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USA is a British Corporation since 1812

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robin nli
User ID: 47797
United States
9/24/2006 10:00 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

im so proud of you guys!
yes this info is quite real.


your car is actually owned by the DMV...they hold the PARAMOUNT title.
you simply get the certificate of title which means you are leasing from them...even if its paid off.

we are collateral on the nations debt.
our bodies, minds, souls, labor, property, and children (considered wards of the State).

the way to get around this, and be FREE is to become SOVEREIGN...which begins by filing a UCC1 form.

now its of VITAL importance the wording is precise.the words you and i use in our everyday language does NOT mean the same as it does to the govt or irs.

'person' to the UCC CODES, is a corporation...an 'individual' is not.
'income' is what you are being taxed on.

however, your wages are called 'compensation'.

your profits from stocks, investments etc. are called 'income'.

they know we dont want to pore through legalese.they count on this! they count on our ignorance.

IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE IN THE LAW! YOU ARE REQUIRED TO KNOW THIS.

lots of sites about becoming sovereign and taking back your Rights.
they dont want you to know this!!!!!!
Sunny1
User ID: 147236
United States
9/24/2006 10:01 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

I need to appologize for the misinformation. My original post was incorresct as to the date. But ONLY the date was wrong. I stand by the remainder.


[link to www.the7thfire.com]


One of the first acts, within two years, that President Washington did was to declare an emergency. William Morris with the help of Alexander Hamilton, Secretary of Treasury, heavily promoted the first national bank (Bank of England, Babylon) to legislation in order to create a private bank. In 1781, Congress chartered the first national bank for a term of 20 years, to the same European bankers that were holding the debts before the war. The bankers loaned worthless, un-backed, non-secured printed money to each other to charter this first bank.

After thousands of lives were lost fighting a war to get control of our own money, why did congress contract with the same bankers that STARTED the revolutionary war in the first place?
Very simple. Since the Crown (House of Rothschild) was the creditor, they demanded a private bank to hold the securities of the United States as the pledged assets to the Crown of England in order to secure the debt to which the United States had defaulted. The holder of the securities was the private bank. So under public international law, the creditor nation forced the United States to establish a private bank to hold the securities as the collateral for the loan.

1785 AD - The youngest Rothschild, Nathan, expanded his wealth to 20,000 pounds in a 15 year period by using other peoples money. An increase of 2500%.
1787 AD - Amschel Rothschild made the famous statement: "Let me issue and control a Nation's money, and I care not who writes the laws."

Thomas Jefferson stated, "If the American people ever allow the previous banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and the corporations which grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake homeless on the Continent their fathers conquered."

1798 AD - The five Rothschild brothers expanded by opening banks in each of the major cities of Europe. Amschel Mayer, Germany; Solomon, Vienna; Jacob, Paris; Nathan, London; Carl, Naples.

The charter for the private bank was for 20 years-- or until around 1811. What happened in 1812? The War of 1812. What did England attack? Washington, D.C... the ten miles square where they burned the White House and other buildings.

Was the attack by England on the ten miles square an act of war? No, it was not. Under public international law, what was an act of war was the United States not extending the first national bank into the second national bank to continue to maintain the securities on the unpaid debt. So when the United States did an act of war by not giving the lawful creditor his securities in a peaceful manner, the only remedy open under international law to the creditor was to come in on letters of marque and seize the assets to protect his loan.

Did the second national bank get approved? Absolutely. After England attacked the nation that was in default, Americans saw the penalty for not and enacted the second national bank. This was for another 20 years, which was to expire about 1836.

In 1871 the default again loomed and bankruptcy was eminent. So in 1871, the ten miles square was incorporated in England. They used the constitution as their by-laws. Not as authority under the Constitution but as authority over the constitution. They copyrighted, not only the constitution but also many names such as, THE UNITED STATES, U.S. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, USA and many other titles as their own. This is the final blow to the original constitution. From here on out, the UNITED STATES was governed entirely by private corporate law, dictated by the banks as creditors.

