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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70179828 Spain 09/12/2015 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ustream.tv] Quoting: Ice I am not a flat earth guy at all but does this live cam from ISS looks so fake Hmmm...it does look odd to me...not sure if is CGI. Does not look fake - BUT it has a serious wide FOV (probably 55º or more) which distorts the horizon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70224208 United States 09/12/2015 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it is a close cousin of the fake/hoax movement. Don't believe your eyes and ears. Don't believe anything you have ever seen or have ever been told. Quoting: Fire Watch ****1984**** I tend to agree but the two things some of the flat earthers say left me thinking there might be something to it are.... 1. The southern hemisphere flights - for example, why no or very little direct flights from buenos aires to australia or from argentina to south africa? There are flights so you're wrong. There are less across the pacific due to the distance and the requirement to use a 4 engine plane. 2. Why no full images of earth from space? (where you can see the entire globe from space? Supposedly, there's only one and it looks edited/faked by Nasa. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43080811 Only one? Thanks for proving you haven't bothered to look. And as far as being edited, that is an opinion. Everything I've read up on it would put to it being a semi-globe and not a completely flat world - kind of like one half of a ball, with the top being the north pole and the edge of the bottom half being the "antarctic". It would explain why the distances in the southern hemisphere are too far for air travel between the tips of the southern continents? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43080811 What do you think? There is absolutely NO evidence for a flat Earth. Only ignorance. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70299214 Thailand 09/12/2015 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The camera just isn't reaching a sufficient altitude. The earth is fucking huge. It's not going to look round til you're way the fuck up. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) again, here the standard answer from the men in white coats is confusing - Wikipedia says [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Kit flight tested the X-1A and X-1B, the X-4, the X-5,[2] and also flew the XF-92A.[3] In the X-1A, Kit set altitude records of over 90,000 feet[4] and was considered at the time, 1954, America’s first space pilot. He was the first to see the curvature of the earth And as I have show you AC from Thailand in the other thread that this statement is simply not possible using a relative comparison with a one meter diameter ball. A human eye cannot see curvature at 90,000 feet - period. Are you saying the globe is bigger than told, or simply they can't get high enough to show it... (which would blow cover for fake moon missions?) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14094554 United States 09/12/2015 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You fucking Idiots the bible never says or has said the earth is flat, that was some Catholic devil shit, oh and for the rest of you who don't know Catholics aren't Christians. Quoting: Daggo Catholics always were and are Christians, it just that you phony bible-worshiping New Age Born-Agains showed up in the late 60's/early 70's claiming that you know it all and that it's your way or no way. Phony, phony, phony! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70179828 Spain 09/12/2015 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The camera just isn't reaching a sufficient altitude. The earth is fucking huge. It's not going to look round til you're way the fuck up. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) again, here the standard answer from the men in white coats is confusing - Wikipedia says [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Kit flight tested the X-1A and X-1B, the X-4, the X-5,[2] and also flew the XF-92A.[3] In the X-1A, Kit set altitude records of over 90,000 feet[4] and was considered at the time, 1954, America’s first space pilot. He was the first to see the curvature of the earth And as I have show you AC from Thailand in the other thread that this statement is simply not possible using a relative comparison with a one meter diameter ball. A human eye cannot see curvature at 90,000 feet - period. Are you saying the globe is bigger than told, or simply they can't get high enough to show it... (which would blow cover for fake moon missions?) My conclusion is that all space footage is taken with fish-eye lenses or wide FOV which distorts the horizon. I also conclude that the only human eyes that can see the actual curvature of the Earth are those that have ventured 300+ kilometers into space. Us mere mortals will never see it ourselves. |
Daggo User ID: 68822618 United States 09/12/2015 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You fucking Idiots the bible never says or has said the earth is flat, that was some Catholic devil shit, oh and for the rest of you who don't know Catholics aren't Christians. Quoting: Daggo The catholic church never said that the earth is flat. Like a typical protestant liar, that you are. They didn't? then why did they Kill so many people who said it was round? Didn't you know that? Or is at something you want to forget? :Pirate Flag: 8-14-2018 The day Free Speech died in America |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67256344 United States 09/12/2015 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear flat earth trolls: Looks like you will have to go back more than 2000 to 3000 years to find other idiots that believe as you do. Read. [link to jamescungureanu.wordpress.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70224208 United States 09/12/2015 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flat Earth can't explain the following. Days with 24 hours of sun at the South pole (which DOES get tourists) Cruises that circumnavigate Antarctica and take exactly as long as they should and not 3 or more times longer. Why the sun sets later the high up you are. Go to the Burj Khalifa tower and you can see the sun set twice, first on the ground and a few minutes later at the top. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63960925 United States 09/12/2015 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You fucking Idiots the bible never says or has said the earth is flat, that was some Catholic devil shit, oh and for the rest of you who don't know Catholics aren't Christians. Quoting: Daggo Catholics always were and are Christians, it just that you phony bible-worshiping New Age Born-Agains showed up in the late 60's/early 70's claiming that you know it all and that it's your way or no way. Phony, phony, phony! Catholicism and biblical Christianity are like oil and water. Catholics are completely sold into old ancient sun God worship. You choose tradition over Gods Word!! Disgusting!! There is NO NEED FOR PREISTS anymore! Wake up!! [link to carm.