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If Jesus is God how could he die for our Sins?

 
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Fractal

Think about it.
 Quoting: Michael.


A Hint from scripture:

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
 Quoting: Michael.


Yes, the Son of Man said that.

You and the swede and priest must all be best buds
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No I don't know them, perhaps we just are not blinded by the delusion. Perhaps both sides are wrong, yet both are right also.

Perhaps the explanation is something no one is considering....


fractal 2
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:Fractal:

Think about it.
 Quoting: Michael.


A Hint from scripture:

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
 Quoting: Michael.


Yes, the Son of Man said that.

You and the swede and priest must all be best buds
 Quoting: FairportNY


No I don't know them, perhaps we just are not blinded by the delusion. Perhaps both sides are wrong, yet both are right also.

Perhaps the explanation is something no one is considering....


:fractal 2:
 Quoting: Michael.


Right, nobody considered that Jesus was not God

Are you serious bro
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A Hint from scripture:

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
 Quoting: Michael.


Yes, the Son of Man said that.

You and the swede and priest must all be best buds
 Quoting: FairportNY


No I don't know them, perhaps we just are not blinded by the delusion. Perhaps both sides are wrong, yet both are right also.

Perhaps the explanation is something no one is considering....


fractal 2
 Quoting: Michael.


Right, nobody considered that Jesus was not God

Are you serious bro
 Quoting: FairportNY


The First Born Yahushua being a fractal spirit of YHWH would explain a whole lot in scripture would it not?

A fractal spirit (Yahushua) placed into Human Flesh The 1st born Son of YHWH.

Ponder upon the possibility.
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Yes, the Son of Man said that.

You and the swede and priest must all be best buds
 Quoting: FairportNY


No I don't know them, perhaps we just are not blinded by the delusion. Perhaps both sides are wrong, yet both are right also.

Perhaps the explanation is something no one is considering....


:fractal 2:
 Quoting: Michael.


Right, nobody considered that Jesus was not God

Are you serious bro
 Quoting: FairportNY


The First Born Yahushua being a fractal spirit of YHWH would explain a whole lot in scripture would it not?

A fractal spirit (Yahushua) placed into Human Flesh The 1st born Son of YHWH.

Ponder upon the possibility.
 Quoting: Michael.


Fractal spirit?

Dude, what year was that term even invented
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No I don't know them, perhaps we just are not blinded by the delusion. Perhaps both sides are wrong, yet both are right also.

Perhaps the explanation is something no one is considering....


fractal 2
 Quoting: Michael.


Right, nobody considered that Jesus was not God

Are you serious bro
 Quoting: FairportNY


The First Born Yahushua being a fractal spirit of YHWH would explain a whole lot in scripture would it not?

A fractal spirit (Yahushua) placed into Human Flesh The 1st born Son of YHWH.

Ponder upon the possibility.
 Quoting: Michael.


Fractal spirit?

Dude, what year was that term even invented
 Quoting: FairportNY


YHWH's creation? how does one replicate when there is only one? Thus before time itself would be the answer.

Do you have any understanding of Fractals?
Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.
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Right, nobody considered that Jesus was not God

Are you serious bro
 Quoting: FairportNY


The First Born Yahushua being a fractal spirit of YHWH would explain a whole lot in scripture would it not?

A fractal spirit (Yahushua) placed into Human Flesh The 1st born Son of YHWH.

Ponder upon the possibility.
 Quoting: Michael.


Fractal spirit?

Dude, what year was that term even invented
 Quoting: FairportNY


YHWH's creation? how does one replicate when there is only one? Thus before time itself would be the answer.

Do you have any understanding of Fractals?
 Quoting: Michael.


Answer my question please. When was the term 'fractal' invented???
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The First Born Yahushua being a fractal spirit of YHWH would explain a whole lot in scripture would it not?

A fractal spirit (Yahushua) placed into Human Flesh The 1st born Son of YHWH.

Ponder upon the possibility.
 Quoting: Michael.


Fractal spirit?

Dude, what year was that term even invented
 Quoting: FairportNY


YHWH's creation? how does one replicate when there is only one? Thus before time itself would be the answer.

Do you have any understanding of Fractals?
 Quoting: Michael.


Answer my question please. When was the term 'fractal' invented???
 Quoting: FairportNY


The mathematical Idea goes back to the 17th century but the term fractal as a description to it was given in 1975.
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Fractal spirit?

Dude, what year was that term even invented
 Quoting: FairportNY


YHWH's creation? how does one replicate when there is only one? Thus before time itself would be the answer.

