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Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...

 
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I posted this weeks ago. And you are wrong, the trough of the cooling is in 2030, it starts around 2020 and lasts until 2040, with temps NEVER coming back to what we have experienced so far for the next several hundred years...


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It Has Already Begin!!!!
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first they said this would already start last year lol.

Extreme weather events are guaranteed for the future thought.
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Better start investing in Snuggie stocks
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A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.


I have often wondered this very thing. Now it seems we have a theory that increases accuracy of sun cycles to 97%.

Which also indicates a coming ice age by 2030, only 15 years away.
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Just my observations the tree huggers have everything backwards.

The sun has been wanning for a tad but since the 50s uvb and c has climbed probably in tandem to skin cancer rates the weather has got odder and 2000 the doom point the sun recorded the lowest amount of zits durring a peak and still hit with a carbon tax even on bull plop from gov. Com.

Still no real improvement but when the zits pop boy do they cause panic amongst the nerds whatching.

I did have dreams in the early 2000s about heavy snow in the uk but time will tell as nerds tell us the snow is still on ground till the next snows come next snowy season .

Doom point never saw it m8les high suggesting time is short for all
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first they said this would already start last year lol.

Extreme weather events are guaranteed for the future thought.
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We could be looking at a war between the 1% and the world trying to con the minions in to steady state theory via harp and the alum8num they (hushed tones) spray in to the atmosphear.
Knowing that 20 years is all it takes to be more than knee deep in snow every day of the year
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A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.


I have often wondered this very thing. Now it seems we have a theory that increases accuracy of sun cycles to 97%.

Which also indicates a coming ice age by 2030, only 15 years away.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Wrong. The article stated nothing of the sort.

If the activity of the sun decreases, but we have greenhouse gases increasing, the net effect could very well be an increase in global temperatures. It depends on how much CO2 and CH4 we have in the atmosphere offsetting the sun's alleged decreased activity.
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You are correct.
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[link to phys.org]

A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.


I have often wondered this very thing. Now it seems we have a theory that increases accuracy of sun cycles to 97%.

Which also indicates a coming ice age by 2030, only 15 years away.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Wrong. The article stated nothing of the sort.

If the activity of the sun decreases, but we have greenhouse gases increasing, the net effect could very well be an increase in global temperatures. It depends on how much CO2 and CH4 we have in the atmosphere offsetting the sun's alleged decreased activity.
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bsflag shill
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We won't make it that long. The world wants to fight. It's apparent. I hope whoever is left runs this shit a little better than what we have today. I'll be dead by 2030. So fuckin what.
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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
Well the UK is buggered!

We grind to a halt over everything and anything these days. Us British are obsessed with the weather...it's like the national past time to talk about it. Hence all the ridiculous stories from the Mail and Express along the lines of hottest/coldest/wettest/driest since the world was formed lol

Last winter my area had one snow storm, the year before we had no snow at all, the previous 2 there was more snow than i have ever seen! The UK has 15 years to prepare!!
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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
[link to phys.org]

A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.


I have often wondered this very thing. Now it seems we have a theory that increases accuracy of sun cycles to 97%.

Which also indicates a coming ice age by 2030, only 15 years away.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Wrong. The article stated nothing of the sort.

If the activity of the sun decreases, but we have greenhouse gases increasing, the net effect could very well be an increase in global temperatures. It depends on how much CO2 and CH4 we have in the atmosphere offsetting the sun's alleged decreased activity.
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bsflag shill
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Read a book. Or two.
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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
[link to phys.org]

A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.


I have often wondered this very thing. Now it seems we have a theory that increases accuracy of sun cycles to 97%.

Which also indicates a coming ice age by 2030, only 15 years away.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Wrong. The article stated nothing of the sort.

If the activity of the sun decreases, but we have greenhouse gases increasing, the net effect could very well be an increase in global temperatures. It depends on how much CO2 and CH4 we have in the atmosphere offsetting the sun's alleged decreased activity.
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Please offer proof to ofsett the lies offered

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I remember as a child in the 70's the science programs talking about a mini ice age.
POTUS and the eco-terrorist will never admit their ignorance.
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Some things you have to live throught to understand the ploop being sold today
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I remember as a child in the 70's the science programs talking about a mini ice age.
POTUS and the eco-terrorist will never admit their ignorance.
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My teacher was a hippy in the 70's, seriously. Cool teacher and he said my class would be in their 50's or early 60's when it hit. 56 now!
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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
useless info.remember how scientists were claining that this solar max cycle will be awesome.but it failed miserably to impress us in last two or three years.similarly I am sure scientists cant be sure about impending solar minimus or mini ice age.sun,s behavior is unpredictable and scientists cant even predict earth,s earthquakes so predicting about solar chemistry and physics is a fools dream
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Wrong. Most said this would be a slow Cycle 24 and they were right. Where you might be thinking, is that we would have a few major solar storms. These happened but nothing like what has been normal for the past century !!
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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
[link to phys.org]

A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.


I have often wondered this very thing. Now it seems we have a theory that increases accuracy of sun cycles to 97%.

Which also indicates a coming ice age by 2030, only 15 years away.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Wrong. The article stated nothing of the sort.

If the activity of the sun decreases, but we have greenhouse gases increasing, the net effect could very well be an increase in global temperatures. It depends on how much CO2 and CH4 we have in the atmosphere offsetting the sun's alleged decreased activity.
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bsflag shill
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Read a book. Or two.
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Algae plooms and methanotrophs increase with their food increase: these green house gases. It is clear that algae plooms would cause further warming of the oceans, but a balance may very well come about in which these organisms are able to consume as much as they are fed after which a normalization would occur.

