading or hearing ANY of the Commandments or requirements.

The kingdom of god is NOT among you.. it is WITHIN YOU and is discovered when the god seeking person does meditation and has a communication with his indwelling Father Fragment .

Luke never met Jesus.. he was a student of the confused Paul... and then there are always translation errors and deliberate corruption.

You are made in the image of god because you are supposed to have God thinking MIND.. .any of you who are followers and copy paste your bullshit taught in churches and in many places in the bible.. have not become free thinkers. Follows give their power over to others and you ones who label any religion are thus not free thinkers. If you still "believe" in hell fire.. rapture.. the Christian church which Jesus never started.. and the rest of the rot you are not thinkers yet.

NO and NORE NO.... IT IS YOUR FATHER INDWELT MIND.

And when two or more REALIZE and act on that.. then God is present in his name in two or more... There are a lot of unheavnily acts on this world where Heaven is not present.

Yes, I have. It's almost impossible to explain, but after having experienced it, I understood what Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and all the mystics were trying to tell us. That we are all one, and we are all connected.

It's so difficult to explain, but imagine the most love you have ever felt, and then muliply it by a zillion. Imagine being hit by a wall of love so strong, it could knock you down. Imagine seeing and knowing everything in the universe, all at once.

it's amazing. It's beautiful. It's a mystical experience. But it's almost impossible to exlpain, because how can you explain a 10 dimensional experience using a language meant for a 3 dimensional world?

It's like trying to explain colors to someone who is colorblind.

After my experiences with not just Christian mysticism, but also other religions, I understood that most of the bible stories were parables, with deeper symbolic meanings. I understood the Koran. I understood Buddha's teachings. I understood everything.

(And then I forgot it. Lol.)

I understood how you can do miracles in that state of mind, because when you are connected to everything, you are a part of everything, it's like wiggling your pinky finger.

Anyway, not trying to brag, but it's happened to me so many times, I can't even count them. But I also have temporal lobe epilepsy, and they think that many of the the mystics and the prophets also had temporal lobe epilepsy, because thoese types of seizures also cause mystical experiences.

So is it God, or is it epilepsy? Or is epilepsy the way God speaks to us?

Hmmm. Food for thought.

God´s love is tough one in this world. No wonder though, with all the prophets and the Son killed ...

what i said

It is with in you and with out end. It is a place and a spiritual thing you can feel it, you know it, and some day will see it, The Kingdom is part of you or you will have a hard time finding it. The Lord God, is the light of it no, sun no moon need there, it is a home in Glory. There a place for all that come to him but he does not want you until you want him.

The place is called Gods beautiful mountain, yes his Mountain with a place in it for all. Earth is a shadow of Heaven, a description of the Place where the Lord God lives. We on earth look at the beauty of nature the flower in bloom the trees the animals and all The Lord Made, but it is a dull comparison to Gods Holy mountain, and the homes he has prepared for us.

So, it is in you and with out not where you can see with your eyes, though there is times you see, it is always there in your heart, you can not forget it. I know all that believed before and he made before us are all there. Just imagine all the people that you will meet in that glorious place someday.

Do you really believe all he has created went forgotten? He has plenty of room with lots of views.

I am not insisting I'm more important. Have you not read any of the words I'm saying? I'm saying we are all equally important, because ultimately we are all the same *thing*. God. All of us. I have NOTHING special as compared to anyone else. The only difference is that I know it, which is amazing and wonderful, but also frustrating because all of the other parts of me out there are still so fast asleep.

I can tell you that what you're experienced is being experienced by many, many people now. Many people who don't have temporal lobe epilepsy. Your epilepsy may be a grace, because it shows you what's true on the other side of your mind. But there are many who see it, too, and epilepsy isn't the culprit. So take heart. <3

I can't touch your soul. Your mind, on the other hand, that believes *it's* the soul, that believes it knows what's up, that needs taking down a peg or two.

But ultimately, I'm speaking to the deeper part of all of you, that which is asleep, believing it's a person with all of these problems and self concerns and judgments and hypocrisy. I'm speaking to that which believes all of the nonsense the mind offers up, hoping that somewhere, that will start to rouse and see the truth of itself. I can't touch your soul, but I can sound a tiny little wake up alarm. Whether or not you hit snooze, though, is up to you.