Do you have any understanding of Fractals?
 Quoting: Michael.


Answer my question please. When was the term 'fractal' invented???
 Quoting: FairportNY


The mathematical Idea goes back to the 17th century but the term fractal as a description to it was given in 1975.
 Quoting: Michael.


1975

Okay, and what is your main problem with Jesus?

Is he too ancient?
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YHWH's creation? how does one replicate when there is only one? Thus before time itself would be the answer.

Do you have any understanding of Fractals?
 Quoting: Michael.


Answer my question please. When was the term 'fractal' invented???
 Quoting: FairportNY


The mathematical Idea goes back to the 17th century but the term fractal as a description to it was given in 1975.
 Quoting: Michael.


1975

Okay, and what is your main problem with Jesus?

Is he too ancient?
 Quoting: FairportNY


No problem at all I even met him that same year, His Hebrew name is Yahushua BTW. And yes I do accept Yahushua as my Messiah.
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Answer my question please. When was the term 'fractal' invented???
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The mathematical Idea goes back to the 17th century but the term fractal as a description to it was given in 1975.
 Quoting: Michael.


1975

Okay, and what is your main problem with Jesus?

Is he too ancient?
 Quoting: FairportNY


No problem at all I even met him that same year, His Hebrew name is Yahushua BTW. And yes I do accept Yahushua as my Messiah.
 Quoting: Michael.


Yeshua Hamashiach?
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If that is who you see him as.

Yahushua is how he was introduced to me so that is how I call upon him. Yahushua means "Yahweh is our Salvation" or Yahweh is Salvation".

When one uses the Babylonian custom then his name is often written as Yehshua to avoid using Yah which is short for Yahweh or YHWH.
Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.
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If that is who you see him as.

Yahushua is how he was introduced to me so that is how I call upon him. Yahushua means "Yahweh is our Salvation" or Yahweh is Salvation".

When one uses the Babylonian custom then his name is often written as Yehshua to avoid using Yah which is short for Yahweh or YHWH.
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God bless you Michael, in Jesus' name.
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If that is who you see him as.

Yahushua is how he was introduced to me so that is how I call upon him. Yahushua means "Yahweh is our Salvation" or Yahweh is Salvation".

When one uses the Babylonian custom then his name is often written as Yehshua to avoid using Yah which is short for Yahweh or YHWH.
 Quoting: Michael.



God bless you Michael, in Jesus' name.
 Quoting: FairportNY


You may think of him as YHWH, and I may think of him as the son of YHWH. It is for each of us to seek the truth on our own in earnest and we will find it.

The Son being a Fractal of the Father would explain quite a bit in my opinion. Soon we all shall know.

For me if he was YHWH the angel who introduced him to me would have called him YHWH not Yahushua. I also feel that seeing and meeting him face to face also indicates Yahushua is the Son not the Father. But hey we all have the right to believe what we want.

May YHWH Bless you.
Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.
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If that is who you see him as.

Yahushua is how he was introduced to me so that is how I call upon him. Yahushua means "Yahweh is our Salvation" or Yahweh is Salvation".

When one uses the Babylonian custom then his name is often written as Yehshua to avoid using Yah which is short for Yahweh or YHWH.
 Quoting: Michael.



God bless you Michael, in Jesus' name.
 Quoting: FairportNY


You may think of him as YHWH, and I may think of him as the son of YHWH. It is for each of us to seek the truth on our own in earnest and we will find it.

The Son being a Fractal of the Father would explain quite a bit in my opinion. Soon we all shall know.

For me if he was YHWH the angel who introduced him to me would have called him YHWH not Yahushua. I also feel that seeing and meeting him face to face also indicates Yahushua is the Son not the Father. But hey we all have the right to believe what we want.

May YHWH Bless you.
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Thank you

See when I hear 'fractal', I always confuse it with 'fraction'.

Jesus was not a fraction, He was a whole, from the beginning.

I hope you agree
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If that is who you see him as.

Yahushua is how he was introduced to me so that is how I call upon him. Yahushua means "Yahweh is our Salvation" or Yahweh is Salvation".

When one uses the Babylonian custom then his name is often written as Yehshua to avoid using Yah which is short for Yahweh or YHWH.
 Quoting: Michael.



God bless you Michael, in Jesus' name.
 Quoting: FairportNY


You may think of him as YHWH, and I may think of him as the son of YHWH. It is for each of us to seek the truth on our own in earnest and we will find it.

The Son being a Fractal of the Father would explain quite a bit in my opinion. Soon we all shall know.

