Does anyone here still take the Noah's Ark story literally?

The "wailing" wall is part of an old Roman fort, and when the hebrews pay homage to it, they are actually worshiping the emperor ..... just like he said they would . :say what:

In fact, tradition teaches that ancient "mystery schools" taught the same message to many adepts (of different nations) who took those teachings and adapted them to peoples and places where they themselves taught.

Hebrew tradition maintains that the primary ancient "mystery school" was the academy of Shem and Eber. The "old testament" recounts that Abraham tithed a tenth of all his belongings to Malchitzedek (who Abraham calls the Priest to God, prior to the official giving of the Torah at sinia (jewish application of the teachings via Moshe via Egypt) prior to the establishment of the jewish priestly rite); Malchitzedek was believed to be a primary personality in this Academy.

It is apparent from these traditions that the method of teaching -- and to some degree the content -- at this (and likely other) academies was centralized or normalized, but allowed a more-or-less wide range of (artistic) license in the students' methods of dissemination of the original content to the masses. The idea here is that the core of what was being taught could be transmitted in somewhat varied ways, and that the core would not necessarily be negatively impacted by these variations.

That other nations tell essentially the same stories is therefore not surprising, but it is corroborative -- not of plagiarism, but of a myriad of teachings aimed at describing the same central ideas.

Hebrew tradition differs from other traditions -- and is seen therefore to be superior -- because it teaches the ultimate revelation of God to be a unified whole, rather than an ever elusive pairing of masculine and feminine. All the other ancient systems either stopped at a very removed masculine and feminine, or at some kind of scientific or historic explanation. Hebrew differed in that it did not try to reconcile the illogical nature of existence with the temporal, practical logic of the peoples. It unapologetically declared that everything was of a single source -- however uncomfortable it may be to consider -- and that was believed to be the closest system to the essential teachings of the ancient mystery schools/academies.

People are very willing and quick to believe anything but the Bible is True.

They will accept anything without challenge that challenges the Bible.

No! the Sumerian writings were about the epics of kings...was not religious .

Before their time(Sumerian), roaming tribes of hunter / gatherers thought trees / rocks / mountains etc. were sacred.

Lemme guess you believe that the governments of the world have been lying to us about every major event for the last hundred years culminating in one big ass conspiracy, but you trust Darwin because, you know, science..

Sumerian culture was absolutely saturated with what we would call "religion" -- so much so that the entire problem with interpreting the meanings of Sumerian history is rooted in our modern inability to distinguish between what they believed/transmitted as religious-myth or actual historical record.

I believe that this is a strong indicator of a transitional age between the epoch of one consciousness archetype and another -- a transitional phase where fundamental elements of conscious experience stopped or changed in a way that prevent posterior humanity from comprehending the reality of its predecessors.

Well! that was a bunch of cluster fuck that says nothing whatsoever .

Akhenaton was the first to bring monotheism to the forefront . He started it as a corrupted version of "The Brotherhood of the Snake" and then was hijacked by the hebrews .

The heebs started their own version of this false religion from the mystery schools and it has been THE source of chaos and corruption ever since.

I thought the BS version wasn't that they hijacked it, but were sent out to promulgate it hither and yon.

The human race as we know it from Adam is roughly 6000 years old, that's it.

Monotheism was corrupt from the start. The laws of Hammurabi were established a long time before religion, heebs even fucked all that up.... don't even get me started on the talmud.

These two books will break it down into detail for you... much better than me.

The Babylonian Woe by David Astle

Gods of Eden by William Bramley.

If you followed my posts in this thread from the beginning you would understand the reference to changing epochs and states of human perception.

Nevertheless, you have reiterated my earlier made points about monotheism derived from mystery schools in hebraic tradition, though you've spiced it up with some questionable references to akhenaton. But I agree, please don't get started on the talmud, as your demonstrated bias precludes any meaningful discussion. And, if it doesn't relate to Noah, then it doesn't relate to this thread.

You can take your gobbly gook deceptive words and put them on a bagel, and shove them up your ass.

Yebamoth 57b: A girl who is three years of age and one day may be betrothed by cohabitation; if a levir cohabited with her, he has thereby acquired her[9]

Supreme court of the United States, 2015:
"The right of two men to have sex with each other and equate this union with that between a man and a woman shall not be infringed" (summarization).

US government (on multiple occasions) "pedophilia [primarily that of men and young boys] is a [protected] sexual orientation".

Obama's Czar of school protection a NAMBLA supporter.

Additionally, nowhere in the texts of christianity have I ever found a refutation of the "old testemant" marriage guidelines.

So, Who's side are you on in this fight AC?

And, what does this have to do with Noah?

2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

I'm on the side of common sense , evidently you must be smoking some kind of that likud dummy dust cause you don't make any sense.

I know all about your hereditary brain worms so I can translate some of what you spew.

But anyway .... the internet has exposed the truth before you can completely infect the globe, so I expect that worm must be the size of a snake by now.

Their descendants are Sasquatch, correct?

Some animals hibernate, some lay eggs, baby animals are smaller take less space. There are ways, just because you don't know how they did it, does not make it untrue.

I am not sure all of the saved were just there, it could have also been told in other areas, there are many stories, and the world was large. I do not know, only the ones in the bible does make sense.

This is more acurate:
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the global flood story is taught in different cultures around the world, because it really happened.

sometimes I think the entire 'history of the earth' fields were created to try and debunk the flood.... that's certainly how it got started... the world is obsessed with denying that it happened.

as a child i always wondered how this was done. i mean how in the world did Noah get TWO of every animal on earth onto a TINY boat?? but if you subscribe to ancient astronaut Theory it makes sense. store the DNA of two of every animal on earth and when everything is extinct, then you can CLONE a species back from the dead from its DNA sequence. i dont think it could have been done any other way...

Noahs Ark
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The Flood
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really good explanations.
I'd also recommend Dr.Walt Brown, old school American and his hydroplate theory is very interesting:
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All of the scoffer questions have been answered, yet the devil spawn Beebee keeps messing about asking them same question over and over, very Joseph Goebbles by that old cunt.

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epic of gilgamesh [link to www.cidmod.org]

Story for little kids at bedtime

Ron Wyatt is a FRAUD!!!

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Thanks for pointing out the distinction between arguing against a flood vs. an ark. You would think it would be clear, but it's always assume first, last, and always.

I've heard different takes on the dna angle and it certainly does make for a more plausible scenario that shuffling animals on an actual ark. But then, what doesn't?