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Texas Twister User ID: 67062213 United States 08/06/2015 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sum laws [link to www.ehlinelaw.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69887598 United States 08/06/2015 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is california, cops gotta arrest drug dealers and gang members so when you are video taping them for no reason they don't know if you are the brother of Tupac Mendoza or whatever and you're gonna assassinate him or what but once he found out you're not that he left. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69737665 United States 08/06/2015 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you stick a camera in a cop's face, believe me, he is itching for a reason to take you to jail. Section 148(a)(1) of the California Penal Code gives him the authority to do so if he believes that you are making his job more difficult or more time-consuming than necessary. |
Navarro User ID: 69035899 United States 08/06/2015 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So he's concerned that the man filming might be one of those "constitutional crazy guys." How not shocking that the cop who doesn't respect the highest law of the land, is the same cop who'll draw his weapon and strut around with it in his hand hanging at his side like some kind of thug. Why'd he break contact so quickly? Because he knew he was in the wrong. That departments investigation need not go any further than that. It's an internal investigation though. They're not going to find their buddy out of policy, despite that Officer Treason (finds the constituon crazy) was walking around with his gun drawn while he had his back to the dangerous suspect. There, again, we find evidence of what was happening there. The officer didn't turn his back to someone he deemed an immediate lethal threat. Thus, what could his motivation have been? Quite obviously, intimidation. Officer Treason then intentionally intimidated a resident while utilizing the threat of lethal force to do so. He thinks he's above the law, but that's not the case. That renegade cop is in violation of the law. He's a criminal, and should be stripped of his gun and badge and locked up with the rest of the scumbags who would threaten murder. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69490459 United States 08/06/2015 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't always recored people, some pervert with google glasses could go in the girls bathroom and film your child ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69737665 No jack ass just because your car can go 140 that doesn't mean you can ... And like it or not just because you have a camera, you cant film anybody you want too .. Its amazing everybody on this sight is an expert in every topic .... They come out of the wood work like educated Ninjas that nobody has ever seen until now ... And then they will vanish until the next crisis happens and than the experts will show up again ... Hey Dipshit There's an expectation of privacy in the restroom. Per case law. Some of us actually have college degrees and are educated on the law. In the open outside you or anyone else can record cops or people going about. You need to do some learning. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69737665 United States 08/06/2015 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't always recored people, some pervert with google glasses could go in the girls bathroom and film your child ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69737665 No jack ass just because your car can go 140 that doesn't mean you can ... And like it or not just because you have a camera, you cant film anybody you want too .. Its amazing everybody on this sight is an expert in every topic .... They come out of the wood work like educated Ninjas that nobody has ever seen until now ... And then they will vanish until the next crisis happens and than the experts will show up again ... Hey Dipshit There's an expectation of privacy in the restroom. Per case law. Some of us actually have college degrees and are educated on the law. In the open outside you or anyone else can record cops or people going about. You need to do some learning. Hi Cock Holster, No you do not have my permission to record me or my family for your gay porn.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69490459 United States 08/06/2015 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are operating in California, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any conversation that common sense tells you might be "private" or "confidential." In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the California wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See Cal. Penal Code § 637.2. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69737665 This doesn't apply to people recording in public. There is no expectation of privacy out in the open. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69490459 United States 08/06/2015 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't always recored people, some pervert with google glasses could go in the girls bathroom and film your child ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69737665 No jack ass just because your car can go 140 that doesn't mean you can ... And like it or not just because you have a camera, you cant film anybody you want too .. Its amazing everybody on this sight is an expert in every topic .... They come out of the wood work like educated Ninjas that nobody has ever seen until now ... And then they will vanish until the next crisis happens and than the experts will show up again ... Hey Dipshit There's an expectation of privacy in the restroom. Per case law. Some of us actually have college degrees and are educated on the law. In the open outside you or anyone else can record cops or people going about. You need to do some learning. Hi Cock Holster, No you do not have my permission to record me or my family for your gay porn.. Huh? WTF are u saying? