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There were TWO rebellions of Angels against Yahweh!!!

 
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There were TWO rebellions of Angels against Yahweh!!!
The first was caused by the chief satan and colloquially called "Satan" or lucifer or Helal or Beliar or satanel but specifically named as Sammael or Samael in by Deuterocanonical Book of Baruch.

Sammael was first among creation and given great power, splendor and majesty and duties such as supervising the music in heaven.

He was very proud of his splender.

God later created Adam and asked all the head Angels to bow down and worship Adam. One by one, Micheal, Raphael, Uriel, etc. did, but Samael refused. When pressed by Micheal, Sammael said they he was created first in time and Adam and mankind should bow to him. Micheal warned him that God would be wrought with him and Sammael replied that he would then set his throne above Gods,and rebel.

1/3 of the Angels in heaven were under satan's command and they were each individual asked whose side they would choice. They chose satan's, they lost the war in heaven and were booted down to earth. They are described as dwelling above the abyss by continually flying. They are not the masters of hades. Hades is a living entity and is the master of itself. But they agreed to ensnare human souls through sin and bring them to hades for torture.

The second rebellion is of 200 Grigori Watcher class Angels. The scene for this. Cain went to exhile into the land of nod and started own race. Seth said atop the slopes outside the garden of Eden and started his own holy race.

The descendents of Cain could not climb back up the mountain to get to the sethites because a ring of fire would spring barring the passage upward.

So satan possesed the Cainites women and had them engage in orgies and music playing at the bottom of the slopes to seduce the sethities off the mountain.

When Jared became the ruling patriarch of the Sethites, some of them started to succumb to the Cainite seduction and descend to the mountain to join the orgies. Once they went down they Couldn't come back up.

The creator was grieved by this. The Grigori leaders lobbied God to send a great flood to wipe them out. The Creator refused. The leaders of the Grigori than asked to go to earth to minster to the sethites but also to prove that they were a superior creation. The Creator warned them that they would become more corrupt than mankind of they went to earth. In their pride they didn't believe it.

200 of them went to earth. Satan used the Cainite women to seduce the Grigori into lusting after the women and descending engage in the orgies. Once the Grigori fell they came under satan's power and authority and sought to completely corrupt the human genome if foreign. DNA, preventing Jesus from having a human body that he could use to redeem mankind.


Arch Angel Raphael was sent to punish the Grigori and start the flood.
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Some typos there but you get the gist. Didn't have time to proof read.

But that's based on the book of Baruch, the First to books of Enoch, and the Books of Adam and Eve.
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The God of the Bible seems to specialize in making things that disappoint him, or turn against him.

Why is that, exactly?
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The God of the Bible seems to specialize in making things that disappoint him, or turn against him.

Why is that, exactly?
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You all have a choice.

If you could create something would you rather have it love you because you created it to have not free will and no choice or because you gave it freewill and it chose to?
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The God of the Bible seems to specialize in making things that disappoint him, or turn against him.

Why is that, exactly?
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You'd probably get a decent answer if you ask your parents.
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On the fall of the second group of Angels:






[link to earth-history.com]



100. Concerning the Angels who rebelled

And there were certain angels with whom God was wroth—now He, the Knower of the heart knew them—and they reviled ADAM, saying, "Since God hath shown love to him He hath set us to minister unto him, and the beasts and creeping things, and the fish of the sea, and the birds of the air, and all fruits, and the trees of the field, and the heavens and the earth also; and He hath appointed the heavens to give him rain, and the earth to give him fruits. And the sun and the moon also hath He given him, the sun to give him light by day and the moon to give him light in the night season. He hath fashioned him with His fingers, and He hath created him in His own image, and He hath kissed him and breathed upon him the spirit of life; and He saith unto him, 'My son, My firstborn, My beloved.' And He hath set him in a garden to eat and enjoy himself without sickness or suffering, and without toil or labour, but He hath commanded him not to eat from one tree. And being given all these things by God, ADAM hath transgressed and eaten of that tree, and he hath become hated and rejected, and God hath driven him out of the Garden, and from that time ADAM hath abandoned his hope, for he hath transgressed the commandment of his Creator."

