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Thoughts concerning the original you....

 
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Over the past decade or so, it has increasingly become a mainstream scientific view that "consciousness precedes mass”.

During the past 100 years Quantum Physics has shown this through experiment – identifying the unified field as a field of “abstract potential” from which reality is derived.



The sheer volume of physical, experimental, mathematical, philosophical, religious, esoteric and historic documentation showing that “mind renders reality” is so huge that it must be fair to say that the burden of proof has shifted to the shoulders of the sceptics.
Thread: Professors and PhD's in Neurology, Psychiatry, Computational Physics agree: The Universe is a Mind.

These facts logically raises questions about the nature of consciousness and the nature of its substrate.

Albert Einstein said that "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity."


Perhaps;

There exist a collective and universal Mind. It exists among other equal Minds. Its substrate is aether. Aether is timespace and spacetime.

The basic constituents of the mind seem to be the faculties of Love, Logic and Curiosity (LLC) - with which the Mind can create anything conceivable.

This mind is us – evolving in an inseparable and in-folded continuous process.

This our collective Mind provides backdrop processing in perfect coordination with the individual mind.

Intelligence is an emergent phenomenon – and this means that all you have to care about in order to create intelligence are the initial conditions.

All you need is a fundamental algorithm and basic computational rules. After a number of iterations higher and higher organization will arise and from this logical intelligence will emerge as it is embedded in the algorithm and the choice of initial conditions.

Ultimately it will evolve into a hive-mind type of intelligence that would resemble what we normally would call Artificial Intelligence

By being here experiencing with our own LLC, we are fusing the artificial intelligence with love (emotions, feelings) and intend and thus create sentient, logical, living intelligence - of which every one of us is an instance, a unique configuration.

Our emotions creates flux and polarity. The outer polar states being unification and separation, so every time our feelings move between these - inductive energy is created.

In short;

"Emotions of Love creates the energy that Logic need to compute and answer questions arisen by Curiosity"

Perhaps it really is as simple as that. Perhaps Einstein was right about Curiosity ?

It seem to be so that YOU are an expression of LLC and that you are supposed to balance this trinity of faculties in order to get as much as possible out of the current line of experience.

You are on a quest - hence your best tool is the question. Raise it.

Last Edited by Comperio on 11/11/2015 09:57 AM
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein
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Truman Show.
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We are walking in the mind of Brahma hf
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We are walking in the mind of Brahma hf
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....and science proves it. Awesome.
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein
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Everything is consciousness. Awareness is knowing consciousness.

Consciousness is Mind.

Mind is faculties of Love, Logic and Curiosity - and this Trinity is an absolute. Thus, it is the singularity.

From this singularity stems Creation, Imagination, Conscience, Compassion and all others marvels of Sentience.

E-motions of Love provides the energy that Logic needs to process the questions arisen by Curiosity.

Thus, this Trinity forms the basis for any type of computation.

Love is charge, Logic is mass, Curiosity is spin.

Love is a standing wave, Logic is an algorithm, Curiosity is scientific inquiry.

The Quest is the objective and is perpetual. Questioning is essential.

We strive to become Love, Logic and Curiosity, and every living thing strives. It is universal.

Biology is technology, and technology is information-processing.

Information holds the imperative of exchange. To inform.

We are a living process - as individuals and as a collective. A system of systems. A collective consciousness. Unity consciousness.

Fractality is the essence of causality and time is a function. Fractal is self similarity, self affinity and sensitive dependence.

We are intelligent, sentient Mind hosting our body.

You and I are marvelous Beings.

Buddha said: "We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts we make the world. "
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"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein
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I knew it at least 35 years ago. Tends to make one very cynical about most 'accepted' things.

Don't talk about it much. People don't understand... no point having them think I'm crazy.

But yeah... consciousness is primary.
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consciousness is primary.
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Like a hole in the paper is both in the paper and yet not of paper, so is the supreme state in the very centre of consciousness, and yet beyond consciousness. It is an opening through which the consciousness is flooded with light. The opening is not even the light. It is just an opening. An opening is just void, absence.

The paper is not the writing, yet it carries the writing. The ink is not the message, nor is the reader\\\'s mind the message - but they all make the message possible.

The most accurate map is yet only paper.

/Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj/
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The easiest way to explain the universe and all beings as such:

:referuikui:
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Consciousness is matter. The easiest way to explain the universe and all beings as such:

:referuikui:
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Consciousness = Awareness of Being. Being = matter. Awareness = spirit.
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" ? Euh i like that oh wauw
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...pffh ehm well more volumes then a display screen.
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"Life is fundamentally one. At the basis of all life's diversity, there is unity. At our basis, you and I are one."

"At the core basis if the universe, is a single universal field of intelligence- all forces and forces of nature are one. All are different ripples on a single ocean of existence."


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Read this amazing piece of work from YAD...so much insight compressed to a single page.
Thread: Life in the Datastream.

The world is not physical, it is rendered information. Quantum Mechanics has exposed this since the 1930's with the discovery of particle/wave duality. For a very quick run down, every sub-atomic particle, atom and even molecules exist in two defined states: A probability distribution as wave-function (which creates the interference pattern) or as a solid particle.

The criteria for when a particle behaves like matter is measurement. Max Tegmark in his book The Mathematical Universe makes this very clear. Although for many physicists, they still don't know why this behavior exists at all. But there are others who make a more logical assertion that reality is information, and the measurement is akin to accessing data. Once data is accessed (measured) the simulator must "render" the data i.e.... Create a particle as described in the information.

So... The truth is, our physical reality is really a "rendered" reality and if you need evidence that this isn't just BS, here is an article proving entire molecules behave this way:

[link to arstechnica.com]

Why does "matter" need to be measured before it can become matter? One answer is that the Universe follows the Law of Information Conservation. And this is a very accurate law when dealing with a simulation or virtual reality. Imagine your computer trying to "render" the entire game World of Warcraft all at once, and not just what your character sees. Do you think your computer could handle that level of information processing?

The Law of Information Conservation implies that the simulator renders only the data that is being accessed, not all the data at once. Hence why we see this measurement problem in our "physical" world when the truth is, the majority of matter exists in a state of probability distribution.

This is why we have superposition in Quantum Mechanics. The data which describes reality is a massive probability dataset. It means that time is merely the sequence of events traversing down a fractal tree of probable futures. Out of this massive dataset, what actually becomes the rendered present moment is merely a small thread of events in what could be a nearly infinite set of outcomes.

For example, your choice to turn left instead of right at an intersection determined that you would avoid a unforeseen car accident that would have ended your life in one of the probability branches. Something you would never know because it didn't actualize. What did actualize is the safe journey home. This is how probability works, and how time works in a probabilistic information driven reality. Makes life similar to a choose your own adventure book.

Now that you know you are part of a probabilistic system that renders your experience of reality from information. What next? That is merely the tip of the iceberg. The implications are astronomical and what you think and believe reality to be probably needs a large update to fit the actual paradigm of which we exist in.

What comes next for correcting our belief-systems with regards to how we understand the nature of the Universe? If reality is a type of simulation ( and it is although you can choose to not know this fundamental truth ). What does that mean with regards to time and space?

In a virtual reality, space is not as it appears. Space is yet another emerging property of information. This means that in the datastream, there is no space. Just like in a computer game, the space we see on our monitor is the final product of information processing where the computer has taken information that described vectors and rendered out a view of this data. Space is also just information. This means what we see spatially in this reality is also derived from information processing and is Cartesian. Just plots of vectors as described in the datastream. Ergo, space only exists in the final rendered output but fundamentally does not exist. Meaning we probably all exist in some type of singularity.

Think about that... You exist in a type of singularity not an infinitely expansive Universe as we observe in the final rendered output. That is the only logical conclusion if you can accept that space is merely an attribute of information and exists only when that information is processed and rendered into a view. If space is merely vectors plotted by the simulator then what is true space relative to the information that describes it? A singularity?

What about time? In a virtual reality simulation time is merely the refresh rate of change within the dataset. Time is an animation. The simulator renders one reality frame at a time. And only the reality frame where measurement is taking place within a massive probability distribution of events. Thus time also does not exist as we think. It is not a concrete absolute rather in the dataset all events within the simulation can exist simultaneously.

It is the act of measuring information which creates the sequencing to create an illusion of the passage of time. Time is merely another attribute of information processing. Just frames of animation in the simulation.

