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re gay/wedding cake store owners


the finooks are violating our rights to freedom of speech. they also are violating our rights to freedom of religion, for which is constitutionally protected. as store owners they have the right to refuse service - see oklahoma former mayor dude and his restaurant.

So, not only did they have to close down their business, not only have they had to endure threats and nasty messages on social media, not only do they have to fork out money to a couple that clearly was looking to make a point - they ALSO have been banned from ever expressing their viewpoints against same-sex marriage. Which was deemed advertising


"The final ruling has been made today. We have been charged with $135,000 in emotional damages, But also now Aaron has been charged with advertising. (Basically talking about not wanting to participate in a same-sex wedding) This effectively strips us of all our first amendment rights. According to the state of Oregon we neither have freedom of religion or freedom of speech. We will NOT give up this fight, and we will NOT be silenced. We stand for God's truth, God's word and freedom for ALL americans. We are here to obey God not man, and we will not conform to this world. If we were to lose everything it would be totally worth it for our Lord who gave his one and only son, Jesus, for us! God will win this fight!"

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the us constitution does NOT protect you from getting butthurt.
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Yes this sets us all up for all kinds of unfair stuff they are having fund raisers for this family and the others like photographers that refused ufo56
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Well said.
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We just rocked with an earthquake here.
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Oregon has laws that protects gays against discrimination. Some states can refuse and get away with it because there are no discrimination laws against gays.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"Since January 1, 2008, Oregon has banned discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations based on both sexual orientation and gender identity."
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
No, it's just going to stink more.
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Yes this sets us all up for all kinds of unfair stuff they are having fund raisers for this family and the others like photographers that refused ufo56
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the big ACLU pushduring the holidays now is to get rid of public depictions of the nativity scene during christmas. yeah, thats whats wrong with the country, plastic depictions of christs birth. the ACLU has now degenerated to the point where theyll fight against your right to erect a nativity scene but theyll fight for the right of the local freak who stumbles into the scene and fucks one of the sheep. and they always bring up our forefathers and say they were civil libertarians. cmon, our forefathers would have never tolerated any of this current-bullshit. for fux sake, they were blowin’ guys' heads off because they put a tax on their breakfast beverage! and it wasnt even coffee! imagine how nuts they would have been on a 4-shot espresso.
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Oregon has laws that protects gays against discrimination. Some states can refuse and get away with it because there are no discrimination laws against gays.
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"Since January 1, 2008, Oregon has banned discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations based on both sexual orientation and gender identity."
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time to do the jefferson & move on up - migrate to a diff state
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Yes this sets us all up for all kinds of unfair stuff they are having fund raisers for this family and the others like photographers that refused ufo56
 Quoting: Goofy for God


the gay agenda & liberal progressive push not will but has been slowly ending all liberties as we once knew it
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There are no laws to ban discrimination against Christians and others who do not agree with the liberal agenda.
It is now just the opposite. those who disagree are criminalized.
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The pols that saddled us with these laws should be flogged in a public square, tarred, feathered, and run out of the state. And those who voted for them should have their voting rights permanently revoked.

Then there will be liberty and justice for all and we can once again celebrate Independence Day. As it is, July 4 should be a day of mourning for all Americans and anyone that values freedom.
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Oregon has laws that protects gays against discrimination. Some states can refuse and get away with it because there are no discrimination laws against gays.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"Since January 1, 2008, Oregon has banned discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations based on both sexual orientation and gender identity."
 Quoting: Nah-T


time to do the jefferson & move on up - migrate to a diff state
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Yeah but those lawless people are going to ruin it for everyone, they are putting us at risk for losing constitutional rights.
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
No, it's just going to stink more.
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The pols that saddled us with these laws should be flogged in a public square, tarred, feathered, and run out of the state. And those who voted for them should have their voting rights permanently revoked.

Then there will be liberty and justice for all and we can once again celebrate Independence Day. As it is, July 4 should be a day of mourning for all Americans and anyone that values freedom.
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^^^THIS^^^
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There are no laws to ban discrimination against Christians and others who do not agree with the liberal agenda.
It is now just the opposite. those who disagree are criminalized.
 Quoting: tiger1

its as if christians are the terrorists now
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Oregon has laws that protects gays against discrimination. Some states can refuse and get away with it because there are no discrimination laws against gays.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
"Since January 1, 2008, Oregon has banned discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations based on both sexual orientation and gender identity."
 Quoting: Nah-T


time to do the jefferson & move on up - migrate to a diff state
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Yeah but those lawless people are going to ruin it for everyone, they are putting us at risk for losing constitutional rights.
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everyone should not only read this but listen to it


