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08/29/2015 07:11 AM
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Zwarte Piet
‘Reminder of slavery’: UN wants to scrub Holland’s Black Pete holiday character


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I have been in the netherlands a few times and i saw the folklore as this holiday character . What the problem ?


Have you ever seen the 'saci pererê' ? Google it and you will have a BIG surprise about the brazilian folklore. 1rof1
grumpier

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08/29/2015 07:23 AM
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Re: Zwarte Piet
Zwarte piet moet blijven

Zwarte piet must stay

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08/29/2015 07:29 AM
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We already have it over 732 years in our history...let it be.
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08/29/2015 07:34 AM
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Zwarte Piet is a national embarrassment. If it's just tradition and gun, why not paying the kids' faces blue or yellow? Because he has to be black because it's racism.

And why are we still bending the knee to a Spanish bishop anyway? The Dutch hand internalized their colonial past better than any other country, mentally were still Spain's bitch.
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08/29/2015 07:51 AM
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It's not easy to persuade people to change a culture.
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08/29/2015 07:54 AM
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In Belgium we also have zwarte piet. What we learned as a kid was that originally he was white BUT because he always had to enter chimneys to give presents to the good kids he became black.
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08/29/2015 07:57 AM
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BUT because he always had to enter chimneys to give presents to the good kids he became black.
 Quoting: topbanker


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08/29/2015 07:58 AM
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In Belgium we also have zwarte piet. What we learned as a kid was that originally he was white BUT because he always had to enter chimneys to give presents to the good kids he became black.
 Quoting: topbanker


Yeah that's what they say now because they're being accused of racism. It's bullshit and there's no evidence of the soot story before the 60s. Zwarte Piet is Sint's black slave.
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08/29/2015 07:59 AM
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BUT because he always had to enter chimneys to give presents to the good kids he became black.
 Quoting: topbanker


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yea i know lol buts that what they say to the kids as long as i can remeber lol
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08/29/2015 08:04 AM
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BUT because he always had to enter chimneys to give presents to the good kids he became black.
 Quoting: topbanker


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70183106


yea i know lol buts that what they say to the kids as long as i can remeber lol
 Quoting: topbanker





Funny history anyway. However Sinterklaas(St. Nicholas) had to enter chimneys too. Hey, why he was not becaming black also ?



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08/29/2015 08:09 AM
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From what I've noticed they are very very passionate about this tradition, and the UN and 'anti-racist' groups are very passionate about trying to get rid of it!
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08/29/2015 08:15 AM
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Holland should immiedately stop paying its UN dues and not pay any more until the UN shuts its mouth.
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08/29/2015 08:19 AM
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Holland should immiedately stop paying its UN dues and not pay any more until the UN shuts its mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70049191


Since most of their institutions are based here, we need the rent money.

Other than your boring and predictable anti-U.N. position, why did you feel the need to bump this thread? You been instructed to slide something else from p.1 maybe?
HenryHolland

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08/29/2015 08:28 AM
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Re: Zwarte Piet
Piet Piet Piet?
Waar is Piet?
Welnu, Piet die is er niet.
Dit doet ons veel verdriet.

Door zeurpieten uit het buitenste buitenbos
Is Zwarte Piet nu de klos.
Piet is zwart door de roet.
Begrijp dat dan toch nu eens goed.

Piet wordt weer eens afgeschoten.
Gaat heel Nederland nu verder naar de kloten?

Wat moet de goede Sint hier wel niet van denken.
Met al z'n geschenken.

Ik stel voor.
Alle zeurpieten NU uit Nederland.
Ga maar klagen in je eigen land.
En donder op!

(Sorry folks, this poem only for Dutch speaking GLP'ers)

Last Edited by HenryHolland on 08/29/2015 08:30 AM
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08/29/2015 08:33 AM
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Ik stel voor.
Alle zeurpieten NU uit Nederland.
Ga maar klagen in je eigen land.
En donder op!

(Sorry folks, this poem only for Dutch speaking GLP'ers)
 Quoting: HenryHolland


For non-speakers, I'd just like to point out that this Moran is complaining about people who don't like racist icons, then in this final part he demands that anyone who is a complainer be banished from Holland. Irony isn't easy for our bible-belt idiots, any more than in the USA.
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08/29/2015 08:41 AM

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Re: Zwarte Piet
Zwarte piet moet blijven

Zwarte piet must stay


 Quoting: grumpier


^^ this ^^

Boycott Ahold, Hema, V&D and all other companies that sell out to those whining welfare leeches by changing the color of Zwarte Piet!

#blackpetematters
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08/29/2015 08:51 AM
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Re: Zwarte Piet
Zwarte piet moet blijven

Zwarte piet must stay


 Quoting: grumpier


^^ this ^^

Boycott Ahold, Hema, V&D and all other companies that sell out to those whining welfare leeches by changing the color of Zwarte Piet!

