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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70295132 United States 09/10/2015 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? Look, if terrorists were capable of shutting it down, it would've been do so by now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70264229 Could they do it in the future? Possible, but harder by the day. Don't buy in to the 'they're waiting for the magical day and just the right time'........that's all bullshit. I think so, too, but I wonder about a massive solar flare. I still believe people should be prepared of grid failure. It only makes sense. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? Then why has the biggest newspaper in the US reporting these numbers in their report? To give people like you something to do with your free time. You must have free time, too, or you would not be on here criticizing me. What a nasty hypocrite you are. |
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Epic Beard Guy User ID: 26240425 United States 09/10/2015 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? By the way, St. Johns Wort works really well for depression and anxiety, especially in tincture form. Quoting: ^^Mountain Woman^^ Thanks! My job is in healthcare and I'm a research junky. So I'm well involved in "extraneous" healthcare models. Nature provides everything, if you know how to look. This is so true, Luxen. I have done a lot of research on herbs. I have ulcerative colitis, and at one time I could not get in to see my doc. It was a two week wait list, so I started reading a book by a Dr. Duke. He said that peppermint oil capsules had cured a woman of ulcerative colitis, so I bought some at my health food store...not had any problem since. They work. Raw goat milk cures most digestive tract problems. I suffered every night from reflux until I started drinking a glass of goat milk at night. No problems since then. I drink Nubian goat milk because it is so rich, only Nigerian goats have richer milk. Don't waste your time on anything that has been pasteurized, that destroys all the curative properties. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? By the way, St. Johns Wort works really well for depression and anxiety, especially in tincture form. Quoting: ^^Mountain Woman^^ Thanks! My job is in healthcare and I'm a research junky. So I'm well involved in "extraneous" healthcare models. Nature provides everything, if you know how to look. This is so true, Luxen. I have done a lot of research on herbs. I have ulcerative colitis, and at one time I could not get in to see my doc. It was a two week wait list, so I started reading a book by a Dr. Duke. He said that peppermint oil capsules had cured a woman of ulcerative colitis, so I bought some at my health food store...not had any problem since. They work. Raw goat milk cures most digestive tract problems. I suffered every night from reflux until I started drinking a glass of goat milk at night. No problems since then. I drink Nubian goat milk because it is so rich, only Nigerian goats have richer milk. Don't waste your time on anything that has been pasteurized, that destroys all the curative properties. Thanks, Epic! |
Luxen User ID: 68852339 United States 09/10/2015 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? To get back on target, remember this event from last year? I still believe the grid is vulnerable to both cyber and physical attacks. [link to www.foxnews.com] "Nobody gets out of here alive." Jim Morrison |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? To get back on target, remember this event from last year? Quoting: Luxen I still believe the grid is vulnerable to both cyber and physical attacks. [link to www.foxnews.com] Yes, now that you have posted it, I do remember. That is my point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70295722 United States 09/10/2015 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? I work for Mr Edison's company. It's not as vulnerable as you think. However all the infrastructure is getting very old. Probably more risk from failure of the grid because of old age than anything. No new investment to speak of in many years. Wind and Solar mostly. Any serious power generation projects have almost ceased since Obama. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? I work for Mr Edison's company. It's not as vulnerable as you think. However all the infrastructure is getting very old. Probably more risk from failure of the grid because of old age than anything. No new investment to speak of in many years. Wind and Solar mostly. Any serious power generation projects have almost ceased since Obama. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70295722 Thank you so much for inside info. I just read and posted an article that Congress will do nothing, so some States are trying to do something about the aged grid. |
hankie Everything User ID: 66849899 United States 09/10/2015 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? Backup local grid that does not use computer chips. Yes, it is possible. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70247887 United States 09/10/2015 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? I work for Mr Edison's company. It's not as vulnerable as you think. However all the infrastructure is getting very old. Probably more risk from failure of the grid because of old age than anything. No new investment to speak of in many years. Wind and Solar mostly. Any serious power generation projects have almost ceased since Obama. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70295722 Search "Metcal sniper". It's very vulnerable. I will agree that the infrastructure is old. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70247887 United States 09/10/2015 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? I work for Mr Edison's company. It's not as vulnerable as you think. However all the infrastructure is getting very old. Probably more risk from failure of the grid because of old age than anything. No new investment to speak of in many years. Wind and Solar mostly. Any serious power generation projects have almost ceased since Obama. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70295722 Search "Metcal sniper". It's very vulnerable. I will agree that the infrastructure is old. Sorry, "Metcalf sniper". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70247887 United States 09/10/2015 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? I work for Mr Edison's company. It's not as vulnerable as you think. However all the infrastructure is getting very old. Probably more risk from failure of the grid because of old age than anything. No new investment to speak of in many years. Wind and Solar mostly. Any serious power generation projects have almost ceased since Obama. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70295722 Thank you so much for inside info. I just read and posted an article that Congress will do nothing, so some States are trying to do something about the aged grid. Allot of it is privately owned. It's bad for shareholders to spend money on things like upgrades and maintenance. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? I work for Mr Edison's company. It's not as vulnerable as you think. However all the infrastructure is getting very old. Probably more risk from failure of the grid because of old age than anything. No new investment to speak of in many years. Wind and Solar mostly. Any serious power generation projects have almost ceased since Obama. