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9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 74465
9/12/2006 10:23 AM
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This is a cautious post-- no author name, difficult to sleuth...
Writings of a Finnish Military Expert on 9/11
Written in spring 2005, a modestly language-corrected version Corrected by another person than the original author
[link to www.serendipity.li]
More installments here:
"Due to concerns for his personal safety, the author has chosen to remain anonymous."
[link to www.serendipity.li]
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 113333
9/12/2006 10:39 AM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Do you have a problem with
my new clear plan? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142768
9/12/2006 10:44 AM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
ooowh! Kent does it again. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 113333
9/12/2006 10:52 AM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Seriously though.
Weren't/aren't there reports of people that were at ground zero (makes you wonder why they call it ground zero now doesn't it - subliminal maybe?)now suffering from adverse health conditions? |
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Old-fashioned Catholic
User ID: 135493
9/12/2006 11:04 AM
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The author mentions this:
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An EMP-type phenomenon blacked out cellular phones at the moment when the first (southern) tower started to 'fall down', at the exact moment when a small thermonuclear bomb was detonated. Even in electronic cameras and videos a strange afterglow was seen in the late phase of the 'collapse' of both of the towers.
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Also, this could be a 'smoking gun':
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Elevated values of tritium in this area, but not elsewhere in New York. The University of California found elevated values on 9/13/2001 and 9/21/2001 within bounds of the WTC.
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Here is a scholarly paper on the tritium at the WTC, along with a dubious explanation for it:
[link to repositories.cdlib.org] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 141104
9/12/2006 11:21 AM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Excellent find, Kent.
The best explanation so far for the molten steel, brown clouds, ultra-pulverized concrete, tritium levels and months-long fires.
Gotta wonder about the number of people involved, though - could they *all* be silent or silenced? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 102875
9/12/2006 11:53 AM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Now this is a good find; thanks!
Hopefully, in future 911 movies it will be told that thermonukes was used at the WTC demol. showing the real perpetrators...and then finally we can have the peace of mind! |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 74465
9/12/2006 12:44 PM
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Thinking of reports from Bali:
Micro Nuke Used in Bali “Terrorist” Lookalike Attack-- Joe Vialls, 14 October 2002
[link to www.vialls.com]
EMAILED:[RE: Bali] "A young woman tells report of dancing with her partner and next thing he just disappears in front of her. She escapes. Another woman is talking with 7 Aussie young men and they disappear, she ends up under bodies and rubble, but gets out." --Bali Report, Julie King, Aus
China:
China Test-detonates Kiloton Neutron Bomb
[link to uts.cc.utexas.edu]
More notes:
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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DanG
User ID: 135265
9/12/2006 12:51 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
  
>still< the only WMD on the planet |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 140291
9/12/2006 1:05 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Excellent find, Kent.
The best explanation so far for the molten steel, brown clouds, ultra-pulverized concrete, tritium levels and months-long fires.
Gotta wonder about the number of people involved, though - could they *all* be silent or silenced? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 141104
You guys that keep saying how could they keep it quiet.
Your statement is like this was like some kind of "Our Gang" lets put on a school play scenario.
Planning and development only took place since Bush was in office etc.
You don't seem to be able to grasp that perhaps it was in planning for a very very long time. People placed in positions within all areas of the govt..military. That certain people are loyal to this groups strategy, and have no reason to "out" what they did.
You don't need people to help cover up, when you plan more war games and exercises than you can shake a stick at to confuse those that are just regular workers. Explain why there were so many war games/exercises/and more that day. Some with the exact premise that happened.
Gee, who inside the govt told Al Q so they could use this info, hmm, is that what you say happened.
This premise that "someone" would come forward is based on false logic, and really has no place in the argument. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2694
9/12/2006 1:25 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
If there were small nuclear bombs then WHERE were they placed? Because a nuclear bomb going off in the basement would have blown out the LOWER floors.
Such a bomb in the floors higher up would be clearly visible as MOST of the explosion would have gone out sideways, therby very clearly revealing itself.