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52272735 Canada 09/12/2015 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you drill a hole through the middle of the round Earth, And if the hole is wide enough for a person to stand vertical on one side of that tunnel, The person can walk to the center and keep walking to the other side, Because at this point in time the diameter of the sphere is pierced, And any spherical mass (earth) will retain its gravitational-field which is now under the Walker's feet. Gov-science can program your minds that 'mass' exerts gravity in 1 direction from surface to center but not true according this playful example because Gravitational-force exerted by mass stems from the center to the surface and why smaller objects aren't gravitation-ally attracted to larger ones and why all mass objects fall to the ground. Earth is flat and set on foundations, beneath earth's foundations is the bottomless and why there is no center because if there was a bottom there would be a center to the bottom and same physics would apply whereby Gravitational-force exerted by mass stems from the center to the surface and we'd be not grounded. The bottomless (infinity) insures that the Gravitational-force exerted by mass stemming from the center falls towards the bottomless. I learned this from the anonymous blameless one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67402685 United States 09/12/2015 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, for all the flat-earthers: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70297872 I don't want to debate whether or not it is true or any of that. There are other threads for that. All I want to know is: why? Why is there this MASSIVE deception to convince the populace the earth is round. It seems like more trouble than it's worth. It proves intelligent design and they would have to throw out their religion of science. The Earth is round and circles the Sun. There is over a 3000 year gap in this knowledge. How is it possible, that some today still think the earth is flat, and any paper illustrating the precise mathematical caculations which show that the Earth rotates and revolves around the Sun and can yet consider this heresy? The Church took close to 4822 years of proven history to concede, that yes, the Earth did indeed revolve around the Sun. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48536816 United States 09/12/2015 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think of all the possibilities that open up when you consider the globe theory. All the potential planets to inhabit, or possible alien species. This deception just clouds the mind with things that aren't of God. All of this globe theory has a lot of atheism fueling its gears |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69837388 Australia 09/12/2015 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To deny God and devalue and dispirit mankind and use it as the plank which further lies are based off of. Once you've got men indoctrinated to believe the earth is a giant ball you can sell them other lies like that sun is the center of a "solar system", there are other planets that men could travel to if they only get the right technology, earth is no longer unique because their are other planets, man is no longer unique because these so called planets are likely inhibited by something called "aliens". Earth and man no longer become the center of cosmology and can be devalued to the point where gullible men can be convinced of such stupidity like that they they are descended from slime and soup from million of years ago. All lies to degrade humanity. This in turn justifies the elites psychotic eugenics and holocaust based initiatives, because what does it matter, we are all just monkeys come from slime. Earth isn't unique, man isn't special so just kill the cattle. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69807970 United States 09/12/2015 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flat Earth can't explain the following. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70224208 Days with 24 hours of sun at the South pole (which DOES get tourists) Cruises that circumnavigate Antarctica and take exactly as long as they should and not 3 or more times longer. Why the sun sets later the high up you are. Go to the Burj Khalifa tower and you can see the sun set twice, first on the ground and a few minutes later at the top. Antarctica creates the ocean currents of the world what controls our weather - ocean currents all those currents the motor - Antarctica there is a 360 degree whirl around Antarctica that never stops - flat earth can't produce ocean currents |
Daggo User ID: 68822618 United States 09/12/2015 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You fucking Idiots the bible never says or has said the earth is flat, that was some Catholic devil shit, oh and for the rest of you who don't know Catholics aren't Christians. Quoting: Daggo Catholics always were and are Christians, it just that you phony bible-worshiping New Age Born-Agains showed up in the late 60's/early 70's claiming that you know it all and that it's your way or no way. Phony, phony, phony! No mister smarty pants Catholics are just the new form of the Roman Army, see the Romans realized they could still have people to fight for them and take over the world at no cost to them, instead tHey get payed by the guys fighting for them. Anyone with a few brain cells and reading the bible can see the Catholics only pay lip service to the Bible, then do want then do as they please, for instance you can do anything you want tell a priest and he absolves you of your sins, lol bible clearly says that's a thing only God can do. Do some real reading and see all the thing's Catholics have been behind an tell me if you think it even sounds remotely Christian. If you still do then you know nothing about what being a REAL Christian is. Last Edited by Daggo on 09/12/2015 04:06 PM :Pirate Flag: 8-14-2018 The day Free Speech died in America |
