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A3 Wreckage Pics in Pentagon Wreckage

 
Chaiyah
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A3 Wreckage Pics in Pentagon Wreckage
Not a 757 at all. A Sky-Hawk, which we suspected.

They always knew Flight 77 never went there.

I wonder what happened to it.

[link to home.att.net]

Anyway, the pictures bring this mystery to a close.
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09/12/2006 10:14 PM
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applause

Well there it is in black & white...cut and dried...cased closed.....now on with the trial of mass murder's......but wait!! I hear the footsteps of the debunkers acomin........ doomsol
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
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Not a 757 at all. A Sky-Hawk, which we suspected.

They always knew Flight 77 never went there.

I wonder what happened to it.

[link to home.att.net]

Anyway, the pictures bring this mystery to a close.
 Quoting: Chaiyah 134421


What a dolt...you don't even know the difference between an A-4 (Skyhawk) and an A-3 Skywarrior.
1rof1

The only similarity between the two is that they were designed and built by Douglas.
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How about just a little common sense.
Look at the 4th pic. Do you see the
size of those flaps? Those are NOT
the flaps from a small jet.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Sorry Dr P....but your dead wrong.... yoda
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
bob9

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How about just a little common sense.
Look at the 4th pic. Do you see the
size of those flaps? Those are NOT
the flaps from a small jet.


Sorry Dr P....but your dead wrong.... yoda
 Quoting: FARTMAN


Please state your aviation experience to be considered an expert on these matters.

BTW, the A-3 Skywarrior never used P&W JT8D's. It was a pure P&W J-57 aircraft. The RB-66 (it's cousin) used Allison J-71's. How come you ninnies don't claim it was an RB-66? They're identical in appearance.

Why not a Dornier 328-Jet - that has two engines underneath a high wing?
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How the hell can anyone tell ANYTHING from those photos?

Puh-leeze.

I would certainly be interested in an aviation expert's analysis of the metal pieces being lifted by those cranes.

Unfortunately my father died 4 months ago... he was the greatest expert on aviation I've ever known, and probably could have identified the plane (or made a best guess at it) just from that photo. Yes, he was that knowledgable, and that good.

My dad was also a staunch died-in-the-wool republican, and thus even if he did suspect funny business on 9-11 he never admitted to it.

I will wonder for the rest of my life if dad was smarter than all the rest of us, or was hiding certain truths, or was fooled by what he BELIEVED to be truths...
FARTMAN

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How about just a little common sense.
Look at the 4th pic. Do you see the
size of those flaps? Those are NOT
the flaps from a small jet.


Sorry Dr P....but your dead wrong.... yoda


Please state your aviation experience to be considered an expert on these matters.
 Quoting: bob9


Please state YOURS to be an official Avior debunk er??? hf
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
bob9

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How about just a little common sense.
Look at the 4th pic. Do you see the
size of those flaps? Those are NOT
the flaps from a small jet.


Sorry Dr P....but your dead wrong.... yoda


Please state your aviation experience to be considered an expert on these matters.


Please state YOURS to be an official Avior debunk er??? hf
 Quoting: FARTMAN


26 years aviation experience.

SimuFlite - pilot/maintenance training
Aeromet - maintenance pubs
Braniff im_a_gay_spammer maintenance planner
Flying Tiger im_a_gay_spammer maintenance
Consultant Aircraft Maintenance Programs
Gulfstream Aerospace - maintenance
KC-135/RC-135
FARTMAN

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How about just a little common sense.
Look at the 4th pic. Do you see the
size of those flaps? Those are NOT
the flaps from a small jet.


Sorry Dr P....but your dead wrong.... yoda


Please state your aviation experience to be considered an expert on these matters.


Please state YOURS to be an official Avior debunk er??? hf


26 years aviation experience.

SimuFlite - pilot/maintenance training
Aeromet - maintenance pubs
Braniff im_a_gay_spammer maintenance planner
Flying Tiger im_a_gay_spammer maintenance
Consultant Aircraft Maintenance Programs
Gulfstream Aerospace - maintenance
KC-135/RC-135
 Quoting: bob9

Cool!!! so you know it wasn't a 757 that trashed the pentagon.... rolleyes
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
FARTMAN

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Sorry Dr P....but your dead wrong....