So this nuke theory is on extremely shaky ground. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142808
9/12/2006 1:31 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Read the article, 2694. Shape charges. Direct the energy upward into the core of the building. Why do you think they found so few survivors? They were vaporized. That dust just wasn't right. Makes sense-the heat vaporized the water. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142809
9/12/2006 1:31 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Excellent find, Kent.
The best explanation so far for the molten steel, brown clouds, ultra-pulverized concrete, tritium levels and months-long fires.
Gotta wonder about the number of people involved, though - could they *all* be silent or silenced?
You guys that keep saying how could they keep it quiet.
Your statement is like this was like some kind of "Our Gang" lets put on a school play scenario.
Planning and development only took place since Bush was in office etc.
You don't seem to be able to grasp that perhaps it was in planning for a very very long time. People placed in positions within all areas of the govt..military. That certain people are loyal to this groups strategy, and have no reason to "out" what they did.
You don't need people to help cover up, when you plan more war games and exercises than you can shake a stick at to confuse those that are just regular workers. Explain why there were so many war games/exercises/and more that day. Some with the exact premise that happened.
Gee, who inside the govt told Al Q so they could use this info, hmm, is that what you say happened.
This premise that "someone" would come forward is based on false logic, and really has no place in the argument. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140291
Not trying to take a "place in the argument", friend.
Just expressing my wonderment based on my personal experiences with the human animal. I didn't say it wasn't possible, but tried to say it was hard to comprehend for me. FOR ME.
k?
thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142808
9/12/2006 1:35 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Look at the pics of those steel beams being tossed into the air like toothpicks. What caused that??? Pools of molten steel in the basement? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142809
9/12/2006 1:35 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
If there were small nuclear bombs then WHERE were they placed? Because a nuclear bomb going off in the basement would have blown out the LOWER floors.
Such a bomb in the floors higher up would be clearly visible as MOST of the explosion would have gone out sideways, therby very clearly revealing itself.
So this nuke theory is on extremely shaky ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2694
Here's a picture describing the theory:
[link to www.serendipity.li]
Also this:
"...The former Soviet Union is said to have had more than 500 command centers durable for a small nuke. That led into the developing of different types of bunker busters. A working solution is a nuclear missile that directs 96% of its yield into a thin, all penetrating heat+blast wave forward, tunneling hundreds of meters downwards into solid rock. This type of a hydrogen bomb was developed somewhere in the early 1990's. Nowadays, both the yield and the direction of the destructive force of a small tactical hydrogen bomb can be somewhat controlled. The amount of fusion-able materials control the yield (effect) and the shape of the charge as well as the initiation arrangements impress the direction of the explosion wave."
[link to www.serendipity.li] |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 74465
9/12/2006 1:38 PM
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You don't seem to be able to grasp that perhaps it was in planning for a very very long time. People placed in positions within all areas of the govt..military. That certain people are loyal to this groups strategy, and have no reason to "out" what they did.
You don't need people to help cover up, when you plan more war games and exercises than you can shake a stick at to confuse those that are just regular workers. Explain why there were so many war games/exercises/and more that day. Some with the exact premise that happened.
Gee, who inside the govt told Al Q so they could use this info, hmm, is that what you say happened.
This premise that "someone" would come forward is based on false logic, and really has no place in the argument. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140291
It was a real MAJIC show, with so much misdirection that you'd think they hired trained stage illusionists.
Which is not without precedence:
The Magician Who Won a War
[link to magic.about.com]
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142808
9/12/2006 2:07 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Excellent information, Kent. Yes. Now it makes sense. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 32062
9/12/2006 2:08 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Has anyone measured radiation levels at the site? Even with a neutron bomb there should still be residual traces of radiation.
"Dense arrows of flame, like a great shower, issued forth upon creation, encompassing the enemy....A thick gloom swiftly settled upon the Pandava hosts. All points of the compass were lost in darkness. Fierce winds began to blow. Clouds roared upward, showering dust and gravel.