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69971008 Australia 08/06/2015 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are operating in California, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any conversation that common sense tells you might be "private" or "confidential." In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the California wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See Cal. Penal Code § 637.2. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69737665 I already posted that big mouth. There is nothing to suggest that conversation might be private and confidential and the fact that the PD concerned didn't even mention the filming was an issue. Recording conversations eg telephone calls require both/all parties consent. You don't even know the law. Again you're talking shit big mouth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69971008 Australia 08/06/2015 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ACLU v. Alvarez, 679 F.3d 583 (2012). There, the ACLU successfully won an injunction to prevent enforcement of an Illinois eavesdropping statute. The law prohibited any recording of any conversation unless all parties consented to the recording, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69737665 Eaves dropping concerns private calls you dummy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69971008 Australia 08/06/2015 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your Right to Take Videos and Photographs When in outdoor public spaces where you are legally present, you have the right to capture any image that is in plain view (see note below about sound recording). That includes pictures and videos of federal buildings, transportation facilities (including airports), and police officers. When you are on private property, the property owner sets the rules about the taking of photographs or videos. If you disobey property owners' rules, they can order you off their property (and have you arrested for trespassing if you do not comply). Police should not order you to stop taking pictures or video. Under no circumstances should they demand that you delete your photographs or video. Police officers may order citizens to cease activities that are truly interfering with legitimate law enforcement operations. In general, a court will trust an officer's judgment about what is "interfering" more than yours. So if an officer orders you to stand back, do so. If the officer says he/she will arrest you if you continue to use your camera, in most circumstances it is better to put the camera away and call the ACLU for help, rather than risking arrest. Police officers may not generally confiscate or demand to view your photographs or video or search the contents your cell phone without a warrant. In addition, it is possible that courts may approve the seizure of a camera in some circumstances if police have a reasonable, good-faith belief that it contains evidence of a crime by someone other than the police themselves (it is unsettled whether they still need a warrant to view them). (Note: This section has been updated to reflect the June 2014 US Supreme Court decision in Riley v. California, in which the court held that police need a warrant to search a cellphone.) pwned. [link to www.aclupa.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14385938 United States 08/06/2015 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You idiots ever been targeted by the police? I have. In two weeks in our small town, I got two tickets for 36 in a 30 and one for not coming to a complete stop. Because I turned my wheel a tiny bit as I was at a complete stop, watching the officer on my bumper. Those tickets cost over 800 dollars. I was pulled over 5 times in two weeks. When you have been harassed by police you get sick of it and their intimidation pretty quick. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69971008 Australia 08/06/2015 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't always recored people, some pervert with google glasses could go in the girls bathroom and film your child ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69737665 No jack ass just because your car can go 140 that doesn't mean you can ... And like it or not just because you have a camera, you cant film anybody you want too .. Its amazing everybody on this sight is an expert in every topic .... They come out of the wood work like educated Ninjas that nobody has ever seen until now ... And then they will vanish until the next crisis happens and than the experts will show up again ... Hey Dipshit There's an expectation of privacy in the restroom. Per case law. Some of us actually have college degrees and are educated on the law. In the open outside you or anyone else can record cops or people going about. You need to do some learning. Hi Cock Holster, No you do not have my permission to record me or my family for your gay porn.. Lol wut? You and your family partake in gay activities. You sicko! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69855740 Russia 08/06/2015 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the executive who is ultimately responsible for the actions of the officers under their charge fails to fire this psycho cop then he/she is intentionally sending the message that this unjustified drawing of a service firearm is acceptable in their agency or department. This would constitute gross incompetence in my opinion. Local elected officials must be brought to bear on this situation to get these psycho (or negligent) cops under control - and to protect the public from harm. Any cop who pulls out a firearm while on duty should be immediately given a drug test to check for use of illegal steroids, amphetamines, etc... