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Anonymous Coward 09/01/2015 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP....do you use that IG trading platform? If so, on a smartphone or desktop/laptop? I do not. I work with funds who invest in real estate...that is my game. I have a trading account for grains and use TDA for stocks...small time though. Investment real estate throughout the US is my game. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49403676 United States 09/01/2015 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, good call a deflationary bear market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832 Now, like we asked in 2008 on this very same forum, can the fed engineer another boom/bust cycle or will this one finally kill off the dollar? . This one kills the dollar. There is no backup plan. One that China and allies have orchestrated well. The next phase of their plans will probably make you shit your pants, if it doesn't kill you first. That said, with a little luck, a slight change in destiny will force them to expose it all prematurely... Either way, it doesn't end well, and could be worse if not accomplished before the 21st. Suggest heavy drinking, and elaborate entertainment between now and then, followed by a day or two of repentance, deep reflection and soul preparation. Good luck, see you on the other side of this, or maybe just on the other side. Cheers. |
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FreedomFries User ID: 45465458 United States 09/01/2015 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's bad that one day financial sites are saying "Today was the worst x in x years" then a couple days later "Today was the best x in x years" Makes me think of the famous opening line: It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only. Freedom costs a buck'o five |
Anonymous Coward 09/01/2015 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, good call a deflationary bear market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832 Now, like we asked in 2008 on this very same forum, can the fed engineer another boom/bust cycle or will this one finally kill off the dollar? . This one kills the dollar. There is no backup plan. One that China and allies have orchestrated well. The next phase of their plans will probably make you shit your pants, if it doesn't kill you first. That said, with a little luck, a slight change in destiny will force them to expose it all prematurely... Either way, it doesn't end well, and could be worse if not accomplished before the 21st. Suggest heavy drinking, and elaborate entertainment between now and then, followed by a day or two of repentance, deep reflection and soul preparation. Good luck, see you on the other side of this, or maybe just on the other side. Cheers. Having a tall Balvenie on the rocks as we speak. I happen to agree with you...we will be fortunate to come through this without serious pain. |
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Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 09/01/2015 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP....do you use that IG trading platform? If so, on a smartphone or desktop/laptop? I do not. I work with funds who invest in real estate...that is my game. I have a trading account for grains and use TDA for stocks...small time though. Investment real estate throughout the US is my game. ahhh I see. OK...thanks. I'm looking for an something that works well, and has a nice efficient modern software interface, on a Blackberry Passport. The eSignal / Quotrek software offered for it looks like it was designed in 1998. Thanks again. |
WhiteAngel also known at WA User ID: 70068364 United States 09/01/2015 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP....do you use that IG trading platform? If so, on a smartphone or desktop/laptop? Oops misunderstood stood question.... Last Edited by WhiteAngel on 09/01/2015 05:28 PM Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
WhiteAngel also known at WA User ID: 70068364 United States 09/01/2015 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is that bad?, could it mean job losses?. In fact the losses over the last week or so on the stockmarket could we start to see layoffs soon? yes they already started :hidetomato: :hidetomato: Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Shut Up Meg User ID: 63304242 United States 09/01/2015 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, good call a deflationary bear market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832 Now, like we asked in 2008 on this very same forum, can the fed engineer another boom/bust cycle or will this one finally kill off the dollar? . This one kills the dollar. There is no backup plan. THIS ^^^^^ I'm gonna bet "they" will manage to keep it propped up for now, but, ultimately, no resurrection. We are in for a massive power shift. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49403676 United States 09/01/2015 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, good call a deflationary bear market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832 Now, like we asked in 2008 on this very same forum, can the fed engineer another boom/bust cycle or will this one finally kill off the dollar? . This one kills the dollar. There is no backup plan. One that China and allies have orchestrated well. The next phase of their plans will probably make you shit your pants, if it doesn't kill you first. That said, with a little luck, a slight change in destiny will force them to expose it all prematurely... Either way, it doesn't end well, and could be worse if not accomplished before the 21st. Suggest heavy drinking, and elaborate entertainment between now and then, followed by a day or two of repentance, deep reflection and soul preparation. Good luck, see you on the other side of this, or maybe just on the other side. Cheers. Having a tall Balvenie on the rocks as we speak. I happen to agree with you...we will be fortunate to come through this without serious pain. You have no idea what is coming, be thankful for that. Drink up friend, been fun, but not real fun... We bought ourselves a few years, grand while it lasted, but destiny is a Bitch that can't be avoided for much longer. Cheers, again. |
