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Something is Affecting the Entire Solar System – Sun’s Magnetic Field 230% Stronger

 
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this data is relevant to yours OP..

Thread: we're in a lot of trouble I think.
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this data is relevant to yours OP..

Thread: we're in a lot of trouble I think.
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Thanks for the post. earth quakes up according to his numbers.
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Re: Something is Affecting the Entire Solar System – Sun’s Magnetic Field 230% Stronger
Astro, why do you always do that? you come to a thread to pick a fight until the thread is gone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67316295


Dr Astro made a point, congratulations for that!

But I'll advice him not to be so much compassionate to gravity, it's not scientifically popular any more.

No one says that gravity force does not exist. It's about WHY it exist. Could be that gravity is driven on magnetism. or more... maybe magnetic force and gravity are the same in nature... and created by... let's see... a dark energy?

Look again what Erik Verlinde says:


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Re: Something is Affecting the Entire Solar System – Sun’s Magnetic Field 230% Stronger
Save your breath, you are correct its a matter of how you interpret what is being said. stronger as you point out does not imply increase.
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LMFAO! You apparently thought it did, you used the words "percent increase" a total of 4 times in this post alone laying out your "math"...
Oct 26, 2009 - The phrase "a 3 fold increase" means multiplied by 3. 3x1=3. The answer is 3. If you had 3, a three fold increase would 3x3=9. Source(s): basic ...
[link to www.google.co.th (secure)]

Fold change is a measure describing how much a quantity changes going from an initial to a final value. For example, an initial value of 30 and a final value of 60 corresponds to a fold change of 2, or in common terms, a two-fold increase.

[link to www.google.co.th (secure)]

So if we take the example of 100 a 2.3 increase would be 230.

What percent increase do we have to have to change the value of 100 to 230.

100 x 130 percent increase gives us 130. 100 x 1.3
100 x 230 percent increase gives us 230. 100 x 2.3

So in order to arrive at a 2.3 increase we must have a 230 percent increase.

Don't you feel small it happens to us all. Now will you go back and delete all your argumentive bullshit.
 Quoting: mondali1


You thought you had me. You didn't even realize your math was completely screwed up.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Amazing...

still so bent on being right, but continuously states that he does not care what people think of him. very obvious to all reading this thread that this is untrue. Time to just walk away for a few days, clear your head.... or something.
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Astro, why do you always do that? you come to a thread to pick a fight until the thread is gone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67316295


Dr Astro made a point, congratulations for that!

But I'll advice him not to be so much compassionate to gravity, it's not scientifically popular any more.

No one says that gravity force does not exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69745454

Says the idiot who then proceeds to post a video titled "gravity does not exist." The stupidity it must have taken to write such a contradictory post is beyond my capacity to comprehend.
It's about WHY it exist. Could be that gravity is driven on magnetism. or more... maybe magnetic force and gravity are the same in nature...
 Quoting: AC

No, gravity is not magnetism. Go back to elementary school and try again.
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Re: Something is Affecting the Entire Solar System – Sun’s Magnetic Field 230% Stronger
Save your breath, you are correct its a matter of how you interpret what is being said. stronger as you point out does not imply increase.
 Quoting: mondali1

LMFAO! You apparently thought it did, you used the words "percent increase" a total of 4 times in this post alone laying out your "math"...
Oct 26, 2009 - The phrase "a 3 fold increase" means multiplied by 3. 3x1=3. The answer is 3. If you had 3, a three fold increase would 3x3=9. Source(s): basic ...
[link to www.google.co.th (secure)]

Fold change is a measure describing how much a quantity changes going from an initial to a final value. For example, an initial value of 30 and a final value of 60 corresponds to a fold change of 2, or in common terms, a two-fold increase.

[link to www.google.co.th (secure)]

So if we take the example of 100 a 2.3 increase would be 230.

What percent increase do we have to have to change the value of 100 to 230.

100 x 130 percent increase gives us 130. 100 x 1.3
100 x 230 percent increase gives us 230. 100 x 2.3

So in order to arrive at a 2.3 increase we must have a 230 percent increase.

Don't you feel small it happens to us all. Now will you go back and delete all your argumentive bullshit.
 Quoting: mondali1


You thought you had me. You didn't even realize your math was completely screwed up.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Amazing...

still so bent on being right, but continuously states that he does not care what people think of him. very obvious to all reading this thread that this is untrue. Time to just walk away for a few days, clear your head.... or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69568951

Bent on being right? I am right, I'm just pointing it out continuously until OP fixes his title. Then I will follow through on my promise to quit posting on his thread. I'm debunking disinfo and trying to limit its spread.