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50425590 United States 08/06/2015 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Truthserum So, you don't think what I said is true? You don't think it a bad idea to approach a police officer and acting a bit "off" with your hand in your pocket? You do realize that is ALL I said? Apparently it is you who lacks common sense.....and is the fucking moron. Again, this isn't fucking Baghdad. It's a clean suburb with a guy working on his boat. The only reason this guy is acting "off" is because of a harassing police officer. The PO is 100% causing the problem here, and at any time he could have driven off as there was clearly no crime taking place. Where do you live that this act by the police would be acceptable? Stop being an idiot. "Harrassing"? Nobody was being harrassed...the guy in the video voices he believes he is being personally harrassed but why? Because a cop was driving around the neighorhood slowly? and the gun wasn't drawn until the guy approached the cops car with his hand in his pocket...a fact you keep trying to overlook. That aside, you are now telling us we don't want cops to patrol our neighborhoods looking for possible criminals? Seriously...that is off limits for them now? and asfar as Baghdad? So, we haven't had any cops shot as they sat in their patrol cars or responded to calls in this country recently? I asked the local police to come do a drive by of my house last week..I had heard noises outside my front door that made me nervous....I sure am glad this idiot wasn't there when I had made the call..someone might have gotten shot. The guy clearly states "you guys have done enough to my family" then he says " you department is corrupt" You really have no clue. Is it me or did the cop say, "Copy this is the guy." That would imply this was not a random stop. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 08/06/2015 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Published on Aug 3, 2015 Quoting: TriggerFish "Are you some kind of Constitutionalist crazy guy?"?!? WTF?!? Prior to pulling out my camera and hitting record this cop pulled slowly into my court then just stopped infront of my house for a good 30 seconds while I was trying to hook my boat up to my Excursion. I stood up and just watched him. He ever so slowly pulled away, circled the court opposite my house and then just parked facing my house. After an honest couple of minutes I pulled out my camera and pressed record. As minor as some would say it was, when I saw his gun gripped in his hand I really thought he was going to shoot me and claim my hand was in my pocket Message about video of Rohnert Park Public Safety Officer Posted Date: 8/4/2015 Regarding video of Rohnert Park Public Safety Officer: We’ve been made aware of this matter and we are taking it seriously. We understand the concerns that have been raised by our community and others and we want the public to know that your trust in law enforcement in our City is a top priority. As a result, we will conduct an internal review to verify that appropriate protocols were followed. We will also review our protocols because we want to make sure we are using the best practices for the highest level of safety for both our officers and the community. Mayor Amy Ahanotu and City Manager Darrin Jenkins [link to www.ci.rohnert-park.ca.us] You approach a cop car with your hand in your pocket after filming him for no reason you are almost always gonna cause that cop to draw his weapon....perhaps a little more common sense next time? who approached who? In the video I saw the costumed badge holder got out of his car with a drawn sidearm and advanced on a man in the driveway of his own home. Did you see a different video other than the one posted here? Last Edited by s. d. butler on 08/06/2015 04:17 AM |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 08/06/2015 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one of my sons started doing shit like this I would try and explain to him why that's a really stupid thing to do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69967628 I mean it's weird behaviour to stare someone down with a camera. Like it would have been far more sensible to film covertly if he wanted to expose some shennanigins, not stand there like a lemon, facing someone and pointing a camera at them. Go and try that on the street and you're gonna get fucked up by someone, it's stoopid behaviour. I mean look at the context, if the cameraman had been witness to some bigger event ( a riot maybe ) then sure, it makes sense, but he wasn't... He was just a random loon pointing a camera at a passing cop, and the passing cop thought, WTF? Turns out the passing cop was a softy and thought "yeah just a loon" and he moved on without incident. If that cameraman continues doing this he's increasing his chances of getting a Darwin award. In short: You can't go round acting like a juvenile when you're a fully grown man. It's established that if you try to run from cops in the USA you WILL be shot and likely killed. Next step: If you film a cop because you think he's acting like a criminal, or for whatever reason, you are likely to be shot and killed. Next step: If you make eye contact with a cop, for whatever reason, you may be shot and killed. Next step: If a cop sees you and decides he doesn't like what you are wearing, you are likely to be shot and killed It will go on and on and on This is where it is going all right. Too bad many people are incapable of recognizing it. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 08/06/2015 04:14 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66123164 Bulgaria 08/06/2015 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i know my opinion doesn't mater but i will say it anyway , the cop wast a steroid looking angry guy , he even said if u want you can go home, he just wanted him to remove his hand from his pockets . The guy with the camera was acting suspicious, how can we know he wasn't scouting the neighborhood to rob the houses ? filming the times that the cops patrol the area? show respect and you get respect back thats my philosophy |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 08/06/2015 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i know my opinion doesn't mater but i will say it anyway , the cop wast a steroid looking angry guy , he even said if u want you can go home, he just wanted him to remove his hand from his pockets . The guy with the camera was acting suspicious, how can we know he wasn't scouting the neighborhood to rob the houses ? filming the times that the cops patrol the area? show respect and you get respect back thats my philosophy Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66123164 1. apparently the guy had one hand in a pocket while filming. I guess the costumed person was in fear for his life. 2. Why would someone bent on robbery/burglary be filming the police? 3. The man had some kind of trouble with the local police before. Which raises suspicion that this was some kind of police harassment. 4. Filming the police is a perfectly legitimate method of holding "public servants" accountable. 5. The man was at his own house. How does that translate as acting "suspicious"? Last Edited by s. d. butler on 08/06/2015 07:12 AM |