Then, in 1909, default loomed once more. The US government went to the Crown of England and asked for an extension of time. This extension was granted for another 20 years on several conditions. One of the conditions was that the United States allow the creditors to establish a new national bank. This was done in 1913, with the Federal Reserve Bank. This, along with the 16th Amendment, collection of Income tax, enacted February 25, 1913, and the 17th Amendment enacted May 31, 1913, were the conditions for the extension of time. The 16th and 17th Amendment further reduced the states power. The UNITED STATES adopted the Babylonian system.





Birds eye View of American History
Description of Event
Pre 1776 Many battles with England over the money issues: Taxation, Money and Banking
1776 Declaration of Independence -- Revolutionary War fought
1777 Constitution for the united States of America
1791 First United States (National) Bank, with 20 year charter
1811 The Original 13th Amendment against Titles of Nobility, proposed and ratified by most states
1812 War of 1812, England attacks; burns Washington, D.C. and other record depositories
1815 War with England ends, treaty signed 1815, soldiers of England leave with arms (important point since a defeated military would not leave peacefully carrying with them their armament)
1813 2nd United States National Bank chartered for another 20 years
1819 After the War, original 13th Amendment ratified by Virginia breaking the 75% requirement: passed
1828 After severe abuse by bankers Andrew Jackson takes office on promise to route the vipers out
1832 2nd United States National Bank charter expires
1861-65 War between the States and the Union is fought. Union wins (U.S. Army) The original 13th Amendment is forgotten and buried in the ashes of this destructive war
1868 The so-called 13th and 14th Amendments are adopted . . .the U.S. takes over states
1871 The UNITED STATES is incorporated in England adopting the original constitution, through the 14th Amendments, as it's by-laws. (See 41st Congress, Session III, Chapter 61 and 62) Government is shifted to the private sector under private corporate law. However, We The People were still sovereign.
1868-80 All Union States adopt new legislatively created 'conditions' and 'codify' their laws. Under federal mandate. State 'codes' are unlawfully adopted despite their origin. "The purpose of 'Civil Law' is to establish and protect two classes of citizens"
1892 -- Bank 'panics' are caused by demand exceeding supply of lawful funds, etc. as international bankers manipulate credit (Value and Scarcity) Commerce. UCC began codification.
1901-15 Large tax-exempt Foundations plot social change and target us for war. JP Morgan captures control of newspapers.
1913-17 The Federal Reserve Act is unlawfully hatched and 'Income tax' is born
1917-18 World War I -- creates larger debt and lays foundations for WWII
1929 The Bank-led "Great Depression" starts just 15 years into the Federal Reserve Act
1933 FDR takes office as President and issues Executive Orders declaring a 'Bank Holiday
F.D.R. by Executive Order declares gold (lawful money) ownership illegal (Remember until this time We The People were still sovereign) Only U.S. Citizens were required to turn in their gold.
F.D.R. by Executive Order declares the people to be the enemy by illegally altering the Trading With the Enemy Act of 1861, revised 1917
F.D.R. and through Congress H.J.R.-192 declares U.S. bankrupt.
F.D.R. by Executive Order sweeps the Republic into the trash can and declares democracy
F.D.R. by Executive Order (dictatorship) proves himself a traitor to United States Constitution
F.D.R. initiates socialism (socialism) contrary to well established law, stacks the 1933-38 Supreme Court with democratic liberals and socialists
1933 Registration of Birth Certificates. Mothers volunteered children into slavery through this registration, giving Title to our bodies to the Commercial Registry
1934 Social Security System established
1938 Erie Railroad vs.Tompkins changes face of justice. No more common law in federal government.
1940 The Buck Act was passed establishing corporate state governments. This Act placed the states under the jurisdiction of the UNITED STATES Corporation
1941-45 World War II begins -- tax and spend begins, 'voluntary compliance' is encouraged by Walt Disney's Donald Duck cartoon
1945 Bretton Woods Treaty signed, United Nations Born.
1951 Uniform Commercial Code Adopted in law
1952-54 The Korean War - a can't win war, tax and spend, increase of the debt.
1958 California Constitution of 1879 completely repealed and replaced legislatively
1964 All remaining States adopt Uniform Commercial Code. UCC becomes The Law of the Land
1976 The American People, 14th Amendment citizens, as well as any and other citizens of America, lost total control of the court system in America -- See Senate Report 94-204. With this law, instead of courts law our courts were permitted to "construe and construct." This means that the various courts now have the authority through above legislation to change any statute, any case law, any word contained in those laws, to mean whatever they choose it to mean.
Sunny1
User ID: 147236
United States
9/24/2006 10:20 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

