lol. Australia Refuses to Buy F-35B for Its Military

This (translated) Norwegian article is from last year, but I guess it's still quite up to date.

What is the truth about the F-35?
[link to translate.google.no]

Obama regime scraps A-10 Warthog to keep pumping billions into failed F-35
[link to conservative-headlines.com]

You wouldn't know what freedom is! I'm Australian and I thank the stars I'm not where Americans are at the moment.

If you look at what Obama does it is to make the country weaker in a future battle after he bails out...

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Do as I Tell You: US Senate Gives Direct Orders to Ukrainian PM Yatsenyuk
[link to sptnkne.ws]

Looks like shill and zombie unfunded liabilities are the real target. in a dualistic realm, why would the ether allow one government to preside over effeminate or emasculated men who wouldn't feel it if you cut off their arms? There is no energy gains for the fields yo. and these ptb say they are illuminated? lol. more like projectins of my subconscious.

That's why every time Russian aircraft have gone toe to toe with US aircraft they won the air engagement......

said no one ever.

sound to me like weapon manufacturers are setting up the west to lose ww3

They've got boats and planes, so they don't have to swim! Plus we let billions of Chinese into Australia every day! All they need is enough to buy an education and a house and the unnamed useless ones in Canberra will give them citizenship!

Besides we can all just hide in Alice Springs if anyone invades! Empty the petrol stations and you have to hoof it across deserts with spiders bigger than couches running around. Then there's snakes more venomous than undercooked African food and wildlife in the only cool water around that eats cows let alone people!

I wouldn't want to invade Australia, if you leave the tourist traps where we sell rich Asians cute little stuffed toys.
There's a lot heat and humidity and just general unpleasantness and then there's the Australian Army which just ends up giving people directions when they aimlessly wander about onto defence land and have become lost out in the middle of nowhere where there's no signs.
It's great to camp out in the desert during spring and autumn but go there in winter and freeze or summer and roast.

Besides the local Kiwis have tried invading the Gold Coast for decades and they like it there and they're really mean!

mutually assured destruction. like liquidating a corporation. Chinese, Russian, and US systems are all the same entity needing to be replaced. large populations and perpetual oil consumption to fuel debt based economies is outdated so fake religions, government, and banking systems must go, as well their thug armies, and magistrates. what do you think the well funded Zeitgeist doc is about? shills are just retarded sycophants following another lie, but are really agitators. most are ghey or trannys. they will roll around and do anything for a token, or talisman. like training a dog.

The plane is a scandal. Norway has spent billions on crap.

I get that most everyone is uninformed about most everything.

Known that for years....

But believe me and the overwhelming preponderance of evidence.

All variants of the F35 are fucked. It is a bad idea fucked further by poor execution propped up on an overrated unproven technology (stealth) that has relied on 30 years of mystique perpetuated by a marked lack of air combat and the billions made off selling the stealth snake oil to the morons of America. Planes cannot be Swiss army knives. Airframes, military in particular, MUST be specific to their task. Weight is everything.

In the history of aeronautics...The stillbirth stupidity of F35 is only rivaled in its misguided inception by Hitler's brilliant demand of the Luftwaffe in WWII.

See Hitler loved dive bombers, like kids love tractors. He would stare at them, love up on their pilots (Rudel) and thought they were the bees knees.

He venerated the Stuka, despite the fact it was perhaps the worst and most limited plane in service. Outdated, outgunned, near defenseless...it still seemed really really cool to people that watched newsclips. I can picture Hitler making that Stuka sound while he and Goring played in the bathtub....so hitler, the strategist that he was, made a rule. All Luftwaffe bombers MUST be dive bombers. Single engine, two engine, four engine didn't matter. They MuST be able to dive bomb because...the Stuka 87 was soooo freaking cool! This ridiculous notion, handcuffed every bomber from that point on. The four engine bombers in development and testing Do 19 and Ju 89 were scrapped, (impossible too heavy and large to dive bomb, kesselrings death didn't help either) and all tactical bombers were strapped with a ball and chain. Most pilots knew that would t be dive bombing in their heinkel 177's but it was a requirement so rigidity was an issue and the necessary strengthening of the frame of such a large two engine bomber severely undercut it's operational ability. German bombers often had to use rocket assisted take off. An awkward solution that cries out to the impractical demands placed upon it, by people who didn't quite understand the "bottom line" of warplanes.

Fast forward to another airframe fucked from the word go. Except this time it's far worse, the cheaper, simpler solution to the pricey F22 has become something it was never intended to be...everything for everyone. Just like Americas butt-fucked education system the F35 has become a lowest common denominator, no child left behind type of clusterfuck. It's not even a Jack of all trades as it does almost nothing well and less than 2/3 of what it was intended to do. Vertical takeoff and landing? Not really. And the thrust necessary spalls concrete and ruins decks and runways. Agile? Hell no. CAS capable? Hardly, with the minimal payload. Dogfighting? Hope not. Reliable? a hahahaha. Fast? Nope. Stealth? Keeps getting downgraded in capability, even the Stealth being compromised by the universal Airframe approach... but seriously folks. Stealth is like Siri. So much more awesome to hear about than to have to, you know, rely upon. Why aren't the Russians all worried about stealth...they make better rockets than us? They can get to space and stuff. Are they so dumb they can't even Stealth bro???

Or perhaps they see it for what it is a marketing gimmick and little more. A multi-trillion dollar "Murica, fuck yeah" that makes us feel safe and secure with so few real world results that the only ones satisfied are the ones that keep buying and selling "Stealth" technology.

At least it's cheaper riiigh.....oh fuck. It's even more expensive than the F22. Well goddam. So at this point I'd be actually excited if it came with a 1 year free Sirius/Xm subscription. That would make sense. At least Siri, Sirius and F35 could have nice talks about the good old days when people actually believed that one day, they would all be game changers.