And God answered the angels who reviled ADAM in this wise, and He said unto them, "Why do ye revile ADAM in this wise? For he is flesh, and blood, and ashes and dust." And the angels answered and said unto Him, "May we declare before Thee the sin of ADAM?" And God said unto them, "Declare ye (his sin), and I will hearken unto you, and I Myself will answer you in respect of ADAM My servant." For God had worked on behalf of ADAM. And God said, "I created him out of the dust, and I will not cast away that which I have fashioned. I brought him forth out of non-existence, and I will not make My handiwork a laughingstock for his enemies." And those angels said, "Praise be unto Thee, O Lord. For Thou, the Knower of hearts, knowest that we have reviled ADAM because he hath transgressed Thy commandment that he was not to eat of one tree after Thou hadst made him lord over everything which Thou hast created, and hadst set him over every work of Thy hands. And if Thou hadst not told him, and if Thou hadst not commanded him not to eat of one tree there would have been no offence (on his part); and if he had eaten because of a lack of food there would have been no offence (on his part). But Thy word made him to know, and Thou didst say, 'As surely as thou eatest of this tree thou shalt die.' And he, after hearing this, made bold and ate. Thou didst not let him lack sweet fruits to eat from the Garden, and Thou didst not let him lack one to comfort him and a companion like unto himself. And these things we say and make known unto Thee, and we have revealed unto Thee how he hath transgressed Thy commandment."

And the Merciful One and the Lover of mercy answered them on behalf of ADAM, and said unto them, "You have I created out of fire and air with the one intent (that ye should) praise (Me). Him have I created of twice as many elements as you—of dust and water, and of wind and fire; and he became (a being) of flesh and blood. And in him are ten thoughts (or, intentions), five good, and five bad. And if his heart inciteth him to good, he walketh with good intent; and if the Devil seduceth him, he walketh with him on an evil path. As for you, ye have no other object in your minds but praise of Me, with the exception of that arrogant one who produced evil, and became an evil being, and was driven forth from your assembly. And now, why do ye magnify yourselves over ADAM? If ye were as he is, and I had created you of water and dust, ye would have been flesh and blood, and ye would have transgressed My commandment more than he hath done, and denied My word." And the angels said unto Him, "Praise be unto Thee, O Lord! Far be it from us! We will not transgress Thy commandment, and we will not oppose Thy word; for we are spiritual beings for life, and he is a creature of dust (doomed) to folly. And now try us well, and put us to the test so that Thou mayest know whether we are able to keep Thy word."

And when they had vaunted themselves in this manner God, the Lover of men, said unto them, "If now ye go astray so far as this in transgressing My word, the wrong will be upon your own heads, (for) JAHANNAM (or, hell), and fire, and sulphur, and fervent heat, and whirlwind shall be your habitation until the Great Day: ye shall be kept in chains which can neither be loosened nor broken for ever. But if ye keep truly My word, and ye do My commandment, ye shall sit upon My right hand and upon My left. For everyone who hath conquered is mighty, and he who is conquered shall be overpowered. Now SATAN hath no power whatsoever, for he hath only what he maketh to germinate in the mind; and he cannot grasp firmly, and he cannot perform anything, and he cannot beat, and he cannot drag, and he cannot seize, and he cannot fight; he can only make thoughts to germinate silently in the mind. And him who is caught by the evil mind he prepareth for destruction; and if (a man) hath conquered the evil mind he findeth grace and hath a reward which is everlasting. And to you, according to what ye wish, there shall be upon you the mind of a man and the body of a man. But take good heed to yourselves that ye transgress not My word and break not My commandment; and defile not ye yourselves with eating, or drinking, or fornication, or with any other thing whatsoever; and transgress ye not My word."

And straightway there were given unto them with His word flesh, and blood, and a heart of the children of men. And they were content to leave the height of heaven, and they came down to earth, to the folly of the dancing of the children of CAIN with all their work of the artisan, which they had made in the folly of their fornication, and to their singings, which they accompanied with the tambourine, and the flutes, and the pipes, and much shouting, and loud cries of joy and noisy songs. And their daughters were there, and they enjoyed the orgies without shame, for they scented themselves for the men who pleased them, and they lost the balance in their minds. And the men did not restrain themselves for a moment, but they took to wife from among the women those whom they had chosen, and committed sin with them. For God hath no resting-place in the hearts of the arrogant and those who revile, but He abideth in the hearts of the humble and those who are sincere. And He spake in the Gospel, saying, "Woe be unto those who make themselves righteous, and despise their neighbours." And again He saith, "God loveth the humble, and He holdeth lightly those who magnify themselves."