There is something for you to think about instead of assuming that gases would not be eliminated by our own evolving ecosystems.

Do your own research BTW.

So, I find your speculation null. Back to the thread premise.
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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
There are other as yet unknown factors that change orbital mechanics of the earth, combined with the solar cycle it could in less than a decade plunge the world into a bitter cold ice age.

Imagine temps in the equatorial regions of earth averaging around what would be considered "normal" in January-February in the extreme northern US states and Canada.

-60 for a daytime high in Houston? (No wind chill)

Now imagine the impact on civilization, crops, livestock, energy etc....

But first we've got to make it that far, doesn't look like we will right now.

Either way, enjoy life while you can.
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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
accurate prediction of solar behavior is beyond our power...even scientists admit that.so ice age seems improbable.
if ice age was just a decade away from us we had seen some signs pointing to it.like growing of ice cover and glaciers.but according to all scietists the glaciers and ice cover is retreating in most places of earth.we don't need scientists opinions infact as our own elders can tell us how glaciers retreated from era of their childhood.no one tells about a growing glacier!
arctic is losing its ice cover and people know it and no scientist needs to tell them that.

so for whatever reasons the weather is becoming extreme..and there will be big weather related catastrophes ,and this is guarentteed
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OH FUCKEN REALLY ITS NOT LIKE I SAID THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS So Many Stupid People in this World..


It's amazing if someone really new shitt about something and had hard evidence to back it up all the morons on here would not believe it.

Who cares the stupid people loose in the end Anyways.
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Man you present yourself very intelligently. And eloquently as well.
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Let's face it, plenty of western civilization needs a good kick up the ass anyway. Bring it on. it will defiantly separate the weak (SJW's & feminists) from the chaff (real men and women).
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Let's face it, plenty of western civilization needs a good kick up the ass anyway. Bring it on. it will defiantly separate the weak (SJW's & feminists) from the chaff (real men and women).
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I'm there!
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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
accurate prediction of solar behavior is beyond our power...even scientists admit that.so ice age seems improbable.
if ice age was just a decade away from us we had seen some signs pointing to it.like growing of ice cover and glaciers.but according to all scietists the glaciers and ice cover is retreating in most places of earth.we don't need scientists opinions infact as our own elders can tell us how glaciers retreated from era of their childhood.no one tells about a growing glacier!
arctic is losing its ice cover and people know it and no scientist needs to tell them that.

so for whatever reasons the weather is becoming extreme..and there will be big weather related catastrophes ,and this is guarentteed
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THIS

Climate scientists study earths atmosphere - not astronomy or planetary science

Astronomers study the cosmos - not atmospheric sciences.

We don't have all the pieces of the puzzle visible yet. How can we make an accurate predictions not knowing all the systems or how they relate to each other. We are getting there, but there are more holes than answers at this point.
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A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.


I have often wondered this very thing. Now it seems we have a theory that increases accuracy of sun cycles to 97%.

Which also indicates a coming ice age by 2030, only 15 years away.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Nothing personal buddy, but my weather people in the sunshine state can't predict the weather with much accuracy at all, day to day. So they know what's happening 15 years down the road. In the 70's it was an ice age coming, then the 90's a global warming event. Now a mini ice age again. I flagged this as total bullshit, sorry.
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try following real weathermen, like Joe Bastardi, who pinpointed Sandy's landfall on Long Island more than a week before it happened.

his site is called weatherbell analytics, on Saturdays he does a free audio summary of the week ahead.
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It's hard to believe when your living in the south in these damn 95+ degree days. And already been 100 already 2 weeks ago. Makes you wonder don't it.
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In the mid 1970's, had a teacher that said we kids would be in our late 50's early 60's when we saw the ice age return. I am now in my mid 50's. That teacher was dead serious and knew blaming it on the sun and something to do with the poles but I don't remember much about that, only about the sun and the coming ice age. He told us we needed to be ready for there would be famine as crop failures would be the norm.

There was a big stink back then about a coming ice age, then the WH shutting the story down saying it wasn't real, that only conspiracy theorist and nut-jobs believed such a thing. They have known for 40 years what was coming.

So tell me, did they know the SUN was going to go to sleep? How did they know that, that accurately back then?? I know there are cycles that are mostly predictable but not Grand Solar Minimums. Those are something they typically look BACK ON to learn from.
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I once remember hearing about a solar lens used to see the inner heart beat of the Sun.

Whether it is real or not idk. However, it had lenses that focused the light. One after the other, continuing to focus the light from the previous lens. Outer bands kept being focused and was then capable of actually seeing a rhythmic pulse.

The heart beat was getting weaker over time.

It was, at first, a simple project from a college student. I got attention, legs and then was made quiet.

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Re: Scientists discover evidence for a 2030 Mini Ice Age coming...
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A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.


I have often wondered this very thing. Now it seems we have a theory that increases accuracy of sun cycles to 97%.

Which also indicates a coming ice age by 2030, only 15 years away.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Nothing personal buddy, but my weather people in the sunshine state can't predict the weather with much accuracy at all, day to day. So they know what's happening 15 years down the road. In the 70's it was an ice age coming, then the 90's a global warming event. Now a mini ice age again. I flagged this as total bullshit, sorry.
 Quoting: BlondieEastwood


Agreed, though this is a different type of forecast.

Similar to forecasting a cold house if the heater was running slower.

A dimming solar output is easy to predict a decline in temps. Though many unknowns certainly can alter what we perceive.





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