Yet you create bait threads and demand proof from others of "impossible" things. Are you Alice in Wonderland?

Malicious intent, as another poster declared you to have.

I didn't demand proof of impossible things. I asked for personal testimony. How is that malicious? I am looking for one Christian who has REALIZED the truth of Christ's teachings, and while one person who identifies as Christian has obviously come very, very close - and probably has to the fullest extent that their knowledge allows - no one else that calls themselves a Christian has. I'm collecting data for use by something else entirely. It's time to assess what works and what doesn't work.

If Jesus' teachings don't work to the point where his followers actually experience what he was trying to teach them to experience, then it's time to assess whether it's the fault of the followers or of the teacher's words.

it is simple you do not miss anything, as you already found the Kingdom within, and as you stay in it you can see it revealed to you in the outer reflection called life.

and when you speak from that place you have the Power of the Word. So maybe it's time to start using it, instead of trying to reason with those who deny without both right or knowledge the Truth you Know intimately.

Also, when you speak Truth grounded in the Kingdom within, anyone who has found it, will feel it, and will not try to instill doubts, or fear or who knows what.

Also by staying in it, you will distinguish the nature of spirits speaking through the hearts and minds of men. And according to your predilection seek out the good spirits and empower them with your soul so they can shine stronger, as for the others...at least don't get caught in their various tricks :)

Data mining under false pretenses is malicious. But above you discount all personal testimony even as you solicit it, for none of it will be in your mind.

Who are you to judge the teachings of Jesus? Judge first your own mind and find the failings within. God will send testimony for the rest.

Thank you. You taught me something valuable about how to look within with more of the wholeness that I am. That is always appreciated.

My pretenses were never false. Your assumptions are faulty.

I'm not judging the teachings of Jesus, I am knowing the tree by its fruit.

Christianity is only a Ladder. Once you take the leap of faith off the top rung you cannot turn around. You cannot go back. Not even to anything you ever were before.

The you live to NOT "See" anymore even though the Presence is so great and beyond any means of communicating this to others.

But I will say that I find your distinction about those who speak from the Kingdom to not instill doubts. Finding the Kingdom requires the most infinite of doubts, you must doubt everything in this world, and it's my experience that the words "from" the Kingdom will attempt to instill these doubts when it finds it most appropriate.

Being one who brings Truth isn't any easy job, nor is it always particularly fun. If I were any more a person, I would call myself a martyr, really. Luckily, I am not any more a person, so it doesn't stain.

Okay. This is something I was *really* hoping to see. This gives me joy, to see someone speak like this who comes from a background of Christianity.

Did you leap off the top rung?

If so, what happened next to your beliefs? What happened to your belief in *you* as a separate being?

as for the personal story
first, Chirst appeared in dreamstate, i went to my personal judgement. At first my lower-self kept defending saying he never did anything worng (which was thorugh in the sense that it didn't do that in an active way). But i/he ended in aknsoledging my/his sin, that is i hadn't done anything that i could've done for what was my true ideal of universal love. That being said my ego accepted the sentence. Christ waved down his hand and all became a wall of fire that i was thinking is death and i was waiting to see what's next. But to my surprise the fire curtain disappeared to let mee see the true reality that stands behind this one. And it was similar, just that full of green and the feeling Love is the only ruler of the land.

Then six years later, the full revelation happened this time in full bodily consciousness, the ego died and was reborn through the power of the soul, and as a result The Kingdom within or the kingdom of the soul was fully established, while the lower-self/ego became eternally graceful and obedient to the Soul King

After this inner alchemy, which took place in probably the highest plane which an individual consciousness can grasp here, above staying only that divine light of infinite power and love that can banish all darkness in an instant outside of time, and which had finally revealed to that part in me that searched for it all its life, this alchemy worked through the lower bodies in the next couple of years

yes, in my case also required the most infinite of doubts :) But those doubts concerned my own question regarding the existence of said Kingdom. However infinite they were, they never prompted me in judging somebody who spoke his soul, but only in seeing through all those who pretended to know some absolute truth, which i was long past in that insane endless search prompted by that infinite doubt :)

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