"My" dead wrong what? And BTW, be
specific on what kind of aircraft
you want to claim hit the Pentagon?
I can then provide you with an image
so that you can compare wing flaps.
Just saying I'm wrong doesn't make it
so.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Groovy Dr P.... Show me the image of the aircraft you think did the damage...... peace
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
FARTMAN

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Come on guys!...DEBUNK!!!! or have you all been abduct up??
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
FARTMAN

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09/12/2006 11:16 PM
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Groovy Dr P.... Show me the image of the aircraft you think did the damage......


[link to www.hairy_ballz]
 Quoting: DrPostman


1rof1 Good one Dr p.....you crazy debunker you. soap still waiting..........??????????
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
FARTMAN

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09/12/2006 11:22 PM
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Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

Just say "NO!" to Luciferian Insectazoids.

"I am not here"...what is here?..Isn't here just there without a T...?
bob9

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How about just a little common sense.
Look at the 4th pic. Do you see the
size of those flaps? Those are NOT
the flaps from a small jet.


Sorry Dr P....but your dead wrong.... yoda


Please state your aviation experience to be considered an expert on these matters.


Please state YOURS to be an official Avior debunk er??? hf


26 years aviation experience.

SimuFlite - pilot/maintenance training
Aeromet - maintenance pubs
Braniff im_a_gay_spammer maintenance planner
Flying Tiger im_a_gay_spammer maintenance
Consultant Aircraft Maintenance Programs
Gulfstream Aerospace - maintenance
KC-135/RC-135

Cool!!! so you know it wasn't a 757 that trashed the pentagon.... rolleyes
 Quoting: FARTMAN


Wrong. It was a 757. Easily identified parts - MLG wheel and RR RB211 diffuser case.

This is the diffuser case off an RB211. I've got access to the maintenance manuals for that engine and what's in the MM matches what appears in the photo.

[link to www.rense.com]

BTW I knew one of the flight attendants on that flight. Ken Lewis. Met him through an ex-gf who was an AA FA.

Good friend of mine knew three on board - two FAs and the Captain.
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How about just a little common sense.
Look at the 4th pic. Do you see the
size of those flaps? Those are NOT
the flaps from a small jet.


Sorry Dr P....but your dead wrong.... yoda


Please state your aviation experience to be considered an expert on these matters.


Please state YOURS to be an official Avior debunk er??? hf


26 years aviation experience.

SimuFlite - pilot/maintenance training
Aeromet - maintenance pubs
Braniff im_a_gay_spammer maintenance planner
Flying Tiger im_a_gay_spammer maintenance
Consultant Aircraft Maintenance Programs
Gulfstream Aerospace - maintenance
KC-135/RC-135

Cool!!! so you know it wasn't a 757 that trashed the pentagon.... rolleyes


Wrong. It was a 757. Easily identified parts - MLG wheel and RR RB211 diffuser case.

This is the diffuser case off an RB211. I've got access to the maintenance manuals for that engine and what's in the MM matches what appears in the photo.

[link to www.rense.com]

BTW I knew one of the flight attendants on that flight. Ken Lewis. Met him through an ex-gf who was an AA FA.

Good friend of mine knew three on board - two FAs and the Captain.
 Quoting: bob9



So the diffuser case of a 757 matches that in the Rense photo? So where's the 155ft wings? Crashes have never reduced the wings of passenger airplanes to confetti. Sorry, but your claim is a highly contentious matter of opinion that would be rejected by many knowledgeable people. If its identification was so clearcut, this component would have been identified by now.
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A country divided will fail!!

A country with no faith in their own government will implode! Fully 47% of USA citizens feel they have not been told the correct story on 911. This figure is growing daily!!

For this reason alone, we must hold an open and honest inquiry into what happened on 911. The wounded soul of our nation is a like a festering sore that must be lanced and drained.

I urge congress to impanel a group of scientist and investigators that are beyond reproach, (not political hacks) given full access to all materials and hold this inquiry in full view of the public.

Lets put this issue behind us one way or another!!!

I urge you to write your congressman and ask for this inquiry. Pls keep your opinions out of this, just ask for an open, honest inquiry.
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I hope you guys remember to tell all the people who think it wasn't an aircraft at all!
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What flag is that in the 4th
picture, flying underneath
the State of Maryland's
flag?
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Umm, those photos prove the wreckage is an A3 how? Care to enlighten us since you supposedly know so much.
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bump bump bump
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"Please state YOURS to be an official Avior debunk er???"

