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ChristianLight (OP) User ID: 69428509 United States 07/18/2015 04:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This question is considered one of the top arguments against Atheism. The attempt to answer the question results in the final answer always being "We just happen to have morals" There have been several hour long lectures by leading Atheists attempting to explain why we have morals. Yet it doesn't seem like anything else around us follows a moral compass, but a naturally created compass versus one of free will. God created man, and man learned Good and Evil through falling from God, by eating the forbidden fruit, it is this knowledge that drives our moral compass, our knowledge of Good and Evil. Where does our moral compass come from? From our knowledge of Good and Evil, and from God. ChristianLight |
ChristianLight (OP) User ID: 69428509 United States 07/18/2015 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not nice, and you don't want to live in a world where it's accepted. Quoting: It's all Relative I'm sorry for you that you only behave out of fear of hell. It is true, that the catalyst for many people who enter the religion as a young Christian is that the thought of Hell is a horrible aspect. As you grow with Christ, you realize that not only is hell terrible, but not being with your loved ones and living with God in heaven forever, is thousands fold much worse than hell could ever be. To fear hell makes you wise, but to love God and want to be with him forever, makes you even wiser. ChristianLight |
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Doommincus Maximus User ID: 69771560 New Zealand 07/18/2015 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This question is considered one of the top arguments against Atheism. The attempt to answer the question results in the final answer always being "We just happen to have morals" There have been several hour long lectures by leading Atheists attempting to explain why we have morals. Yet it doesn't seem like anything else around us follows a moral compass, but a naturally created compass versus one of free will. Quoting: ChristianLight God created man, and man learned Good and Evil through falling from God, by eating the forbidden fruit, it is this knowledge that drives our moral compass, our knowledge of Good and Evil. Where does our moral compass come from? From our knowledge of Good and Evil, and from God. LOL, this is one of the top arguments against Atheism. Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69583317 Canada 07/18/2015 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. 1 Samuel 15:3 New International Version (NIV) 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” Really I could go on and on with bible quotes telling people to kill. And if it's not telling people to kill , it's telling them to "turn the other cheek" in the worst ways. 1 Peter 2:18-25 New International Version (NIV) 18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. Ephesians 6:5 New International Version (NIV) 5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. The bible is insane. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68474273 United States 07/18/2015 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even atheists realize some of the tenets outlined in the bible, not because any god said them but because they are common sense. This common sense existed since the dawn of consciousness, eons before any scriptures. The main one and the one that covers pretty much everything is the golden rule. In this case, if you don't want to get murdered yourself, do not murder others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1142397 United States 07/18/2015 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not an atheist, but I understand the intent of your question. First, if you don't do bad things only because a greater authority says not to.... I suggest some serious introspection. What's wrong with murdering another human?... Theirs is not your life to take. You are robbing them of what is theirs by birthright. Just as you wouldn't want someone to steal your life from you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69799841 New Zealand 07/18/2015 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, since there is no God in your mind and we're all a work of nature. And in nature we see Animals killing each other, for food and territory. What's wrong with killing my neighbor for his food and his house? And if you think this question is ridiculous, because we have a "Moral" compass. Why would we be the only species on the planet to have one, and where did it come from? Last Edited by ChristianLight on 07/18/2015 04:46 AM Now this will be fun i am so going to enjoy your so stupid questions. 1-Christains have been murdering people since the beginning of time-surley you know this to be true..ru a retard??? fast forward to Iraq afganistan i mean really how stupid are you. ps G Bush is a christain 2-Back in the day to survive you may have killed your neighbour but as history shows as we as a species learnt to harvest and cultivate food socities evolved..i mean ru dumb? 3-All species have a moral compass you dont see in nature the mother duck eating her bloody off spring do you! so one could argue ducks have a moral compass ,,but make no mistake if she were hungry enough she might. Humans too are the same, morality evoled with evolution capitalism too..whether its good or bad varies with degree.. in answer to your question a state of nature where once existed through fierce competition for resources was replaced over time and a basic set of survival rules /morales evolved...and ive said all this without bringing god into the equation. Spend some more time reading history ,funny thing is it seems to repeat. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69800317 Sweden 07/18/2015 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, since there is no God in your mind and we're all a work of nature. And in nature we see Animals killing each other, for food and territory. Quoting: ChristianLight What's wrong with killing my neighbor for his food and his house? And if you think this question is ridiculous, because we have a "Moral" compass. Why would we be the only species on the planet to have one, and where did it come from? Its not beneficial for long term survival to murder your own kind. You don't need religion to come to that conclusion, just intelligence. |
ChristianLight (OP) User ID: 69428509 United States 07/18/2015 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The question got the results I expected, you surpassed morality and went straight into why you shouldn't murder and said it was "natural" or unhealthy to murder your own kind in the long run. That's called Morality, we don't kill because we know it's wrong. Animals murder their own kind, and the kind of others all day with out the conflict of morality it's the natural progression God made for them. God gave us free will, and we stole the knowledge of Good and Evil, if it wasn't for that moment in time, we would of known no evil and this conversation wouldn't exist. Atheists, simply can not answer "What is morality" and "Where did it come from" to any scientific extent. If you can't prove something through science as an Atheist than you're having faith that it is scientific, but in reality it's not. ChristianLight |
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ChristianLight (OP) User ID: 69428509 United States 07/18/2015 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, is a long term Christian who is looking to show the folly of being an Atheist. Last Edited by ChristianLight on 07/18/2015 02:48 PM ChristianLight |