We are a sovereign entity with a deal that was struck in 1776.
 Quoting: The Architect


Sorry to burst your bubble, but your sovereinty was usurped by clever manipulation. The deal was broken shortly after it was struck.

You can however regain your sovereignty buy using the Banksters own statutes against them. The method is to copyright your ALL CAPS name, file a security agreement that establishes a lien against your ALL CAPS strawman,Accept for Value your birth certificate, and then file all these things with a UCC-1 form with the Secretary of Treasury.

You, the living soul, flesh and blood human has to stand up and take back your rights.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 146864
United Kingdom
9/24/2006 10:51 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

Well, that's explains why the flag of the United States is almost a copy of that East India Trading Company flag from 1801.

Take another red pill:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41594

That is freaky.
gwdance blair
W. W. Raupp
User ID: 75589
Netherlands
9/24/2006 10:55 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

And what does a company which operated in India has to do with the USA? Oh, the flags are quite similar. Morons.
To shape the world is to become immortal
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90982
United States
9/24/2006 11:05 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

And what does a company which operated in India has to do with the USA? Oh, the flags are quite similar. Morons.
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp

India being the proving grounds (aka Thomas Malthas et al) and USA being the "Great Experiment" for the next phase.

Can slaves regulate and care for themselves?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 80688
United States
9/24/2006 11:05 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

And what does a company which operated in India has to do with the USA? Oh, the flags are quite similar. Morons.
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp

Yes, thirteen stripes and all. Oh, wait, I forgot. Betsy Ross sewed that in to represent the uniquely american charactersitic of thirteen original colonies.

You're a dick and a small one at that!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147267
United Kingdom
9/24/2006 11:11 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

blair thats right bitches! fooled you into thinking George was MY boss didnt i!

We all seek power, fuck the fame ... the high rollers ... Ice T - 80\'s
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 147199


The "City of London" is a unique territory much like The Vatican. It is IN England, just like The Vatican is IN Italy. The "City of London" (The Crown) is OWNED by The Vatican. The Brits and Americans are OWNED by Mother Church.

The Vatican, Jewish Bankers & Zionists/Free-Masons work as a a team to create the NWO; its headquaters to be in Israel.

Who is "The Man" that both Bush and Blair work for? For those who believe the Royals are in control, you are wrong. They are puppets and just for show. The Royals have no power.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147273
United States
9/24/2006 11:14 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

More Here --- "The Occult World of Commerce"

[link to video.google.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 107433
United States
9/24/2006 11:23 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

Now try this:

Isn't this nation though run quite well if all above is true. In other words, except for the wars (which I admit is a biggie), the USA has done quite well under the English ownership system?

What does it matter then, the official documents say that we are owned? If the final result gets each person what they really want in life? If one can stay out of wars, not become a soldier and beat the system to make enough money to retire happily, then I say "good system". This entity of the US, then, is run fairly well. Can you argue that? Is not out standard of living very good?
Just stay on top of the things that might cause you to die prematurely because at the end of your life when you are not contributing to the entity anymore, the object is to kill you quickly (so stay away from doctors and conventional medicine and rely on proven age-old herbal remedies, eat organic, don't take the nasty vaccines they feed you, etc.)

Now, if we can just figure out a way to avoid the war-thing.
robin nli
User ID: 47797
United States
9/24/2006 11:29 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

listen...the MOST IMPORTANT POINT about this is getting your STRAWMAN back.

that is your ticket/papers to freedom.

it gives you back your Rights, which is the first step.