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You're the one claiming that it's an A3 so the burden of proof is upon you.
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Missing Pentagon
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[link to www.rense.com]

this video could clear it up
how come no one is pushing for it?
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

From page 405 of Rockefeller's 2002 book Memoirs.

A vote for the lesser of two evils is
still a vote for evil

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How's this for an expert opinion. This General is an expert in measuring dimensions of objects from photographs.

General States (with emphasis) 757 Did not Hit Pentagon as Government suggests (youtube video)
Two Star General Albert Stubblebine (US Army retired)
[link to www.youtube.com]
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How's this for an expert opinion. This General is an expert in measuring dimensions of objects from photographs.

General States (with emphasis) 757 Did not Hit Pentagon as Government suggests (youtube video)
Two Star General Albert Stubblebine (US Army retired)
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79718


You can post this kind of expert opinion all day long and it won't deter Rumsfeld's PR shills from bombing this thread. The truth just has too much at stake. The PR shills are traitors for hire.

bump
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Why is it that just because someone doesn't believe your claims that it means they're somehow a hired government employee? Do you throw that out there thinking that calling someone names will get them to see your point of view? Or is it because you have nothing else to back your claims with?
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Why is it that just because someone doesn't believe your claims that it means they're somehow a hired government employee? Do you throw that out there thinking that calling someone names will get them to see your point of view? Or is it because you have nothing else to back your claims with?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


yeah, nothing to back the claims except the expert testimony of a US a two star general and photographs.

there's an old saying, shill....that goes..."if the shoe fits, wear it". that applies to you Circuit Breaker...go back to the office for further instructions.

Rumsfeld: U.S. propaganda needs to enter digital age
CNET News.com
"The Pentagon chief said today's weapons of war include e-mail, BlackBerries, instant messaging, digital cameras and blogs."
[link to news.com.com]
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Why is it that just because someone doesn't believe your claims that it means they're somehow a hired government employee? Do you throw that out there thinking that calling someone names will get them to see your point of view? Or is it because you have nothing else to back your claims with?


yeah, nothing to back the claims except the expert testimony of a US a two star general and photographs.

there's an old saying, shill....that goes..."if the shoe fits, wear it". that applies to you Circuit Breaker...go back to the office for further instructions.

Rumsfeld: U.S. propaganda needs to enter digital age
CNET News.com
"The Pentagon chief said today's weapons of war include e-mail, BlackBerries, instant messaging, digital cameras and blogs."
[link to news.com.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59884



I told you the shills were going to bomb this thread AC 59884. This is the most important propaganda they have to defend, because all else rests on the 911 lies. the likes of Circuit Breaker are just paid, treasonous grunts working for some PR firm with a government contract.


The Project For The New American Century (PNAC)
signatories to the "Statement of Principles"
Elliott Abrams, Gary Bauer, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Midge Decter, Paula Dobriansky, Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Fred C. Ikle, Donald Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis Libby, Norman Podhoretz, Dan Quayle, Peter W. Rodman, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald Rumsfeld, Vin Weber, George Weigel, Paul Wolfowitz.
Page 51:
"A transformation strategy that solely pursued capabilities for projecting force from the United States, for example, and sacrificed forward basing and presence, would be at odds with larger American policy goals and would trouble American allies. FURTHER, THE PROCESS OF TRANSFORMATION, EVEN IF IT BRINGS REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE, IS LIKELY TO BE A LONG ONE, ABSENT SOME CATASTROPHIC AND CATALYZING EVENT - LIKE A NEW PEARL HARBOR." - September 2000
[link to www.newamericancentury.org]
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[link to www.hairy_ballz]

I am betting that this link won't get past the happy bunny fairy...
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[link to www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com]

I am betting that this link won't get past the happy bunny fairy...

Ayuh...Banned...

rolleyes

Replace the x's with

a-b,o-v-e,t=o-p=s,e-c=r-e=t

without all the crap in it...
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[link to www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com]

I am betting that this link won't get past the happy bunny fairy...

Ayuh...Banned...

rolleyes

Replace the x's with

a-b,o-v-e,t=o-p=s,e-c=r-e=t

without all the crap in it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 143493


which is run by the CIA according to an awful lot of people, and that would make sense because this is a link to a pro official government. story which is about as convincing as the popular mechanics hit job.

That would make you another one of Rumsfeld's PR shills.

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