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NibiruX User ID: 69953222 United States 09/12/2015 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ustream.tv] Quoting: Ice I am not a flat earth guy at all but does this live cam from ISS looks so fake Hmmm...it does look odd to me...not sure if is CGI. Does not look fake - BUT it has a serious wide FOV (probably 55º or more) which distorts the horizon. Really...have you ever been up in space to determine what is fake or not? NibiruX |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69807970 United States 09/12/2015 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Antarctic Circumpolar Current (ACC) is the most important current in the Southern Ocean, and the only current that flows completely around the globe. The ACC, as it encircles the Antarctic continent, flows eastward through the southern portions of the Atlantic, Indian, and Pacific Oceans. Edmond Halley, the British astronomer, discovered the ACC while surveying the region during the 1699-1700 HMS Paramore expedition. Later, the famous mariners James Cook in 1772-1775, Thaddeus Bellingshausen (Russia) in 1819-1821, and James Clark Ross in 1839-1843 described the Antarctic Circumpolar Current in their journals. Cook was the first person to use the term, Southern Ocean, to describe this area. Other notable expeditions were made by Sir Drake, who reached the tip of South America in 1578, Abel Tasman, who sailed south from Australia into the Southern Ocean in 1642, James Weddell in 1823, and by the HMS Challenger in 1873-74 (Deacon, 1984) [link to oceancurrents.rsmas.miami.edu] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51419028 United States 09/12/2015 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the main problem is that people don't really have an understanding of gravity. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) Most people either think "what goes up comes down" or "objects of greater mass attract objects of smaller mass" but these are just effects of gravity. "Gravity" is the bending of space/time caused by an object of large mass. Anything of smaller mass that gets caught in this warped fabric is "pulled" toward the larger object. Like if we were to hold a table cloth at the corners and drop a bowling ball in the center of it...then drop some pool balls in. No no no no LOL Nothing gets bent - IT IS AS IF it bent. For the purpose of illustration. Space/time bends. They can "see it". It's been recorded. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65325458 United Kingdom 09/12/2015 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it is a close cousin of the fake/hoax movement. Don't believe your eyes and ears. Don't believe anything you have ever seen or have ever been told. Quoting: Fire Watch ****1984**** I tend to agree but the two things some of the flat earthers say left me thinking there might be something to it are.... 1. The southern hemisphere flights - for example, why no or very little direct flights from buenos aires to australia or from argentina to south africa? There are flights so you're wrong. There are less across the pacific due to the distance and the requirement to use a 4 engine plane. 2. Why no full images of earth from space? (where you can see the entire globe from space? Supposedly, there's only one and it looks edited/faked by Nasa. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43080811 Only one? Thanks for proving you haven't bothered to look. And as far as being edited, that is an opinion. Everything I've read up on it would put to it being a semi-globe and not a completely flat world - kind of like one half of a ball, with the top being the north pole and the edge of the bottom half being the "antarctic". It would explain why the distances in the southern hemisphere are too far for air travel between the tips of the southern continents? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43080811 What do you think? There is absolutely NO evidence for a flat Earth. Only ignorance. Just calling out your total bullshit. The flights you talk about?? What flights. I have looked and try to book. You can't. South American to oz. you can't. You go to north America first. The flights that don't stop the miles are 7000+ what's the C of the earth?? 7000+ it doesn't add up!! Look up the pilots coming out saying it's flat. Crazy stuff. NASA still only have one pics. That's fact from NASA. They just put two more out a couple months ago becuase people are waking up. Just saying the maths is saying the earth is flat the pictures are saying the earth is flat just the stupid people don't look into it and go by what we are told. Because they always tell us the turth lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39518785 United States 09/12/2015 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the main problem is that people don't really have an understanding of gravity. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) Most people either think "what goes up comes down" or "objects of greater mass attract objects of smaller mass" but these are just effects of gravity. "Gravity" is the bending of space/time caused by an object of large mass. Anything of smaller mass that gets caught in this warped fabric is "pulled" toward the larger object. Like if we were to hold a table cloth at the corners and drop a bowling ball in the center of it...then drop some pool balls in. No no no no LOL Nothing gets bent - IT IS AS IF it bent. For the purpose of illustration. Space/time bends. They can "see it". It's been recorded. and keep in mind that all of their measuring equipment is bent too, so they really aren't getting an accurate enough measurement of the true magnitude of the bend. so all of their calculations are way off. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69903921 Costa Rica 09/12/2015 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, for all the flat-earthers: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70297872 I don't want to debate whether or not it is true or any of that. There are other threads for that. All I want to know is: why? Why is there this MASSIVE deception to convince the populace the earth is round. It seems like more trouble than it's worth. It proves intelligent design and they would have to throw out their religion of science. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47101202 Netherlands 09/12/2015 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be fair, any Youtube video i watch where a private entity (person) sends a camera to space, it clearly shows that the earth is indeed flat and that because of a distortion of the lens, it looks round at times when the camera is moving about. Quoting: ajnin The camera just isn't reaching a sufficient altitude. The earth is fucking huge. It's not going to look round til you're way the fuck up. I get that, but look at this video as an example: You can clearly see the distortion I've mentioned. It's all over, even when it goes full 360. What I'm trying to say is that the distortion, the way your eyes works and a preconceived mind creates the illusion that it's round. Nice video op. looks like the sun isnt millions of miles away either. Seema pretty close actually |
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