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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 60624084 United States 07/05/2015 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pedro da Costa ‏@pdacosta 12 de set Ver tradução Quoting: OXI Luisport S&P upgrades Greece debt rating. I repeat, upgrades. [link to on.wsj.com] by @michael_calia Now is the perfect time to start fresh. Repudiate the debt, live off tax revenue, and restart the drachmae. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69679570 United States 07/05/2015 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure, it's a great thing that Greece voted OXI. But their governments positive program is socialism. The left everywhere are cheering this as a victory for democratic socialism. I'm happy that Greece gave the finger to the EU fascists - but Greece needs to embrace open markets if it's to drag itself out of the hole it's in. Varoufakis knows this, but the Greek government are embracing a full-blown socialist system of government ownership. Capital controls are in place, and this will prevent any growth in the economy. They likely won't relax those controls in the short term, because such controls are necessary according to their screwy economic theory.... Quoting: The_Original_Mind Greece is about to embrace open markets, in Russia and China. LOL! Looks like we can now celebrate Independence day two days in a row. LOL! |
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OXI Foveras User ID: 61879979 Greece 07/05/2015 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure, it's a great thing that Greece voted OXI. But their governments positive program is socialism. The left everywhere are cheering this as a victory for democratic socialism. I'm happy that Greece gave the finger to the EU fascists - but Greece needs to embrace open markets if it's to drag itself out of the hole it's in. Varoufakis knows this, but the Greek government are embracing a full-blown socialist system of government ownership. Capital controls are in place, and this will prevent any growth in the economy. They likely won't relax those controls in the short term, because such controls are necessary according to their screwy economic theory. Quoting: The_Original_Mind So in short, this is a great result - but Greece isn't much closer to prosperity. So here's a libertarian solution to this socialist mess: 10 Step Program to Full Recovery 1. Return to the drachma. Float the currency on the open market. Limit its growth per Friedmanian principles to forestall inflation. 2. Remove all capital controls. Offer immediate swaps for euros to drachmae. 3. Immediately slash military, intelligence, unemployment, and jobs program spending by 50%. Immediate reduction of all elected officials' salaries by 20%. 4. Repudiate all foreign debt immediately. 5. Remove all tariffs and subsidies. 6. Immediately initiate totally free international trade. Announce willingness of the Greek state to establish trade treaties with anyone, particularly BRICS, but not excluding the EU. 7. Drastically cut or eliminate all licensing regulations internally. 8. Immediately impose a 10% flat tax nationwide on individuals and businesses. EDIT. Announce that government will be entirely funded by this tax, ceasing its reliance on bond sales. 9. Privatize all utilities and public services with the exception of healthcare, education, social security, and law enforcement. 10. Change the national motto to: "Greece is open for business." Love responsibility, keep saying, I alone will save the world If it gets lost, myself only is responsible N.Kazantzakis |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 60624084 United States 07/05/2015 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure, it's a great thing that Greece voted OXI. But their governments positive program is socialism. The left everywhere are cheering this as a victory for democratic socialism. I'm happy that Greece gave the finger to the EU fascists - but Greece needs to embrace open markets if it's to drag itself out of the hole it's in. Varoufakis knows this, but the Greek government are embracing a full-blown socialist system of government ownership. Capital controls are in place, and this will prevent any growth in the economy. They likely won't relax those controls in the short term, because such controls are necessary according to their screwy economic theory.... Quoting: The_Original_Mind Greece is about to embrace open markets, in Russia and China. LOL! Looks like we can now celebrate Independence day two days in a row. LOL! And if they do that, it would be great. But open markets entail more than open trade. Impossible. Iceland only faced a fiscal crisis. Greece faces a total structural collapse. No, the Greeks survived for centuries without monopoly money. They'll do it again. Russia and China wil be more than happy to help them. I don't understand how what you said is a response. For one, those centuries you're talking about saw Greece ground under the Ottoman boot. There's a reason Greece was a backward economy for centuries... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69683213 Greece 07/05/2015 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure, it's a great thing that Greece voted OXI. But their governments positive program is socialism. The left everywhere are cheering this as a victory for democratic socialism. I'm happy that Greece gave the finger to the EU fascists - but Greece needs to embrace open markets if it's to drag itself out of the hole it's in. Varoufakis knows this, but the Greek government are embracing a full-blown socialist system of government ownership. Capital controls are in place, and this will prevent any growth in the economy. They likely won't relax those controls in the short term, because such controls are necessary according to their screwy economic theory. Quoting: The_Original_Mind So in short, this is a great result - but Greece isn't much closer to prosperity. So here's a libertarian solution to this socialist mess: 10 Step Program to Full Recovery 1. Return to the drachma. Float the currency on the open market. Limit its growth per Friedmanian principles to forestall inflation. 2. Remove all capital controls. Offer immediate swaps for euros to drachmae. 3. Immediately slash military, intelligence, unemployment, and jobs program spending by 50%. Immediate reduction of all elected officials' salaries by 20%. 4. Repudiate all foreign debt immediately. 5. Remove all tariffs and subsidies. 6. Immediately initiate totally free international trade. Announce willingness of the Greek state to establish trade treaties with anyone, particularly BRICS, but not excluding the EU. 7. Drastically cut or eliminate all licensing regulations internally. 8. Immediately impose a 10% flat tax nationwide on individuals and businesses. EDIT. Announce that government will be entirely funded by this tax, ceasing its reliance on bond sales. 