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411 User ID: 69751474 United States 08/06/2015 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: UPDATE: Now suspended. Harper Kansas Sheriff needs sensitivity training (vid) "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." --William Pitt |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65791003 United States 08/06/2015 06:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People and their cameras think their Cecil fkn B Demille with that thing. Do they not understand the concept of covert filming ? Quoting: dan halen rules Several US federal courts have ruled that videoing the police in the course of their duties is a lawful, constitutionally protected activity. No need for 'covert filming'. |
BRIEF User ID: 39607259 United States 08/06/2015 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one of my sons started doing shit like this I would try and explain to him why that's a really stupid thing to do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69967628 I mean it's weird behaviour to stare someone down with a camera. Like it would have been far more sensible to film covertly if he wanted to expose some shennanigins, not stand there like a lemon, facing someone and pointing a camera at them. Go and try that on the street and you're gonna get fucked up by someone, it's stoopid behaviour. I mean look at the context, if the cameraman had been witness to some bigger event ( a riot maybe ) then sure, it makes sense, but he wasn't... He was just a random loon pointing a camera at a passing cop, and the passing cop thought, WTF? Turns out the passing cop was a softy and thought "yeah just a loon" and he moved on without incident. If that cameraman continues doing this he's increasing his chances of getting a Darwin award. In short: You can't go round acting like a juvenile when you're a fully grown man. ^^^this If you go looking for a fight, you'll find one I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69967628 Spain 08/06/2015 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one of my sons started doing shit like this I would try and explain to him why that's a really stupid thing to do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69967628 I mean it's weird behaviour to stare someone down with a camera. Like it would have been far more sensible to film covertly if he wanted to expose some shennanigins, not stand there like a lemon, facing someone and pointing a camera at them. Go and try that on the street and you're gonna get fucked up by someone, it's stoopid behaviour. I mean look at the context, if the cameraman had been witness to some bigger event ( a riot maybe ) then sure, it makes sense, but he wasn't... He was just a random loon pointing a camera at a passing cop, and the passing cop thought, WTF? Turns out the passing cop was a softy and thought "yeah just a loon" and he moved on without incident. If that cameraman continues doing this he's increasing his chances of getting a Darwin award. In short: You can't go round acting like a juvenile when you're a fully grown man. According to you the guy filming was lucky not to be dead? It's established that if you try to run from cops in the USA you WILL be shot and likely killed. Next step: If you film a cop because you think he's acting like a criminal, or for whatever reason, you are likely to be shot and killed. Next step: If you make eye contact with a cop, for whatever reason, you may be shot and killed. Next step: If a cop sees you and decides he doesn't like what you are wearing, you are likely to be shot and killed It will go on and on and on meh... community relations here between citizens and police are very good. They would worsen if citizens treated every cop with suspicion, and filmed them all the time and said like troubled teenagers "i'm not obliged to tell you" when asked what they're doing. Grow up! It's called a relationship. Any yes, I posit that the cameraman increased his chances of death by his stupid actions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69967628 Spain 08/06/2015 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reading the surrounding context: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69967628 It's pretty clear that the cop thought there was a chance he might be witnessing boat theft. The correct course of action by the boat owner would be to tell the cop that it's his boat and thank him for his vigilance, because you know what... that cop was protecting his property. I can only imagine that the cameraman is on the verge of a mid life crisis or something? How is that fucking clear? The cop didn't even make an inquiry as to the boat ownership you boot licker. The boat and trailer have different tags to the car so the cop could not have known if it were his boat. Seems like a clear case of harassment and it happens. My friend filed a suit against our local cop shop because they were harassing him. Records proved his details were accessed on the system no less than 100 times for no valid reason and by a myriad of cops from that station. cameraman was immature douche. had he been a man it could have all been cleared up without incident. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58787739 United States 08/06/2015 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you stick a camera in a cop's face, believe me, he is itching for a reason to take you to jail. Section 148(a)(1) of the California Penal Code gives him the authority to do so if he believes that you are making his job more difficult or more time-consuming than necessary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69737665 What job was the cop doing? Blatantly parking in front of him for no reason to harass and intimidate? Fuck California, commie shithole tyranny state. |