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Fractals & Biblical History

 
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<< When we get to the end of this Bigger Picture, what we are left with is the Restoration of All Things >>

Also touches upon the fractal nature of intercession.
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a series of initial conditions tend to reiterate till they are "perfect", unless we improve our consciousness sufficiently to return to the past and undo those conditions.
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very good OP glad to see a few do understand.
Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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I'm not op but Here's one from YHWH

I AM that I AM

Yahushua

"If you have seen me you have seen the Father."

"The Father is greater than I"
Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.
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Yes.

"Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place." ~Psalm 51:6~
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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I understand that there are massive portions of God's fanclub prone to discard the concept since the word "fractal" does not appear in our leavened English bibles, but fractals are found all through God's creation, and for those able to recognize patterns, they're evident in history & scriptural events. It's simply another type of symbolism.

For the most part, the accounts in the bible are all the same story, each offering more data from different angles & perspectives in order to paint the full picture. One of the simplest and most basic premises is that death provides compost from which new life emerges. For example, the ordeals of Joseph depict God's plan for the Body of Christ: a noble birth and/or calling (as confirmed by his dreams), his rejection & apparent death -> learning responsibility & faith through servitude and apparent injustices -> eventual promotion and authority for the purpose of issuing widespread blessing. Similarly, Moses had a high calling, (but set out to fulfill it via carnal means) and fled to the wilderness, where he spent decades in the mundane quiet of the desert learning to do things God's way, and was eventually brought full circle to act as deliverer.

God typically starts small, but His Kingdom will grow until it fills the whole earth. The bible basically provides the blueprint of how He does this, and if we're inclined, He seems to enjoy elaborating upon the why. . .though I know not everyone is so inclined. Most are content within the bars of the playpen (no offense).


Here's some fascinating stuff from a great resource for anyone interested on the topic:

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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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"IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE,
THERE ARE MANY ROOMS." [John 14:2]


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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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"IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE,
THERE ARE MANY ROOMS." [John 14:2]


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 Quoting: halman


Right. A contrasting example would be for someone to cite where Jesus talks about sorting sheep & goats, and declare "The bible is obviously about farm animals, not people."

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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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I'm not op but Here's one from YHWH

I AM that I AM

Yahushua

"If you have seen me you have seen the Father."

"The Father is greater than I"
 Quoting: Michael.


OK. Here is the definition of fractal

"a curve or geometric figure, each part of which has the same statistical character as the whole. Fractals are useful in modeling structures (such as eroded coastlines or snowflakes) in which similar patterns recur at progressively smaller scales, and in describing partly random or chaotic phenomena such as crystal growth, fluid turbulence, and galaxy formation."

Jesus was not saying that God the Father looked like Him. He was saying that God the Father's spiritual characteristics are the same as His.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Fractals are physical. Fractals are part of the Creation.
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70569325


"IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE,
THERE ARE MANY ROOMS." [John 14:2]


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 Quoting: halman


Right. A contrasting example would be for someone to cite where Jesus talks about sorting sheep & goats, and declare "The bible is obviously about farm animals, not people."

cheers
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Touché.
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70569325


I'm not op but Here's one from YHWH

I AM that I AM

Yahushua

"If you have seen me you have seen the Father."

"The Father is greater than I"
 Quoting: Michael.


OK. Here is the definition of fractal

"a curve or geometric figure, each part of which has the same statistical character as the whole. Fractals are useful in modeling structures (such as eroded coastlines or snowflakes) in which similar patterns recur at progressively smaller scales, and in describing partly random or chaotic phenomena such as crystal growth, fluid turbulence, and galaxy formation."

Jesus was not saying that God the Father looked like Him. He was saying that God the Father's spiritual characteristics are the same as His.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Fractals are physical. Fractals are part of the Creation.
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And yet your understanding of HaShem is based upon what is purely perceived, physical?

G-d is a Spirit and HIS manifestations are made known both in the physical, and the spiritual realities.

I'm not disagreeing with you yet don't limit or base your understanding on 'fractals' based upon how men describe them or perceive them. Personally, I'm not in need of Webster to tell me what a 'fractal' is .

Prophecies are fractal, certain ones.
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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This applies to many things. Sounds like a great rule of thumb for all Christians.

If he didn't talk about it, it doesn't matter.

I love it!
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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I'm not op but Here's one from YHWH

I AM that I AM

Yahushua

"If you have seen me you have seen the Father."

"The Father is greater than I"
 Quoting: Michael.


"THE BIG WE" & the "the little us"

HF
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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"IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE,
THERE ARE MANY ROOMS." [John 14:2]


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 Quoting: halman


This describes the Infinite and Holographic Universe
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This was interesting to listen to, OP, thanks for posting.


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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70569325


I'm not op but Here's one from YHWH

I AM that I AM

Yahushua

"If you have seen me you have seen the Father."

"The Father is greater than I"
 Quoting: Michael.


Which is different than Elohim.

Two names for God.
One singular.
One plural.

Not quite a fractal but working on it.
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"Fractals & History" is a sufficient title. No need to bring god into the topic right off the bat. It almost defeats the argument and creates an oxymoron.

However, looked at as a sample of a large swath of linear history, the bible is a good place to spot such patterns, so I give you that.. I haven't even gotten past the title yet before needing to reply. It caused a reaction because I often point out that the bible is useful as a means to see the cyclical nature of time. "Revelations" is a perpetually recurring state/event as well as a psychological process of "dying to your old self"..and being reborn..

Carry on...
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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Somebody talked about wheels within wheels... same difference.
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OP, quote the Bible verses where Jesus talked about fractals.

If He did not talk about them, then they don't matter.
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Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.

Matthew 7:17
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Yes.

"Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place." ~Psalm 51:6~
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John the Baptist, not yet born, leapt for joy in his mother's womb when the pregnant Mary first came near.
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Yes.

"Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place." ~Psalm 51:6~
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John the Baptist, not yet born, leapt for joy in his mother's womb when the pregnant Mary first came near.
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And Athena lept from her fathers brow fully formed.
Ah history and so forth.
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Yes.

"Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place." ~Psalm 51:6~
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John the Baptist, not yet born, leapt for joy in his mother's womb when the pregnant Mary first came near.
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John was at least six years senior to his second cousin Jesus so that was a long pregnancy.
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Here's one

"It's a helluva start, it could be made into a monster, if we all pull together as a team.
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Here's one

"It's a helluva start, it could be made into a monster, if we all pull together as a team.
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pull?
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Here's one

"It's a helluva start, it could be made into a monster, if we all pull together as a team.
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pull?
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It's a tug-o-war sometimes
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Here's one

"It's a helluva start, it could be made into a monster, if we all pull together as a team.
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pull?
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It's a tug-o-war sometimes
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