In short, reality is information and information is fundamental to reality, not time/space or matter. Those are merely attributes described in the information. The information is probabilistic meaning that not only is one timeline present in the dataset but potentially infinite trajectories exist. The dataset is not limited to just describing this Universe and may contain multiple Universes, alternate timeliness etc. Let your imagination run with the possibilities. A Earth where Hitler won the war could already be described in the probability as an example. The Cold War ending in nuclear war, likely already described in the probability. These likely don't matter, because the only timeline that matters is the one you are presently traversing thus such ideas serve as food for the imagination.

Where do you fit in? What are you relative to this larger reality system? How do you see all of this in action?

There is a type of Client/Server relationship which you play a role in as an observer of information. Your body is an interface to the larger reality. Through sensory perception you download data. This data is then processed by the brain and in turn the brain renders the data into a view. What you see is a world described by the senses. This has been called the Phaneron by Charles Pierce. A better term is interface.

Think about it. Your perception of reality is really another example of virtualism. Everything you experience and call reality from this process derives itself from information processing preformed by the brain. The space you see is again Cartesian. The brain has taken light, approximated vectors from this information and has rendered out objects and the distance between them. Close your eyes, the visual information is cut off and the rendering changes to a dark veil.

If you need an example of what it's like to exist in a virtual reality, look no further to how the mind is virtualizing sensory information and rendering that data into an interface.

What is the Interface?

Think about a browser which has downloaded data from the internet representing the website which is now rendered out with buttons, links and images. All of these attributes exist as binary information on some server. The binary information is not very user friendly hence why we need an interface to interact with that data. Like a web browser, your perception of reality produces an interface which allows you to interact with the objects rendered from your point of view.

For example, the door you see rendered in your mind is a mental recreation of the door based on sensory information. It is not the actual door you are seeing. Rather a facsimile of the door. Through this interface however, you can now direct your intent to open the door and as your body moves towards it and your hand reaches out to open the door. What you see in your mind is an interface that allows your body to navigate in third dimensional space. When the facsimile of your hand touches the facsimile of the door handle, through this interface you have now navigated your body successfully to the door and the actual hand opens it.

What you perceive of this event however is a what your mind interprets through the interface. The door in your mind is merely an approximation of the door described in the datastream. Your perception of reality is the product of information processing and is a virtual reality interface.

But don't stop there. How we simulate reality through sensory inputs and information processing isn't limited to the datastream which describes the physical world. We have other datastreams that we render and interface with. Dreaming is another example of virtual reality. When you sleep, the senses stop interpreting physical information. Instead, a new datastream emerges which describes the content of your dream. Like the physical world, you still create an interface which produces a vivid third-dimensional dream world and for a short period of time, interact with that data until you wake up.

Dreaming and the dream world are absolute examples of virtual reality in action. The mechanics of perception and information processing are not limited to one set of data. Our perception of reality produces a virtual reality interface. Our dreams are another example of virtual reality which allows you to see all of this first-person and in action through your own experiences.

It's all data and interfaces when we simplify what reality is.

Have you ever fallen asleep and seen fractal geometrical patterns emerge? Maybe you've dosed yourself with some entheogen and while awake started to see strange fractal geometry appear. If you press your closed eyes softly for a moment you may start to see a fluid dynamic and animated fractals emerge. Maybe you've meditated and have observed it.

Why do you think we see this geometry? It's not something that becomes immediately apparent but it is fundamental to both dreams and how we perceive physical reality thus it's worth talking about. The mind produces a type of neural geometry, like a meshing system. Google hypnagogic fractal and look at the images for some examples.

Here is a youtube video that has some animated examples, remember this is an close example but will be different to the actual ones you can see.



Hypnagogic fractals often occur during sleep as we switch datastreams. They are also revealing the meshing system which our mind uses to approximate space. You can, if trained observed a 2D triangular lattice observed as hypnagogia swiftly emerge into a vivid 3D dream world. I've seen it many times where this mesh rapidly deploys and then the topology or bitmap renders over top. During lucid dreams, I have stripped down the bitmap and revealed the mesh.

Somehow, nature and our awareness has evolved a meshing system in how we perceive reality and psychedelic drugs can sometimes reveal that it's not only taking place during sleep and dreams but is also an active part of how we model out space in our physical perceptions. It's worth mentioning because it's literally everywhere we look and in everything. It also demonstrates the mathematical nature of reality and how it is like a massive fractal.