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70295722 Thank you so much for inside info. I just read and posted an article that Congress will do nothing, so some States are trying to do something about the aged grid. Allot of it is privately owned. It's bad for shareholders to spend money on things like upgrades and maintenance. OK...now it is starting to make sense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70247887 United States 09/10/2015 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? I work for Mr Edison's company. It's not as vulnerable as you think. However all the infrastructure is getting very old. Probably more risk from failure of the grid because of old age than anything. No new investment to speak of in many years. Wind and Solar mostly. Any serious power generation projects have almost ceased since Obama. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70295722 Thank you so much for inside info. I just read and posted an article that Congress will do nothing, so some States are trying to do something about the aged grid. Allot of it is privately owned. It's bad for shareholders to spend money on things like upgrades and maintenance. OK...now it is starting to make sense. Search "2010 San Bruno pipeline explosion". Basically the government has to wait for a catastrophe before they have any leverage. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? ... Quoting: ^^Mountain Woman^^ Thank you so much for inside info. I just read and posted an article that Congress will do nothing, so some States are trying to do something about the aged grid. Allot of it is privately owned. It's bad for shareholders to spend money on things like upgrades and maintenance. OK...now it is starting to make sense. Search "2010 San Bruno pipeline explosion". Basically the government has to wait for a catastrophe before they have any leverage. That is the way it is in a mill my husband works in. They never do preventive maintenance...they wait till all hell breaks loose before they do anything. |
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Shut Up Meg User ID: 63304242 United States 09/10/2015 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? Mountain Woman, remember that Nat Geo docudrama from 2013, "American Blackout" ? I still have to wonder about the rise in survival and "prep" type shows on telly in the last 6 years. Is it mere fear-mongering to raise Nielson ratings, or has this been some kind of oblique "get ready to be on your own" message from tptb? [link to video.search.yahoo.com] (Movie - "American Blackout" ) Here's a doomeriffic treat I ran across whilst googling - "Secret Iranian Handbook Calls for EMP Attack on America" Iran doesn't like us very much. I wouldn't put it past them. [link to www.wnd.com] Also - our grid (& overall) infrastructure hasn't had the best funding since Oblahblah got elected - twice. Last Edited by Shut Up Meg on 09/10/2015 03:52 PM |
TwoInThePink User ID: 61991758 United States 09/10/2015 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? [link to m.sfgate.com] All I'm saying... "Wasnt" ^^^ My penis extension can save my life. What can yours do? One in the stink. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? Mountain Woman, remember that Nat Geo docudrama from 2013, "American Blackout" ? I still have to wonder about the rise in survival and "prep" type shows on telly in the last 6 years. Is it mere fear-mongering to raise Nielson ratings, or has this been some kind of oblique "get ready to be on your own" message from tptb? Quoting: Shut Up Meg [link to video.search.yahoo.com] I think after doing this thread and getting all this feedback, the problem is the wearing out of our aged grid. It could very well be that we are being warned we would be on our own soon. The wealthy have their islands and are prepared, while your regular joe is so involved in day to day survival, he will be the one you will have to help. I have always said I want to be the one to help...not the one who has to be helped. I, also believe we are at risk of a solar event that could knock this planet for a loop. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62936085 Norway 09/10/2015 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? There is a pretty easy fix for that. Quoting: G. House Seems to me to be a no-brainer. If this is any problem at all especially at nuclear plants... WHY are the systems connected to the internet in the first place? Can't hack it from the internet if it isn't hooked up to the internet. Apparently most of the people that run anything important in this country are idiots! They need to have these systems completely stand alone and heavily shielded from EMP. And I say that because anyone with half a brain knows that a Carrington-like event is going to happen sooner or later. Unless it's because they full well know that if another Carrington-like event happens we are all doomed anyway. Think about it, all the nuke plants will melt down, hundreds of Fukushima-like events. Sure, many will survive such an event short term and possibly long term. But what will fail at a relatively low threshold is the human races ability to reproduce. And just about everything else on the planet. I would say it was purposely set up that way so the plug can be pulled when wanted and blamed on someone else. I don't see any other reason for that type of vulnerability. What is gained from having all those systems online? |
Shut Up Meg User ID: 63304242 United States 09/10/2015 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? Solar surprises, yes indeed. Things like the great volcanic winter of the early 1800's, The Carrington Event of 1859 (----> [link to science.nasa.gov] ) ... nature doesn't stop doing its thing just because society has technologically evolved. An event like the one in 1859 would be devastating, given the current state of America's grid, imo. Never hurts to have a little extra water, food, batteries on hand at any rate. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? There is a pretty easy fix for that. Quoting: G. House Seems to me to be a no-brainer. If this is any problem at all especially at nuclear plants... WHY are the systems connected to the internet in the first place? Can't hack it from the internet if it isn't hooked up to the internet. Apparently most of the people that run anything important in this country are idiots! They need to have these systems completely stand alone and heavily shielded from EMP. And I say that because anyone with half a brain knows that a Carrington-like event is going to happen sooner or later. Unless it's because they full well know that if another Carrington-like event happens we are all doomed anyway. Think about it, all the nuke plants will melt down, hundreds of Fukushima-like events. Sure, many will survive such an event short term and possibly long term. But what will fail at a relatively low threshold is the human races ability to reproduce. And just about everything else on the planet. I would say it was purposely set up that way so the plug can be pulled when wanted and blamed on someone else. I don't see any other reason for that type of vulnerability. What is gained from having all those systems online? Yep. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 09/10/2015 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: BY AN ELECTRICIAN/ USA TODAY obtained news about our Nation's power grid. If this information is true, how have we avoided a blackout? Solar surprises, yes indeed. Things like the great volcanic winter of the early 1800's, The Carrington Event of 1859 (----> [link to science.nasa.gov] ) ... nature doesn't stop doing its thing just because society has technologically evolved. An event like the one in 1859 would be devastating, given the current state of America's grid, imo. Quoting: Shut Up Meg Never hurts to have a little extra water, food, batteries on hand at any rate. For certain, Meg. There will be neighbors who do not. |