#blackpetematters
 Quoting: KipKat


The majority of the country is against you, but not insane enough to rant about it all the time. It's 3 months til pakjesavond and people are already defending their traditional rights to be a racist fool? It's 28° outside, enjoy the summer while you can and save your racist lunacy for December where it belongs.
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08/29/2015 09:09 AM
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Re: Zwarte Piet
The UN fixed the problem in Syria to,and they fixed the global warmin g problem and not to forget the refugee problem.they do Good things ;-) fucking up a kids story get a real job .black Piet is black because he slidces downn chimneys with gifts for kids.
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08/29/2015 09:12 AM
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The UN fixed the problem in Syria to,and they fixed the global warmin g problem and not to forget the refugee problem.they do Good things ;-) fucking up a kids story get a real job .black Piet is black because he slidces downn chimneys with gifts for kids.
 Quoting: Pink shit 69703588


You, sir, are a credit to your argument. Before this, I thought all the "zwarte Piet moet blijven" people were all uneducated, slavering cretins incapable of constructing an argument. Now I'm all turned around.
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08/29/2015 09:13 AM
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Apartheid is a Dutch word .if there is 1 non racist country in this world it must be Holland .but dont take away this kids story .
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08/29/2015 09:15 AM

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thatsracistkid
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Re: Zwarte Piet
In Belgium we also have zwarte piet. What we learned as a kid was that originally he was white BUT because he always had to enter chimneys to give presents to the good kids he became black.
 Quoting: topbanker


Yeah that's what they say now because they're being accused of racism. It's bullshit and there's no evidence of the soot story before the 60s. Zwarte Piet is Sint's black slave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12773607


This is true, it's a cover up to remain PC. I knew about Black Pete from my Dutch friends.
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot
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08/29/2015 09:20 AM
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thatsracistkid
 Quoting: EekTheCat


Netherlands is weird.. just google Sinterklass.

[link to i.imgur.com]

Last Edited by BlueRidge Doom on 08/29/2015 09:21 AM
Have you noticed that we always kill off the good guys and let the demons run amok?
But don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride.

Follow God.
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08/29/2015 09:22 AM

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Re: Zwarte Piet
Zwarte piet moet blijven

Zwarte piet must stay


 Quoting: grumpier


^^ this ^^

Boycott Ahold, Hema, V&D and all other companies that sell out to those whining welfare leeches by changing the color of Zwarte Piet!

#blackpetematters
 Quoting: KipKat


The majority of the country is against you, but not insane enough to rant about it all the time. It's 3 months til pakjesavond and people are already defending their traditional rights to be a racist fool? It's 28° outside, enjoy the summer while you can and save your racist lunacy for December where it belongs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12773607


Wrong! The mayority is sick of the whining and complaining about it by radical and professional complainers! The mayority doesn't want it to change either! Black Pete haters like you already started protesting in June, it's their fault it started early (or having this discussion again at all) It was never considered racist untill black racists thought they found a new way to make money playing the victim-card. FU Quinsy!

stfu and gtfo
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08/29/2015 09:25 AM
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Wrong! The mayority is sick of the whining and complaining about it by radical and professional complainers!
 Quoting: KipKat


Says the crazy person screaming on the internet on a sunny day in August.

rofl5
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08/29/2015 09:30 AM
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Netherlands is weird.. just google Sinterklass.

[link to i.imgur.com]
 Quoting: BlueRidge Doom





It's a hangover from our past as a Spanish colony. Obviously they tried to make it look like all good things come from the mother country.

We're the only country in Europe to embrace our past submission this way. It's like the Irish getting presents from John bull every year, or if the American kids got their presents from king George and his band of redcoats.


Only the most old fashioned people give a shit. They generally live in the south and they're really religious in a NO FUN ALLOWED. Sort of way and the rest of the country sort of humour s them and ignores them because they're really embarrassing.
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08/29/2015 09:31 AM

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Wrong! The mayority is sick of the whining and complaining about it by radical and professional complainers!
 Quoting: KipKat


Says the crazy person screaming on the internet on a sunny day in August.

rofl5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12773607


I will support my national heritage throughout the year, not just when it's convenient!

(Posting from my tablet sitting in the sun during my day of from working to support the welfare leeches!)

chill

Last Edited by KipKat on 08/29/2015 09:39 AM
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08/29/2015 09:37 AM
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Come on peoples. Netherlands is a good country and peaceful. The zwarte piet is not a horror movie actor with a knife (it is not a problem). The real problem is around possibilities of radical islamists getting inside EU. (infiltrated like a refugee ?).

Read it :


Renewed warning that ISIS plans to infiltrate ‘refugee’ flow to Europe


[link to refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com (secure)]



Yep, Ban Ki-moon shloud be worry abou that.


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08/29/2015 09:38 AM
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It's a hangover from our past as a Spanish colony. Obviously they tried to make it look like all good things come from the mother country.

We're the only country in Europe to embrace our past submission this way. It's like the Irish getting presents from John bull every year, or if the American kids got their presents from king George and his band of redcoats.


Only the most old fashioned people give a shit. They generally live in the south and they're really religious in a NO FUN ALLOWED. Sort of way and the rest of the country sort of humour s them and ignores them because they're really embarrassing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12773607


The reason I like Sinterklass is because I feel he is a true representation of our Santa Clause.. Bastard never had elves working for him.. or reigndeer.. he wore a pointy hat, rode a pale horse, and had slaves making his gifts.

clappa

Last Edited by BlueRidge Doom on 08/29/2015 09:38 AM
Have you noticed that we always kill off the good guys and let the demons run amok?
But don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride.

Follow God.
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08/29/2015 09:38 AM
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national heritage

:chill:
 Quoting: KipKat


Could you be any more of a sheep?


cruise
You telling me you don't claim anything at all from the govt? No need to lie, we're all anonymous here...

You're bought and paid for.
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08/29/2015 09:44 AM
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Ik stel voor.
Alle zeurpieten NU uit Nederland.
Ga maar klagen in je eigen land.
En donder op!

(Sorry folks, this poem only for Dutch speaking GLP'ers)
 Quoting: HenryHolland


For non-speakers, I'd just like to point out that this Moran is complaining about people who don't like racist icons, then in this final part he demands that anyone who is a complainer be banished from Holland. Irony isn't easy for our bible-belt idiots, any more than in the USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12773607


What is wrong g with saying if u cannot get along with a custom, go back to ur own country?

Is this anti-G-d? Is this idolatry? I did not think so.





GLP