And straightway God was wroth with them, and He bound them in the terror of SHEÔL until the day of redemption, as the Apostle saith, "He treated His angels with severity. He spared them not, but made them to dwell in a state of judgement, and they were fettered until the Great Day." The word of God conquered, Who had fashioned ADAM in His likeness (or, form), and those who had reviled and made a laughingstock of ADAM were conquered. And the daughters of CAIN with whom the angels had companied conceived, but they were unable to bring forth their children, and they died. And of the children who were in their wombs some died, and some came forth; having split open the bellies of their mothers they came forth by their navels. And when they were grown up and reached man's estate they became giants, whose height reached unto the clouds; and for their sakes and the sakes of sinners the wrath of God became quiet, and He said, "My spirit shall only rest on them for one hundred and twenty years, and I will destroy them with the waters of the Flood," them and all sinners who have not believed the word of God. And to those who believed the word of their fathers, and did His Will, no injury came from the waters of the Flood, but He delivered them, saying, "If thou believest My word thou canst save thyself from the Flood." And NOAH said, "O Lord, I believe Thy word, make me to know by what means I can be saved." And God said unto him, "Thou canst be saved from the water by wood." And NOAH said, "How, O Lord?" And God said unto him, "Make thyself a four-sided ark, and build it with the work of the carpenter, and make for it three storeys inside, and go into it with all thy house." And NOAH believed the word of God, and made (the ark), and was saved.

Now hearken ye unto me, and I will explain to you concerning this thing. When God gave the command He could have given unto NOAH a wing like the eagle and transported him to the country of the living, with all his house, until His anger with the sinners who had not believed the word of God and the word of their fathers, had abated, or He could have lifted him up into the air, or He could have commanded the water of the Flood—(which was) like a wall—not to approach the one mountain where He would make NOAH to dwell with his sons and not to submerge the beasts and cattle which he wanted. But know ye this—God was well pleased that by means of wood which had been sanctified the salvation of His creation should take place, that is to say, the ark and the wood of the Cross. God said unto NOAH, "Make that whereby thou shalt be saved," that is to say, the Tabernacle of the Church; and when He said unto him, "Make it foursided," He showed that the Sign of the Cross was fourfold. Now the four corners of the ark are the horns of the altar; and He commanded MOSES to make the ark out of indestructible wood. He said, "I will sanctify thee by that heavenly and spiritual work of My hand. And do thou sanctify thyself from filth, and impurity, and fornication, and vindictiveness, and falsehood, together with thy brother and thy house. And sacrifice unto Me a clean sacrifice with cleanness, and I will accept thee after thou hast sanctified thyself and thy house; command all the people to sanctify themselves, for My holy things (must be offered) by holy ones. And this thou shalt seek, the Tabernacle of My Covenant which I have created for My praise. And if ye come with purity of heart, with love, and with peace, without mockery and reviling, and if ye will make right your hearts in respect of Me and your neighbours, I will hear your prayers, and I will listen to your petitions about everything which ye submit to Me, and I will come and be with you, and I will walk among you, and I will dwell in your hearts, and ye shall be unto Me My people, and I will be your God in truth."
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Re: There were TWO rebellions of Angels against Yahweh!!!
The God of the Bible seems to specialize in making things that disappoint him, or turn against him.

Why is that, exactly?
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Because he is a Parent. We are made from his likeness, and have a mind after his own. In many respects, he, the Heavenly Father, went through everything all parents go through, and then some.
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You know how God thinks? Wow..
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Idiotic nonsense.
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Thanks OP
"We are locked in a battle. This is not a friendly, gentleman's discussion. It is a life and death conflict between the spiritual hosts of wickedness and those who claim the name of Jesus Christ."

"The Saints are Sinners that keep on trying"
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The Book of Baruch(562BC) refers to a man by the name of Baruch who was an assistant to the high priest Jeremiah.