*we used to be united States of America....now, as a corporation,

(which can ONLY contract with OTHER corporations, not living souls=you and i)

..is now called UNITED STATES of AMERICA.

*thats how you know who you are dealing with=the all-capital letters are corporations.
watch how they spell YOUR name...

dont let the little things like raupp distract you...
hes frightened.
hes part of them and as an 'employee' MUST pay his income taxes...because of his job=debunking...or, lol TRYING to.
he cant get out.

the elite and the wealthy USE these UCC codes to aquire and KEEP their riches.
THIS is how they do it.

the money is EVERYTHING to them...the COMMERCE i should say.
its not just global...people, its faaaaaar bigger.
but for now, lets understand what OUR laws and rules are.

if you are sovereign, you are NOT under the govts JURISDICTION.

****we have to get our forms filled out BEFORE tptb make it 'illegal' somehow...which they CANT anyway.... but im not putting it past them to come up with some damn devious brainschild to keep us from becoming free, once we figure out how the damn GAME is played.

do you realize how many people dont even understand the very first concept of even playing in a GAME To begin with...?

lol

THANK YOU SUNNY1 :)
Ajax
User ID: 140606
United States
9/24/2006 11:30 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

Now try this:

Isn't this nation though run quite well if all above is true. In other words, except for the wars (which I admit is a biggie), the USA has done quite well under the English ownership system?

What does it matter then, the official documents say that we are owned? If the final result gets each person what they really want in life? If one can stay out of wars, not become a soldier and beat the system to make enough money to retire happily, then I say "good system". This entity of the US, then, is run fairly well. Can you argue that? Is not out standard of living very good?
Just stay on top of the things that might cause you to die prematurely because at the end of your life when you are not contributing to the entity anymore, the object is to kill you quickly (so stay away from doctors and conventional medicine and rely on proven age-old herbal remedies, eat organic, don't take the nasty vaccines they feed you, etc.)

Now, if we can just figure out a way to avoid the war-thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 107433


No.
That is not good enough. Accepting anything other than the whole truth & nothing but the truth is a lie.
But that is up to you in the end.
thank you
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 107433
United States
9/24/2006 11:35 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

Have you been denied "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happines"?

Have you?

If so, when? If you can pinpoint when that was then don't let that "event" happen again and you will have what has been promised.

LLP
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 107433
United States
9/24/2006 11:36 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness"?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 107433
United States
9/24/2006 11:36 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

Of course for those who have been tricked into dying in a war can't go back to remedy the situation.
Duro
User ID: 133010
United States
9/24/2006 11:36 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

jordan maxwell speaks on this!!

[url] [link to video.google.com] l+tsarion [/url]
robin nli
User ID: 47797
United States
9/24/2006 11:37 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

standard of living?

wait a minute.

if you pay off your property it is yours flat out=
its paid off.

but no...thats not how it REALLY works is it?
your property WILL be taken away if you dont pay the taxes on it....every year of your life.
do you really believe you should continue paying a rental fee for all of your property to the govt?
thats what it is...a rental or leasing fee.
like that?
how can you have a good standard of living if there is the chance they will take all your property because of an illegal tax to begin with?

*what does the mortgage really mean (according to law?)
dead pledge.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 107433
United States
9/24/2006 11:38 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

Compare this to ownership of property in China. Isn't our system better, despite the taxes?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 107433
United States
9/24/2006 11:39 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

The world is a lie! Pick the best lie and live there.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147267
United Kingdom
9/24/2006 11:43 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

jordan maxwell speaks on this!!

[url] [link to video.google.com] l+tsarion [/url]
 Quoting: Duro 133010

I believe Jordan Maxwell works for "Them". I don't trust the guy one bit.
Duro
User ID: 133010
United States
9/24/2006 11:45 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

jordan maxwell speaks on this!!

[url] [link to video.google.com] l+tsarion [/url]

I believe Jordan Maxwell works for "Them". I don't trust the guy one bit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 147267

Really?.....I don't believe that.But i did question it at one point!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90982
United States
9/24/2006 11:54 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

We are a sovereign entity with a deal that was struck in 1776.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but your sovereinty was usurped by clever manipulation. The deal was broken shortly after it was struck.