"Birds croaked madly...the very elements seemed disturbed. The sun seemed to waver in the heavens. The earth shook, scorched by the terrible violent heat of this weapon. Elephants burst into flame and ran to and fro in a frenzy...over a vast area, other animals crumpled to the ground and died. From all points of the compass the arrows of flame rained continuously and fiercely."
"Gurkha, flying in his swift and powerful Vimana, hurled against the three cities of the Vrishnis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendour...An iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas....The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white....After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected.... To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment..."
- The Mahabharata
[link to www.mystae.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142808
9/12/2006 2:24 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Very useful. Who would have known nuclear weapons create a large cloud of brown smoke secondary to radiation reactions with atmospheric gases? I just couldn't imagine what created that fine concrete dust that coated everybody on that day. Nuclear-generated heat vaporizing the water content from the concrete. WTC-7 being used for operations and monitoring before 911, and then vaporizing the evidence with a third mini-nuke to collapse it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142821
9/12/2006 2:31 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
" Ground zeros of nuclear weapons are a health risk and belong to the FEMA."
good think FEMA was there for the military exercise that was going on, on 9/11. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142809
9/12/2006 3:14 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 140901
9/12/2006 3:36 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
What are you people talking about?
There is NO "water" in cured ("hydrated") concrete. And this concrete was most assuredly fully cured.
Of course there is water when concrete is freshly mixed... but it literally disappears as your standard H2O molecules after the chemical reactions that are a part of the hydration process are completed over time.
Water provide hydrogen ions that are comsumed in the chemical curing and hardening processes. This leaves OH (hydroxide) ions, which then combine with calcium in the mix to form calcium hydroxide.
THERE IS NO "WATER" in concrete after it has cured for the length of time it did at the WTC!!!
Something else pulverized all that concrete - and yes, this phenomenon is definitely a key to what actually took place on 9-11 at the WTC. I'm not saying you're all nuts, far from it. I'm simply saying that if you're going to propose a theory, then it must meet minimum scientific standards. Common sense. This could all be thrown out just on the basis of talking about "water" in cured concrete. Silliness. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142829
9/12/2006 3:40 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
weird post above mine huh
some supposed fucking concrete expert? yaaaa 
anyways hi emp 
i started reading the link, but i didn't finnish it 
whats it about man ... whats this mythical 'N' word?
mj |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7518
9/12/2006 3:47 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Finally some Finnish SISU ! ! ! |
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A/C
User ID: 142855
9/12/2006 4:02 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
There may not be any water in dried concrete.....But there IS water in people.
There should have been more evidence of bodies... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 140901
9/12/2006 4:03 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
weird post above mine huh
some supposed fucking concrete expert? yaaaa
Yeah, figures you would find scientific truth to be "weird".
You knucklehead.  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142829
9/12/2006 4:05 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
why are you all arguing about how to get blood out of a stone when you should be asking ...
WHO PUSHED THE BUTTON AND WHO GAVE THE ORDER?
thats a real question
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 74465
9/12/2006 6:56 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142867
9/12/2006 7:03 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
Okay, concrete expert, whatever you say. No water in concrete, you say? Ever hear of osmosis and the such? Water seeps into everything.
>>Believe it or not, while concrete appears to be a very dense material, it is in fact quite like a blotter. It can and does absorb water. You can actually see this happen on a hot summer day. Sprinkle some water on your sidewalk or driveway and look very closely. You can actually see the water penetrate the surface of the concrete.
When you spread rock salt on your concrete to melt snow and ice, the salt dissolves the snow and makes a salt water mush. The melting action of the salt allows water to enter the concrete. If the temperature then drops and the water freezes, the growing ice crystals can blast apart the concrete.<< |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 142867
9/12/2006 7:07 PM | | Re: 9-11: This Finnish guy uses the N-word | Quote |
You blow apart concrete into powder and superheat it with a nuclear explosion, it will be very hygroscopic and stick to sweaty people running in the streets like talcum. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 74465
9/12/2006 7:08 PM
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