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noneya999 User ID: 69789704 United States 09/01/2015 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, good call a deflationary bear market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832 Now, like we asked in 2008 on this very same forum, can the fed engineer another boom/bust cycle or will this one finally kill off the dollar? . This one kills the dollar. There is no backup plan. and what happens after massive deflation? HYPER INFLATION! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68732327 United States 09/01/2015 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will go on record here. Quoting: Fire Watch Long term (2+ years) projection: Best case scenario - S&P 1,400 Most likely Scenario - S&P 900 Worst case scenario - S&P 600 No fire. It'll be longer. At least five years from I've discussed with fellow investors. I just want to take a sigh of relief I got out last month. Maybe it's time for a long vacation. Beaches, booze and the sun. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53158832 United States 09/01/2015 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, good call a deflationary bear market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832 Now, like we asked in 2008 on this very same forum, can the fed engineer another boom/bust cycle or will this one finally kill off the dollar? . This one kills the dollar. There is no backup plan. and what happens after massive deflation? HYPER INFLATION! Let's wait on that call, they need to make some MAJOR policy changes first. Primarily IF the dollar is dumped as a reserve currency then our total debt will become untenable. At that point I believe treasury will begin issuing state currency, interest free currency or greenbacks to meet entitlement payouts, interest on the debt and perhaps operational expenses. Then, over a decade or so they will liquidate debt in FRNs and begin printing exponentially that will in effect blow out the dollar's value, i.e. hyperinflation. Of course when the dollar is dumped from world markets all those dollars will come back to US banks, and that could cause a brief stint of hyperinflation, perhaps 50% in 2-3 years. But I still think the final death knoll of our currency won't happen for at least another 10 years. $0.02 . |
Anonymous Coward 09/01/2015 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will go on record here. Quoting: Fire Watch Long term (2+ years) projection: Best case scenario - S&P 1,400 Most likely Scenario - S&P 900 Worst case scenario - S&P 600 No fire. It'll be longer. At least five years from I've discussed with fellow investors. I just want to take a sigh of relief I got out last month. Maybe it's time for a long vacation. Beaches, booze and the sun. 2+ years...5 years is certainly possible. People need to understand that we will not wake up tomorrow with a crash and this will be over. This is a LONG term scenario... |
WhiteAngel also known at WA User ID: 70068364 United States 09/01/2015 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holy Cow Batman!!! Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Shut Up Meg User ID: 63304242 United States 09/01/2015 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to keep us busy until tomorrow's opening: An easy-to-read, succinct Timeline of Events Leading Up to the Great Crash of '29 The parallels are fascinating! -----> [link to www.huppi.com] We joke about doom here, but in all seriousness, I wish us all well; may everyone stay healthy & strong to weather the coming sh*tstorm. Last Edited by Shut Up Meg on 09/01/2015 05:52 PM |
WhiteAngel also known at WA User ID: 70068364 United States 09/01/2015 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69732513 and tomatoes IN Here is the new smilie for that :hidetomato: Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69825735 United States 09/01/2015 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, good call a deflationary bear market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832 Now, like we asked in 2008 on this very same forum, can the fed engineer another boom/bust cycle or will this one finally kill off the dollar? . This one kills the dollar. There is no backup plan. and what happens after massive deflation? HYPER INFLATION! Let's wait on that call, they need to make some MAJOR policy changes first. Primarily IF the dollar is dumped as a reserve currency then our total debt will become untenable. At that point I believe treasury will begin issuing state currency, interest free currency or greenbacks to meet entitlement payouts, interest on the debt and perhaps operational expenses. Then, over a decade or so they will liquidate debt in FRNs and begin printing exponentially that will in effect blow out the dollar's value, i.e. hyperinflation. Of course when the dollar is dumped from world markets all those dollars will come back to US banks, and that could cause a brief stint of hyperinflation, perhaps 50% in 2-3 years. But I still think the final death knoll of our currency won't happen for at least another 10 years. $0.02 . Come on. You've been here for how long ? Its the triggering of the counter party insurance/re insurance that will usher in Hyperinflation. A decade for hyperinflation ? It will be overnight. At over a 100 to 1 leverage, you have to print 99 dollars to cover one dollar in debt default, if that asset price deflates. As the asset price deflates the leverage ratio goes up. |
Anonymous Coward 09/01/2015 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will go on record here. Quoting: Fire Watch Long term (2+ years) projection: Best case scenario - S&P 1,400 Most likely Scenario - S&P 900 Worst case scenario - S&P 600 No fire. It'll be longer. At least five years from I've discussed with fellow investors. I just want to take a sigh of relief I got out last month. Maybe it's time for a long vacation. Beaches, booze and the sun. Enjoy my friend |