Alan Isaacman's speech about Freedom and the futility of Censorship as read verbatim by Ed Norton in the People vs Larry Flynt (1996). Easily one of the greatest movie speeches of all time, it was actually said in the courtroom as Isaacman's closing argument and obviously fell on deaf ears as Flynt was sentenced to 25 years in prison. Flynt is obviously no patriot or hero, but Isaacman is, and this speech is brilliant.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt full quote at youtube clip site

If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anything or... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."

excerpt from the people vs larry flynt -
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The gay agenda was never about equal rights but about silencing conservatives. $135,000in emotional damages, insanity.
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re gay/wedding cake store owners


the finooks are violating our rights to freedom of speech. they also are violating our rights to freedom of religion, for which is constitutionally protected. as store owners they have the right to refuse service - see oklahoma former mayor dude and his restaurant.

So, not only did they have to close down their business, not only have they had to endure threats and nasty messages on social media, not only do they have to fork out money to a couple that clearly was looking to make a point - they ALSO have been banned from ever expressing their viewpoints against same-sex marriage. Which was deemed advertising


"The final ruling has been made today. We have been charged with $135,000 in emotional damages, But also now Aaron has been charged with advertising. (Basically talking about not wanting to participate in a same-sex wedding) This effectively strips us of all our first amendment rights. According to the state of Oregon we neither have freedom of religion or freedom of speech. We will NOT give up this fight, and we will NOT be silenced. We stand for God's truth, God's word and freedom for ALL americans. We are here to obey God not man, and we will not conform to this world. If we were to lose everything it would be totally worth it for our Lord who gave his one and only son, Jesus, for us! God will win this fight!"

finiSHIT here
[link to chicksontheright.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


They're taking this to US supreme court or what?

Left wing fanaticism is at all time high.
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the finooks are violating our rights to freedom of speech. they also are violating our rights to freedom of religion, for which is constitutionally protected. as store owners they have the right to refuse service - see oklahoma former mayor dude and his restaurant.

So, not only did they have to close down their business, not only have they had to endure threats and nasty messages on social media, not only do they have to fork out money to a couple that clearly was looking to make a point - they ALSO have been banned from ever expressing their viewpoints against same-sex marriage. Which was deemed advertising


"The final ruling has been made today. We have been charged with $135,000 in emotional damages, But also now Aaron has been charged with advertising. (Basically talking about not wanting to participate in a same-sex wedding) This effectively strips us of all our first amendment rights. According to the state of Oregon we neither have freedom of religion or freedom of speech. We will NOT give up this fight, and we will NOT be silenced. We stand for God's truth, God's word and freedom for ALL americans. We are here to obey God not man, and we will not conform to this world. If we were to lose everything it would be totally worth it for our Lord who gave his one and only son, Jesus, for us! God will win this fight!"

finiSHIT here
[link to chicksontheright.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


They're taking this to US supreme court or what?

Left wing fanaticism is at all time high.
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ive never seen such bullshit like this fast tracked like the confederate flag. that was dangerous in itself, the govt manipulating commerce to remove flag; but this such as this, i was a pizza shop owner, i posted a sign "we reserve the right to refuse service" didnt matter what color you were, disabled, sex/gender or just an asshole; if i didnt wanna serve you i had the inherent right not to. end of story
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the finooks are violating our rights to freedom of speech. they also are violating our rights to freedom of religion, for which is constitutionally protected. as store owners they have the right to refuse service - see oklahoma former mayor dude and his restaurant.

So, not only did they have to close down their business, not only have they had to endure threats and nasty messages on social media, not only do they have to fork out money to a couple that clearly was looking to make a point - they ALSO have been banned from ever expressing their viewpoints against same-sex marriage. Which was deemed advertising


"The final ruling has been made today. We have been charged with $135,000 in emotional damages, But also now Aaron has been charged with advertising. (Basically talking about not wanting to participate in a same-sex wedding) This effectively strips us of all our first amendment rights. According to the state of Oregon we neither have freedom of religion or freedom of speech. We will NOT give up this fight, and we will NOT be silenced. We stand for God's truth, God's word and freedom for ALL americans. We are here to obey God not man, and we will not conform to this world. If we were to lose everything it would be totally worth it for our Lord who gave his one and only son, Jesus, for us! God will win this fight!"

finiSHIT here
[link to chicksontheright.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


messed up for sure.