360 years after King Solomon-Sheshonq(922 BC) (source:Ralph Ellis Solomon, Pharaoh of Egypt)

Sam-
el - Severity of God, Enforcer of God, The Angel of Death, Samuel

Bel - means Husband, Lord, God, Son of God

Hel - is the daughter of Loki and the ruler of Helheim

Lucifer, Luc, Luke means light.

Adam - Aten, first man, ruler, see also Eden. This is the title of the Hyksos Kings of Lower Egypt and Babylon.

Micha-
el - Angel of the Heroes of God.

Rapha-
el - Angel of the Healers of God.

Gabri-
el - Angel of the Governors of God.

Uri-
el - Angel of the Farmers of God.

Cain - Hyksos Pharaoh Kyan(1610?–1580BC)(source:Ralph Ellis)

Seth - Hyksos Pharaohs Seti I and II(1290–1279 BC)
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God is a hell of a failure...

He got F at creation and shit
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Some typos there but you get the gist. Didn't have time to proof read.

But that's based on the book of Baruch, the First to books of Enoch, and the Books of Adam and Eve.
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You are pretty much correct, but Jesus is not the name of the one who died on the cross. It is Yahuwshua.
Ya-hweh (He who causes to be/exist)
Yahuwshua (Ya-hweh is deliverence/wealth)
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Some typos there but you get the gist. Didn't have time to proof read.

But that's based on the book of Baruch, the First to books of Enoch, and the Books of Adam and Eve.
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You are pretty much correct, but Jesus is not the name of the one who died on the cross. It is Yahuwshua.
Ya-hweh (He who causes to be/exist)
Yahuwshua (Ya-hweh is deliverence/wealth)
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its not yahweh, it's YAHUWAH.
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God is a hell of a failure...

He got F at creation and shit
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where is your creation or a comparable creation?
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Some typos there but you get the gist. Didn't have time to proof read.

But that's based on the book of Baruch, the First to books of Enoch, and the Books of Adam and Eve.
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You are pretty much correct, but Jesus is not the name of the one who died on the cross. It is Yahuwshua.
Ya-hweh (He who causes to be/exist)
Yahuwshua (Ya-hweh is deliverence/wealth)
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its not yahweh, it's YAHUWAH.
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Care to give me the hebrew meaning of yahuwah, then?
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Some typos there but you get the gist. Didn't have time to proof read.

But that's based on the book of Baruch, the First to books of Enoch, and the Books of Adam and Eve.
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You are pretty much correct, but Jesus is not the name of the one who died on the cross. It is Yahuwshua.
Ya-hweh (He who causes to be/exist)
Yahuwshua (Ya-hweh is deliverence/wealth)
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its not yahweh, it's YAHUWAH.
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Care to give me the hebrew meaning of yahuwah, then?
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take your definition and replace the name YAHUWAH with it.

YAHUWAH
YAHUSHUWAH
YAHUSHALOM
YERIMIYAHU
YESHAYAHU
YAHUZADAK
YAHUDAH

YAHU IS THE ROOT OF THE CREATOR, OUR SAVIOUR, HIS CITY, HIS PROPHETS, AND HIS TRIBE OF KINGS

Yahoo is a derigatory term that mystery babylon made up to call the tribes of YSRAL, who call unto YAHUWAH.

Between each Hebrew letter there is a pronounciation or syllable, which is why calling YHWH, yahweh is incorrect.
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Clearing up confusion

Cananite is not the defendant of Cain

Kenite is

Not to fault you OP as the truth is rather obscured for a reason
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Idiotic nonsense.
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^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^
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Idiotic nonsense.
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^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^
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not this^^^^^
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The first was caused by the chief satan and colloquially called "Satan" or lucifer or Helal or Beliar or satanel but specifically named as Sammael or Samael in by Deuterocanonical Book of Baruch.

Sammael was first among creation and given great power, splendor and majesty and duties such as supervising the music in heaven.

He was very proud of his splender.

God later created Adam and asked all the head Angels to bow down and worship Adam. One by one, Micheal, Raphael, Uriel, etc. did, but Samael refused. When pressed by Micheal, Sammael said they he was created first in time and Adam and mankind should bow to him. Micheal warned him that God would be wrought with him and Sammael replied that he would then set his throne above Gods,and rebel.