9. Privatize all utilities and public services with the exception of healthcare, education, social security, and law enforcement. 10. Change the national motto to: "Greece is open for business." It's Greece... Not going to do 90% of what's on your list. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 60624084 United States 07/05/2015 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure, it's a great thing that Greece voted OXI. But their governments positive program is socialism. The left everywhere are cheering this as a victory for democratic socialism. I'm happy that Greece gave the finger to the EU fascists - but Greece needs to embrace open markets if it's to drag itself out of the hole it's in. Varoufakis knows this, but the Greek government are embracing a full-blown socialist system of government ownership. Capital controls are in place, and this will prevent any growth in the economy. They likely won't relax those controls in the short term, because such controls are necessary according to their screwy economic theory. Quoting: The_Original_Mind So in short, this is a great result - but Greece isn't much closer to prosperity. So here's a libertarian solution to this socialist mess: 10 Step Program to Full Recovery 1. Return to the drachma. Float the currency on the open market. Limit its growth per Friedmanian principles to forestall inflation. 2. Remove all capital controls. Offer immediate swaps for euros to drachmae. 3. Immediately slash military, intelligence, unemployment, and jobs program spending by 50%. Immediate reduction of all elected officials' salaries by 20%. 4. Repudiate all foreign debt immediately. 5. Remove all tariffs and subsidies. 6. Immediately initiate totally free international trade. Announce willingness of the Greek state to establish trade treaties with anyone, particularly BRICS, but not excluding the EU. 7. Drastically cut or eliminate all licensing regulations internally. 8. Immediately impose a 10% flat tax nationwide on individuals and businesses. EDIT. Announce that government will be entirely funded by this tax, ceasing its reliance on bond sales. 9. Privatize all utilities and public services with the exception of healthcare, education, social security, and law enforcement. 10. Change the national motto to: "Greece is open for business." It's Greece... Not going to do 90% of what's on your list. Oh I know - but it's worth stating the rational alternative. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69683213 Greece 07/05/2015 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure, it's a great thing that Greece voted OXI. But their governments positive program is socialism. The left everywhere are cheering this as a victory for democratic socialism. I'm happy that Greece gave the finger to the EU fascists - but Greece needs to embrace open markets if it's to drag itself out of the hole it's in. Varoufakis knows this, but the Greek government are embracing a full-blown socialist system of government ownership. Capital controls are in place, and this will prevent any growth in the economy. They likely won't relax those controls in the short term, because such controls are necessary according to their screwy economic theory. Quoting: The_Original_Mind So in short, this is a great result - but Greece isn't much closer to prosperity. So here's a libertarian solution to this socialist mess: 10 Step Program to Full Recovery 1. Return to the drachma. Float the currency on the open market. Limit its growth per Friedmanian principles to forestall inflation. 2. Remove all capital controls. Offer immediate swaps for euros to drachmae. 3. Immediately slash military, intelligence, unemployment, and jobs program spending by 50%. Immediate reduction of all elected officials' salaries by 20%. 4. Repudiate all foreign debt immediately. 5. Remove all tariffs and subsidies. 6. Immediately initiate totally free international trade. Announce willingness of the Greek state to establish trade treaties with anyone, particularly BRICS, but not excluding the EU. 7. Drastically cut or eliminate all licensing regulations internally. 8. Immediately impose a 10% flat tax nationwide on individuals and businesses. EDIT. Announce that government will be entirely funded by this tax, ceasing its reliance on bond sales. 9. Privatize all utilities and public services with the exception of healthcare, education, social security, and law enforcement. 10. Change the national motto to: "Greece is open for business." It's Greece... Not going to do 90% of what's on your list. Oh I know - but it's worth stating the rational alternative. Agree. If they were willing to do any of that though we wouldn't be discussing any if this. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 60624084 United States 07/05/2015 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure, it's a great thing that Greece voted OXI. But their governments positive program is socialism. The left everywhere are cheering this as a victory for democratic socialism. I'm happy that Greece gave the finger to the EU fascists - but Greece needs to embrace open markets if it's to drag itself out of the hole it's in. Varoufakis knows this, but the Greek government are embracing a full-blown socialist system of government ownership. Capital controls are in place, and this will prevent any growth in the economy. They likely won't relax those controls in the short term, because such controls are necessary according to their screwy economic theory. Quoting: The_Original_Mind So in short, this is a great result - but Greece isn't much closer to prosperity. So here's a libertarian solution to this socialist mess: 10 Step Program to Full Recovery 1. Return to the drachma. Float the currency on the open market. Limit its growth per Friedmanian principles to forestall inflation. 2. Remove all capital controls. Offer immediate swaps for euros to drachmae. 3. Immediately slash military, intelligence, unemployment, and jobs program spending by 50%. Immediate reduction of all elected officials' salaries by 20%. 4. Repudiate all foreign debt immediately. 5. Remove all tariffs and subsidies. 6. Immediately initiate totally free international trade. Announce willingness of the Greek state to establish trade treaties with anyone, particularly BRICS, but not excluding the EU. 7. Drastically cut or eliminate all licensing regulations internally. 8. Immediately impose a 10% flat tax nationwide on individuals and businesses. EDIT. Announce that government will be entirely funded by this tax, ceasing its reliance on bond sales. 9. Privatize all utilities and public services with the exception of healthcare, education, social security, and law enforcement. 10. Change the national motto to: "Greece is open for business." It's Greece... Not going to do 90% of what's on your list. Oh I know - but it's worth stating the rational alternative. Agree. If they were willing to do any of that though we wouldn't be discussing any if this. Very true. |