You can however regain your sovereignty buy using the Banksters own statutes against them. The method is to copyright your ALL CAPS name, file a security agreement that establishes a lien against your ALL CAPS strawman,Accept for Value your birth certificate, and then file all these things with a UCC-1 form with the Secretary of Treasury.

You, the living soul, flesh and blood human has to stand up and take back your rights.
 Quoting: Sunny1 147236


Sunny1,

According to the copyright.gov website a name is not copyright-able. How do you do do this?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147267
United Kingdom
9/24/2006 11:57 AM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

jordan maxwell speaks on this!!

[url] [link to video.google.com] l+tsarion [/url]

I believe Jordan Maxwell works for "Them". I don't trust the guy one bit.

Really?.....I don't believe that.But i did question it at one point!
 Quoting: Duro 133010

I don't have proof, although he tells only half the story. It is more intuition than anything that tells me that Jordan Maxwell has ulterior motives.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147206
Switzerland
9/24/2006 12:01 PM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

More Here --- "The Occult World of Commerce"

[link to video.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 147273


how funny this video is. The speaker speaks about the importance of words and that words are creating the things we experience! and he speaks against the illuminati and your 'right' to 'be free'! Brainwashing in action! an illuminati shill!
Duro
User ID: 133010
United States
9/24/2006 12:07 PM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

jordan maxwell speaks on this!!

[url] [link to video.google.com] l+tsarion [/url]

I believe Jordan Maxwell works for "Them". I don't trust the guy one bit.

Really?.....I don't believe that.But i did question it at one point!

I don't have proof, although he tells only half the story. It is more intuition than anything that tells me that Jordan Maxwell has ulterior motives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 147267

I think because we are bombarded with disinformationist,(he is working for "them")is immediately applied to someone like Jordan Maxwell.i respect your opinion though.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 41594
Germany
9/24/2006 12:51 PM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

And what does a company which operated in India has to do with the USA? Oh, the flags are quite similar. Morons.
 Quoting: W. W. Raupp


The British East India Company was not just "a" trading company. It shaped the world as we know it today.

And isn't it funny how that flag was choosen after the Boston Tea Party which was one of the events leading to the revolution?
cossack47
User ID: 132727
United Kingdom
9/24/2006 12:57 PM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

This is patent nonsense; the U.S. emerged stronger economically from WW2 due to it`s dividend from "lend-lease" whereas Britain was bankrupt and effectively "in hock" to the U.S.A. Both economies are now of course effectively owned by Israel as she is the principal holder of both currencies [pound & dollar].This is of course why U.K. & U.S. are tied - like it or not - to the unconditional support of Israel - both financially , militarily , and politically. We are CAPTIVE STATES and our "votes" are a cruel hoax.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147295
United States
9/24/2006 1:10 PM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

According to the copyright.gov website a name is not copyright-able. How do you do do this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 90982


The name you copyright is the ALL CAPS name of the fictitious entity.
Are not GENERAL MILLS, PROCTOR GAMBLE, MACDONALDS names? Are they not copyrights? Try using one of them for business purposes and see how far you get.
fawnknudsen
User ID: 88188
United States
9/24/2006 1:12 PM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

Hey, Ive been saying this all along! 1863, General Orders 100, putting the nation under Martial Law (never recinded). 1871, The US District of Columbia Act makes US GOV a US CORP (when the south walked out of COngress, Lincoln had to do something). And 1944, the Britton Woods Agreement, making US CORP own by a the IMF, a foriegn corporation. Its all under "Patriot Mythology" (the little tool bar on the left) at: [link to www.teamlaw.org]

Inform yourselves! Tell everyone about teamlaw!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90982
United States
9/24/2006 1:15 PM
Re: USA is a British Corporation since 1812Quote

According to the copyright.gov website a name is not copyright-able. How do you do do this?

Are they not copyrights?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 147295

No.

I think you are confusing copyrights with trademarks and registered trademarks.

The question to Sunny1 still is on the table. Sunny1 have you done this?
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