1/3 of the Angels in heaven were under satan's command and they were each individual asked whose side they would choice. They chose satan's, they lost the war in heaven and were booted down to earth. They are described as dwelling above the abyss by continually flying. They are not the masters of hades. Hades is a living entity and is the master of itself. But they agreed to ensnare human souls through sin and bring them to hades for torture.

The second rebellion is of 200 Grigori Watcher class Angels. The scene for this. Cain went to exhile into the land of nod and started own race. Seth said atop the slopes outside the garden of Eden and started his own holy race.

The descendents of Cain could not climb back up the mountain to get to the sethites because a ring of fire would spring barring the passage upward.

So satan possesed the Cainites women and had them engage in orgies and music playing at the bottom of the slopes to seduce the sethities off the mountain.

When Jared became the ruling patriarch of the Sethites, some of them started to succumb to the Cainite seduction and descend to the mountain to join the orgies. Once they went down they Couldn't come back up.

The creator was grieved by this. The Grigori leaders lobbied God to send a great flood to wipe them out. The Creator refused. The leaders of the Grigori than asked to go to earth to minster to the sethites but also to prove that they were a superior creation. The Creator warned them that they would become more corrupt than mankind of they went to earth. In their pride they didn't believe it.

200 of them went to earth. Satan used the Cainite women to seduce the Grigori into lusting after the women and descending engage in the orgies. Once the Grigori fell they came under satan's power and authority and sought to completely corrupt the human genome if foreign. DNA, preventing Jesus from having a human body that he could use to redeem mankind.


Arch Angel Raphael was sent to punish the Grigori and start the flood.
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Yahweh is a GOD of Jews.

So why not post this in Israel?

This is US forum.
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The first was caused by the chief satan and colloquially called "Satan" or lucifer or Helal or Beliar or satanel but specifically named as Sammael or Samael in by Deuterocanonical Book of Baruch.

Sammael was first among creation and given great power, splendor and majesty and duties such as supervising the music in heaven.

He was very proud of his splender.

God later created Adam and asked all the head Angels to bow down and worship Adam. One by one, Micheal, Raphael, Uriel, etc. did, but Samael refused. When pressed by Micheal, Sammael said they he was created first in time and Adam and mankind should bow to him. Micheal warned him that God would be wrought with him and Sammael replied that he would then set his throne above Gods,and rebel.

1/3 of the Angels in heaven were under satan's command and they were each individual asked whose side they would choice. They chose satan's, they lost the war in heaven and were booted down to earth. They are described as dwelling above the abyss by continually flying. They are not the masters of hades. Hades is a living entity and is the master of itself. But they agreed to ensnare human souls through sin and bring them to hades for torture.

The second rebellion is of 200 Grigori Watcher class Angels. The scene for this. Cain went to exhile into the land of nod and started own race. Seth said atop the slopes outside the garden of Eden and started his own holy race.

The descendents of Cain could not climb back up the mountain to get to the sethites because a ring of fire would spring barring the passage upward.

So satan possesed the Cainites women and had them engage in orgies and music playing at the bottom of the slopes to seduce the sethities off the mountain.

When Jared became the ruling patriarch of the Sethites, some of them started to succumb to the Cainite seduction and descend to the mountain to join the orgies. Once they went down they Couldn't come back up.

The creator was grieved by this. The Grigori leaders lobbied God to send a great flood to wipe them out. The Creator refused. The leaders of the Grigori than asked to go to earth to minster to the sethites but also to prove that they were a superior creation. The Creator warned them that they would become more corrupt than mankind of they went to earth. In their pride they didn't believe it.

200 of them went to earth. Satan used the Cainite women to seduce the Grigori into lusting after the women and descending engage in the orgies. Once the Grigori fell they came under satan's power and authority and sought to completely corrupt the human genome if foreign. DNA, preventing Jesus from having a human body that he could use to redeem mankind.


Arch Angel Raphael was sent to punish the Grigori and start the flood.
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Yahweh is a GOD of Jews.

So why not post this in Israel?

This is US forum.
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Ya-hweh is the Mighty Ones of all of creation. And his wrath is set against the USA.
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Angels work for God - undeniable and simple - to be seen is to be known.





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