Last Edited by Astromut on 07/13/2015 09:52 AM
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Thus in the intervening 91 years (covering roughly 8.5
sunspot cycles) there was a rise in the average solar source flux of
131% (that is, a rise by a factor of 2.31).
from an article A doubling of the Sun’s magnetic field
during the past 100 years
M. Lockwood, R. Stamper & M. N. Wild

[link to www.eiscat.rl.ac.uk]

So it would appear that Dr lockwood would seem to stating a 130% increase has occurred. Thanks to astromut for the link.
 Quoting: mondali1


Now you'll fix the title?
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Re: Something is Affecting the Entire Solar System – Sun’s Magnetic Field 230% Stronger
What the fuck has that got to do with this thread?
 Quoting: NODOOM

IDW is actively trying to slander me as some sort of child molester, hence his long winded pointless post. Do not quote his diatribes, they will be removed the moment I see them.
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What the fuck has that got to do with this thread?
 Quoting: NODOOM

IDW is actively trying to slander me as some sort of child molester, hence his long winded pointless post. Do not quote his diatribes, they will be removed the moment I see them.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


K sorry.
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Re: Something is Affecting the Entire Solar System – Sun’s Magnetic Field 230% Stronger
...

It is interesting that someone is going wild with the censor pen.
 Quoting: GuyWithClue 58518800

get a clue. I have asked nicely. take this BS someplace else. You are derailing the thread, and I'm tired of it.
 Quoting: mondali1

I have a clue. I'm GuyWITHClue.

Is the magnetic field 230% stronger? That's what the thread seems to be about.

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 Quoting: GuyWithClue 58518800


Yes, that is my contention wording is everything. But this argument has been going on for pages. It is derailing the thread. I have deleted posts relating to it. Next I will start banning posters that continue in anyway to continue this argument. No one ever wins, not me, not you, not astro. But the thread loses and those who would like to learn and discuss the situation we find ourselves in. peace

edit to add but that is not what the post is about. Its about what is causing the changes to our solar system and attempting to ascertain how that will effect all of us.
 Quoting: mondali1


You would probably be really bothered if you unblocked Astro to see how fubar your thread really is. By deleting other posters you have turned this into a thread where it looks like Astro is the only one posting. It's all schizophrenic!

Just saying.

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No one says that gravity force does not exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69745454

Says the idiot who then proceeds to post a video titled "gravity does not exist."


Sorry for that. It's true that this is contradictory statement, but it's just because title of that video says something different, not me.
But, that's not the point. Science is now trying to EXPLAIN gravity, not to take it like in religion. It's fundamental force, but WHY, WHAT creates it?

So far as I know- if this man do that, he is next Nobel prize winner. And I'm somehow sure that he is on the right track.

For elementary school advice? Well, I am a mechanical engineer so far. I don't know if that would help. Maybe your school was better?

Also sorry if my English is bad, it's not my native language
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But, that's not the point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29738340

Yes it is. You said no one claims gravity doesn't exist, and then you posted a video saying exactly that.
Science is now trying to EXPLAIN gravity, not to take it like in religion. It's fundamental force, but WHY, WHAT creates it?
 Quoting: AC


Even without knowing what causes it you can know that it exists and that it follows an inverse square law with distance, not inverse cube.
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But, that's not the point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29738340

Yes it is. You said no one claims gravity doesn't exist, and then you posted a video saying exactly that.
Science is now trying to EXPLAIN gravity, not to take it like in religion. It's fundamental force, but WHY, WHAT creates it?
 Quoting: AC


Even without knowing what causes it you can know that it exists and that it follows an inverse square law with distance, not inverse cube.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Are you sure that gravitational constant is the same in whole universe? Couldn't it be just local universe constant?

Why is universe expanding?

I wrote this once on this forum: There goes a magnetic marble through the magnetic field. Yeah, I know how it works, I have learned about that...
(but this marble can also be a Earth going through the universe).

Suddenly, some iron sawdust bumps marble in the head.

Whoa, says marble, something is pulling me and that sawdust. Let's call that gravity!

Also, what do you think what feels an electron when electric current drives it through the wires? Could it be similar feeling as gravity?
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But, that's not the point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29738340

Yes it is. You said no one claims gravity doesn't exist, and then you posted a video saying exactly that.
Science is now trying to EXPLAIN gravity, not to take it like in religion. It's fundamental force, but WHY, WHAT creates it?
 Quoting: AC


Even without knowing what causes it you can know that it exists and that it follows an inverse square law with distance, not inverse cube.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Are you sure that gravitational constant is the same in whole universe? Couldn't it be just local universe constant?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29738340

Ok, let's pretend for a moment it's only local... Gravity still exists! Nothing you're saying has anything to do with that basic fact. Gravity works, it exists, and it is not magnetism. That is a fact, not opinion, not supposition.
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Re: Something is Affecting the Entire Solar System – Sun’s Magnetic Field 230% Stronger
But, that's not the point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29738340

Yes it is. You said no one claims gravity doesn't exist, and then you posted a video saying exactly that.
Science is now trying to EXPLAIN gravity, not to take it like in religion. It's fundamental force, but WHY, WHAT creates it?
 Quoting: AC


Even without knowing what causes it you can know that it exists and that it follows an inverse square law with distance, not inverse cube.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Are you sure that gravitational constant is the same in whole universe? Couldn't it be just local universe constant?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29738340

Ok, let's pretend for a moment it's only local... Gravity still exists! Nothing you're saying has anything to do with that basic fact. Gravity works, it exists, and it is not magnetism. That is a fact, not opinion, not supposition.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


OK, thank you. I'm just posting this because I appreciate your compassion for science truth, that's what I see in your aguments.

But, as you know, looking at the tree doesn't always help you to see the forest.
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[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]





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