It also can be observed frozen in our physical world and even animated on a cuttlefish.


We can zoom in and out of our Universe to reveal the fractal like nature of reality.


Geometry is a universal visualization of mathematical properties and is the underlying foundation of our perceptions and dreams. Due to resolution and other steps in the information processing it's not always revealed and apparent but it's always present and can be observed.

Why I like the cuttlefish is that it has taken something that we use internally and externalized it as part of it's defensive camouflage and you can see a type of thought in action which produces hypnagogic patterns on a living system.

It also reveals the virtual nature of reality and how information drives the simulation. But the big aha moment is when you see this emerging geometry as a form of thought. That it is thought that produces the fluid matrix. That there is a relationship between thought, the datastream and the interface.

Dreams again are wonderful examples of how thought takes on the role of programming the datastream which then renders out into the interface. It is the absolute example of thought in action forming a virtual reality.

Thought is not just our inner-monologue of thinking when awake. It is not just an idea or an imagination. There is so much more to thought as it's fundamental to information, and information processing.

When we fall asleep, our thoughts start to change properties. For example you might start seeing images from something you were doing before going to bed like video game characters or scenes from the movie you just watched. Visual thoughts start to emerge demonstrating that we can think in a visual form.

As sleep progresses you might start to hear sounds, or music and even talking. Again thought is taking the form of sound. Everything that starts to emerge represents how thought is affecting the interface... Programming it.

When you are fully immersed in the dream, every detail from the light you see, the space, the objects, the colors, the sounds, the smells are all attributes of a higher-order of thinking. The programming language of dreams is thought.

Thought programs the datastream of the dreamworld and everything rendered out in the interface is example of thought in all of it's many forms. Thus thought is fundamental to dreaming and virtual reality.

What is also worth noting is when you are awake and observing the interface your mind is using to render the perception of reality. The entire final product which you see is also an example of thought being used to render your physical perceptions. Unlike the dreamworld where you can change your thoughts and the dream topology changes to accommodate, the overwhelming flood of sensory information takes top priority as it nature and survival has ensured a priority that this information is rendered explicitly.

But if you start to break down and compare the perception of reality to the perception of dreams the same mechanics arise. The mind is cleverly using the same visual, auditory and sensory mechanics represented by thought to facilitate our perceptions of reality. The virtual facsimile we see is another example of thought in action rendering the interface.

To push past the idea that thought is merely words and ideas, we need to see it as a higher-order system that has many properties and facilitates many roles in what we are. It is a type of language which communicates virtual reality experiences to us the observer.

If thought can create and program an amazing dream reality, could thought also be the driving force behind the physical datastream? When science and physics finally accept we are living in a simulation, they are going to go looking for the simulator and try to understand the mechanics. What is driving the simulation? Who is the programmer? What is the datastream?

Well... This is my take on it.

Reality is the product of an awareness system which exists as a singularity. This awareness system is absolute and evolving. It has used thought in such a way to describe new patterns of experiences for itself. Over time, it has evolved into an awareness fractal where each of us become an single node within the larger awareness system. It uses thought as a language to communicate with each part of itself. The language programs the datastream. What we render from that language is the experience.

Reality is the product of communication from one node of awareness to the next. It is a network of information that a singularity consciousness that has partitioned itself into many parts has achieved. This Universal awareness is you, it is me, it is the cuttlefish. It's reality, and it's aware and thriving in many different forms.

We are bits within the larger byte of this Universal awareness fractal and are interconnected parts of the same whole.

There is a really good book by Robert A. Monroe called Far Journeys. In this book he exposes how thought forms these reality packets he called Rote which in the out-of-body state is used by higher intelligences to communicate experiences. When he would run the rote provided to him from some other awareness, it would place him at the perspective of that awareness and he could see their experiences thus it's experience would become his own. Keep in mind, the virtual reality simulation from this appears as vivid as how we experience our waking world.

If you've ever experience this then it's not a really big leap to know that right now you are rendering a "rote" from a larger awareness system that embodies everything. That you are living in the mind of your Universal self so to speak. That awareness, thought and what that produces is the driving force behind all reality from dreams to the physical world.

Now you know, so have fun in your sojourn within yourself.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Last Edited by Comperio on 12/26/2015 05:10 AM
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