I get that most everyone is uninformed about most everything.

Known that for years....

But believe me and the overwhelming preponderance of evidence.

All variants of the F35 are fucked. It is a bad idea fucked further by poor execution propped up on an overrated unproven technology (stealth) that has relied on 30 years of mystique perpetuated by a marked lack of air combat and the billions made off selling the stealth snake oil to the morons of America. Planes cannot be Swiss army knives. Airframes, military in particular, MUST be specific to their task. Weight is everything.

In the history of aeronautics...The stillbirth stupidity of F35 is only rivaled in its misguided inception by Hitler's brilliant demand of the Luftwaffe in WWII.

See Hitler loved dive bombers, like kids love tractors. He would stare at them, love up on their pilots (Rudel) and thought they were the bees knees.

He venerated the Stuka, despite the fact it was perhaps the worst and most limited plane in service. Outdated, outgunned, near defenseless...it still seemed really really cool to people that watched newsclips. I can picture Hitler making that Stuka sound while he and Goring played in the bathtub....so hitler, the strategist that he was, made a rule. All Luftwaffe bombers MUST be dive bombers. Single engine, two engine, four engine didn't matter. They MuST be able to dive bomb because...the Stuka 87 was soooo freaking cool! This ridiculous notion, handcuffed every bomber from that point on. The four engine bombers in development and testing Do 19 and Ju 89 were scrapped, (impossible too heavy and large to dive bomb, kesselrings death didn't help either) and all tactical bombers were strapped with a ball and chain. Most pilots knew that would t be dive bombing in their heinkel 177's but it was a requirement so rigidity was an issue and the necessary strengthening of the frame of such a large two engine bomber severely undercut it's operational ability. German bombers often had to use rocket assisted take off. An awkward solution that cries out to the impractical demands placed upon it, by people who didn't quite understand the "bottom line" of warplanes.

Fast forward to another airframe fucked from the word go. Except this time it's far worse, the cheaper, simpler solution to the pricey F22 has become something it was never intended to be...everything for everyone. Just like Americas butt-fucked education system the F35 has become a lowest common denominator, no child left behind type of clusterfuck. It's not even a Jack of all trades as it does almost nothing well and less than 2/3 of what it was intended to do. Vertical takeoff and landing? Not really. And the thrust necessary spalls concrete and ruins decks and runways. Agile? Hell no. CAS capable? Hardly, with the minimal payload. Dogfighting? Hope not. Reliable? a hahahaha. Fast? Nope. Stealth? Keeps getting downgraded in capability, even the Stealth being compromised by the universal Airframe approach... but seriously folks. Stealth is like Siri. So much more awesome to hear about than to have to, you know, rely upon. Why aren't the Russians all worried about stealth...they make better rockets than us? They can get to space and stuff. Are they so dumb they can't even Stealth bro???

Or perhaps they see it for what it is a marketing gimmick and little more. A multi-trillion dollar "Murica, fuck yeah" that makes us feel safe and secure with so few real world results that the only ones satisfied are the ones that keep buying and selling "Stealth" technology.

At least it's cheaper riiigh.....oh fuck. It's even more expensive than the F22. Well goddam. So at this point I'd be actually excited if it came with a 1 year free Sirius/Xm subscription. That would make sense. At least Siri, Sirius and F35 could have nice talks about the good old days when people actually believed that one day, they would all be game changers.

The trillion dollar flying hunk of crap!

...because Uncle Sam told us to...or else...

Yep, that's why we're buying them.

Should never have retired the F-111's these things don't even have half the range and that's what's needed as we don't even have one single aircraft carrier.

In terms of personal freedoms, Americans have the edge although they're eroding.

must be broke.

Right now, I'm happy that my daughter chose an Australian to fall in love with..!

I am lebanese catholic in Australia mate have some respect. My family has been here over 100 years. we helped build this.

maybe they have realized that the days of manned fighters are at an end.

1/ POS
2/ CANT DOGFIGHT
3/ A FLYING COFFIN
4/ THE BRITISH GOV WILL BUY THE LOT

HEY PRESTO IT TURNS OUR NEW CARRIERS INTO SHIT

SOUNDS LIKE A BARGAIN

Here's the future cheaper and does the same job
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#3 Be in USA's latest engineered cutting edge warplanes that is probably unable to even take part in the battle due to a maintenance or software issue

There, fixed it for you

They cannot afford it so they will lag behind a little in the technology stakes.

I think Canada cancelled the bulk of the orders and I also recall the government having to pay a fine but also at the same time supposedly a formal agreement was not signed so a lot of misinformation out there, or the government is trying to downplay this derp.

Nah! The Chinese will win the race. Lots of space for them.

lol straya has an airforce? cute

The F-35 has one of the most advanced electronic systems installed on an aircraft ever devised. It has one of the most advanced IRST ever put on an aircraft (Detection range of over 400km). It has one of the most advanced radars ever put on an aircraft. Both the IRST and the radar can be used for ground or air attack mode. Supposedly these systems are to work with its early warning system and weapon system. This is why a lot of early purchasers of the aircraft are not flaking out from the deal. Sure these systems could and will be put on other fighters, but that will take time.

This is the age of the drones. And most likely the F-35 is going to get some very advanced air to air and air to ground weapons that we haven't even heard about yet. This isn't the Vietnam age where missile technology wasn't advanced enough to rely on this tech, because now we can rely on it.

cool story bro

We haven't cancelled it yet. Our Harper government has downplayed it due to the bad press. They're supposedly looking at all of their options now...though I wouldn't hold my breath that something other than the F35 is chosen.

Here in Ottawa they were still advertising the F35 on the sides of our buses a couple of months ago.