For me if he was YHWH the angel who introduced him to me would have called him YHWH not Yahushua. I also feel that seeing and meeting him face to face also indicates Yahushua is the Son not the Father. But hey we all have the right to believe what we want.

May YHWH Bless you.
 Quoting: Michael.


Thank you

See when I hear 'fractal', I always confuse it with 'fraction'.

Jesus was not a fraction, He was a whole, from the beginning.

I hope you agree
 Quoting: FairportNY


Ahh that's the difference and it does explain a lot. With a fractal contains the same exact image throughout to infinity. Father is spirit therefore any part of him is spirit.

You know what's cool DNA is Fractal also. (created in their image? Hmmm. )

That's why I quoted the verse I did. he that has seen me has seen the Father.
Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.
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God bless you Michael, in Jesus' name.
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You may think of him as YHWH, and I may think of him as the son of YHWH. It is for each of us to seek the truth on our own in earnest and we will find it.

The Son being a Fractal of the Father would explain quite a bit in my opinion. Soon we all shall know.

For me if he was YHWH the angel who introduced him to me would have called him YHWH not Yahushua. I also feel that seeing and meeting him face to face also indicates Yahushua is the Son not the Father. But hey we all have the right to believe what we want.

May YHWH Bless you.
 Quoting: Michael.


Thank you

See when I hear 'fractal', I always confuse it with 'fraction'.

Jesus was not a fraction, He was a whole, from the beginning.

I hope you agree
 Quoting: FairportNY


Ahh that's the difference and it does explain a lot. With a fractal contains the same exact image throughout to infinity. Father is spirit therefore any part of him is spirit.

You know what's cool DNA is Fractal also. (created in their image? Hmmm. )

That's why I quoted the verse I did. he that has seen me has seen the Father.
 Quoting: Michael.


See I want to agree with all this,

wiki says

'A fractal is a natural phenomenon or a mathematical set that exhibits a repeating pattern that displays at every scale. '


Why must it be a repeating pattern? What would this have to do with Jesus?
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You may think of him as YHWH, and I may think of him as the son of YHWH. It is for each of us to seek the truth on our own in earnest and we will find it.

The Son being a Fractal of the Father would explain quite a bit in my opinion. Soon we all shall know.

For me if he was YHWH the angel who introduced him to me would have called him YHWH not Yahushua. I also feel that seeing and meeting him face to face also indicates Yahushua is the Son not the Father. But hey we all have the right to believe what we want.

May YHWH Bless you.
 Quoting: Michael.


Thank you

See when I hear 'fractal', I always confuse it with 'fraction'.

Jesus was not a fraction, He was a whole, from the beginning.

I hope you agree
 Quoting: FairportNY


Ahh that's the difference and it does explain a lot. With a fractal contains the same exact image throughout to infinity. Father is spirit therefore any part of him is spirit.

You know what's cool DNA is Fractal also. (created in their image? Hmmm. )

That's why I quoted the verse I did. he that has seen me has seen the Father.
 Quoting: Michael.


See I want to agree with all this,

wiki says

'A fractal is a natural phenomenon or a mathematical set that exhibits a repeating pattern that displays at every scale. '


Why must it be a repeating pattern? What would this have to do with Jesus?
 Quoting: FairportNY


Without beginning or end my friend.

YHWH is spirit, If a Fractal of that Spirit was placed in the womb that Fractal would be the image of YHWH himself.
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Thank you

See when I hear 'fractal', I always confuse it with 'fraction'.

Jesus was not a fraction, He was a whole, from the beginning.

I hope you agree
 Quoting: FairportNY


Ahh that's the difference and it does explain a lot. With a fractal contains the same exact image throughout to infinity. Father is spirit therefore any part of him is spirit.

You know what's cool DNA is Fractal also. (created in their image? Hmmm. )

That's why I quoted the verse I did. he that has seen me has seen the Father.
 Quoting: Michael.


See I want to agree with all this,

wiki says

'A fractal is a natural phenomenon or a mathematical set that exhibits a repeating pattern that displays at every scale. '


Why must it be a repeating pattern? What would this have to do with Jesus?
 Quoting: FairportNY


Without beginning or end my friend.

YHWH is spirit, If a Fractal of that Spirit was placed in the womb that Fractal would be the image of YHWH himself.
 Quoting: Michael.


Okay. If you agree that the human body of Jesus had an end,

then things make sense. Good night
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Ahh that's the difference and it does explain a lot. With a fractal contains the same exact image throughout to infinity. Father is spirit therefore any part of him is spirit.

You know what's cool DNA is Fractal also. (created in their image? Hmmm. )

That's why I quoted the verse I did. he that has seen me has seen the Father.
 Quoting: Michael.