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i dont pin my own threads, hit the in request yo
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The gay agenda was never about equal rights but about silencing conservatives. $135,000in emotional damages, insanity.
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its about demoralization which will open the door for the pedophiles to get 'equality' to decriminalize it and normalize it to be a sexual preference. its been in the news right after this ruling - but i told everyone back in 2012 that this is where we are headed. search my threads, when the dsm 5 came out as a "leak" they put that in it as a sexual pref - when it went viral, they said ooo that was a mistake -yeah right. but its coming you heard it here

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They should take it to a higher court
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Phen, I'm having a bit of back and forth in my head about this situation. As it says in The People vs. Larry Flint, "we sometimes have to tolerate things we don't agree with".
As a business we don't have freedom of speech and religion in the sense of discriminating against others. There are laws against that, and I understand why. But also laws don't make rights ethical. As a business you should provide equal rights for everyone. But as an individual we always should have freedom of speech and religion.
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They should take it to a higher court
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i would too, however the courts already ruled on gay marriage im inclined to believe since the supreme court would side with the progressives.
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Phen, I'm having a bit of back and forth in my head about this situation. As it says in The People vs. Larry Flint, "we sometimes have to tolerate things we don't agree with".
As a business we don't have freedom of speech and religion in the sense of discriminating against others. There are laws against that, and I understand why. But also laws don't make rights ethical. As a business you should provide equal rights for everyone. But as an individual we always should have freedom of speech and religion.
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if i were them id seek counsel of alan isaacman the atty for larry flint

in 1988, he argued the case Hustler Magazine v. Falwell before the Supreme Court of the United States. 50% read the rest here
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check out this oklahoma former mayor this guy dont serve blacks gays et al etc...and they tried to strong arm him and hes won so far


Restaurant owner says he won’t serve black or gay customers
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There are no laws to ban discrimination against Christians and others who do not agree with the liberal agenda.
It is now just the opposite. those who disagree are criminalized.
 Quoting: tiger1

its as if christians are the terrorists now
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Yes, we are the new terrorists. Our weapons are the TRUTH, Faith, and HOPE.
Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!!
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There are no laws to ban discrimination against Christians and others who do not agree with the liberal agenda.
It is now just the opposite. those who disagree are criminalized.
 Quoting: tiger1

its as if christians are the terrorists now
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Yes, we are the new terrorists. Our weapons are the TRUTH, Faith, and HOPE.
 Quoting: tiger1


Terrorist do act like they are above the law and take matters into their own hands rather than following the laws of the land. TPTB are ordained by God, doers of the law are justified not just the hearers, or do you not believe the words in the bible?
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
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Oregon and the whole PNW is beautiful but full of mental-cases and communists. Some say they have water on the brain.
I should know as I lived in Corvallis as a young person during the late 80s- early 90's.
Noticed the infiltration of schools, government, and others from the get go.
The gays would purchase older large homes, raise the rainbow flags, and have orgies on balconies. Soon after whole neighborhoods would be solid gay/commie with rainbow flags on every house.
It wasn't unheard of to see large two - three story homes completely filled with gay communes.
I remember getting into trouble for chucking apples at the George Castanza looking dykes making out on the balcony for everyone to see... dildos, etc. They were visible from our backyard.
Hit one smack in the head and she/it fell off. She lived of course. Blubber provides protection.
Well we moved soon after. They didn't like us as my parents home-schooled me. Got my diploma at the age of 15.
Very sad they have gone full retard with the mandatory chips taxing mileage and the full blown infiltration in every institution.
Beautiful place but cursed. The rural areas are still decent though.
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Oregon and the whole PNW is beautiful but full of mental-cases and communists. Some say they have water on the brain.
I should know as I lived in Corvallis as a young person during the late 80s- early 90's.
Noticed the infiltration of schools, government, and others from the get go.
The gays would purchase older large homes, raise the rainbow flags, and have orgies on balconies. Soon after whole neighborhoods would be solid gay/commie with rainbow flags on every house.
It wasn't unheard of to see large two - three story homes completely filled with gay communes.
I remember getting into trouble for chucking apples at the George Castanza looking dykes making out on the balcony for everyone to see... dildos, etc. They were visible from our backyard.
Hit one smack in the head and she/it fell off. She lived of course. Blubber provides protection.
Well we moved soon after. They didn't like us as my parents home-schooled me. Got my diploma at the age of 15.
Very sad they have gone full retard with the mandatory chips taxing mileage and the full blown infiltration in every institution.
Beautiful place but cursed. The rural areas are still decent though.
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some fool in the Portland school system just declared peanut butter and jelly sandwiches racist. I know pork sandwiches offend some but pb and j?
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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There are no laws to ban discrimination against Christians and others who do not agree with the liberal agenda.
It is now just the opposite. those who disagree are criminalized.
 Quoting: tiger1

its as if christians are the terrorists now
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Yes, we are the new terrorists. Our weapons are the TRUTH, Faith, and HOPE.
 Quoting: tiger1


Terrorist do act like they are above the law and take matters into their own hands rather than following the laws of the land. TPTB are ordained by God, doers of the law are justified not just the hearers, or do you not believe the words in the bible?
 Quoting: Nah-T


What are you babbling about?





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