See I want to agree with all this,

wiki says

'A fractal is a natural phenomenon or a mathematical set that exhibits a repeating pattern that displays at every scale. '


Why must it be a repeating pattern? What would this have to do with Jesus?
 Quoting: FairportNY


Without beginning or end my friend.

YHWH is spirit, If a Fractal of that Spirit was placed in the womb that Fractal would be the image of YHWH himself.
 Quoting: Michael.


Okay. If you agree that the human body of Jesus had an end,

then things make sense. Good night
 Quoting: FairportNY


Yes the flesh had an end but not the spirit Yahushua experienced the death of the flesh.

It's late even here Good night.
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After every Proof text Scripture has been refuted ... Why not become a unitarian ?
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Psalms
82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
Luke
24:34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
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Psalms
82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
Luke
24:34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
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?
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Psalms
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Luke
24:34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
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?
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Psalms
119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
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Twisting the word, then twisting it some more. It doesn't say that God does not display the human-like attributed, it say God is not human. God is not mortal (Job 9:32). God is spirit (John 4:24), not man.
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how many times do i need to quote John 1:14 bro
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How many times to I need to refute it, bro?

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Yes, I know you don't do videos, but if you don't understand it you need someone to explain it to you. The logos is never identified as the person Jesus.
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What is the Word made flesh, then.
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I already explained it to you several times. Psalms 33:6-9 c.r. Luke 1:35.
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Ahh that's the difference and it does explain a lot. With a fractal contains the same exact image throughout to infinity. Father is spirit therefore any part of him is spirit.

You know what's cool DNA is Fractal also. (created in their image? Hmmm. )

That's why I quoted the verse I did. he that has seen me has seen the Father.
 Quoting: Michael.


See I want to agree with all this,

wiki says

'A fractal is a natural phenomenon or a mathematical set that exhibits a repeating pattern that displays at every scale. '


Why must it be a repeating pattern? What would this have to do with Jesus?
 Quoting: FairportNY


Without beginning or end my friend.

YHWH is spirit, If a Fractal of that Spirit was placed in the womb that Fractal would be the image of YHWH himself.
 Quoting: Michael.


Okay. If you agree that the human body of Jesus had an end,

then things make sense. Good night
 Quoting: FairportNY


So Jesus didn't die?
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Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.


Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
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Why include Matthew 4:1, when it says TO BE

Reading comprehension, anyone?
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Because he was to be tempted, then he was tempted. Problem? You people are not only blaphemous, you're also insulting your own God given intellect by your childish arguments.
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God cannot be tempted. Do you need all the verses cited to you
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Yet Jesus was tempted. Thus not God. You trinitarians are even contradicting your own previous arguments within the pages of this thread.
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?
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Psalms
119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
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Pray for God to Give you Wisdom ! He honors such a request
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Why include Matthew 4:1, when it says TO BE

Reading comprehension, anyone?
 Quoting: FairportNY


Because he was to be tempted, then he was tempted. Problem? You people are not only blaphemous, you're also insulting your own God given intellect by your childish arguments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70265483


God cannot be tempted. Do you need all the verses cited to you
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Yet Jesus was tempted. Thus not God. You trinitarians are even contradicting your own previous arguments within the pages of this thread.
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All I could do was pray for the person .. It's really quite astounding the things they come up with .

How's It going my Friend ?
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Re: If Jesus is God how could he die for our Sins?
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Because he was to be tempted, then he was tempted. Problem? You people are not only blaphemous, you're also insulting your own God given intellect by your childish arguments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70265483


God cannot be tempted. Do you need all the verses cited to you
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Yet Jesus was tempted. Thus not God. You trinitarians are even contradicting your own previous arguments within the pages of this thread.
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All I could do was pray for the person .. It's really quite astounding the things they come up with .

How's It going my Friend ?
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They're grasping at straws and looking ridiculous doing so. May God open their hearts, minds and ears. It's going fine, I think. You?
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09/08/2015 08:18 PM
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God cannot be tempted. Do you need all the verses cited to you
 Quoting: FairportNY


Yet Jesus was tempted. Thus not God. You trinitarians are even contradicting your own previous arguments within the pages of this thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70279773


All I could do was pray for the person .. It's really quite astounding the things they come up with .

How's It going my Friend ?
 Quoting: Priest King 63963284


They're grasping at straws and looking ridiculous doing so. May God open their hearts, minds and ears. It's going fine, I think. You?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70279773


Amen .

Yea it's Going fine here also





GLP