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Is Gravity a Theory or a Law?

 
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Our entire reality is a theory because it's all an illusion. Without you, nothing exists.

Science knows very little and of that little...it's all wrong.
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Science is more than just the physical world our hair line senses pick up. There's so much more out there, but we're handicapped by mind leeches who fog out minds & limit our senses. Basically, when we understand the hidden sciences in concert with spiritual wisdom, then we're really.. discovering more about God & ourselves.
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a made up nonsense with no proof of existence - that, unfortunately, is sciences conclusion [proof of existence]

there are no equations for gravity - its not what is going on

fractalised tesseractal inception is as close as I can locate via the fantastic Nassim Haramein on why gravity is seen as it is - Newton obviously didn't have the access to corroborate information how we can today so individual people today can correlate lots more information on a particular subject than 16th century geniuses

the bigger the true picture the closer to the truth you will unravel - they just don't usually tell us commoners when things change views....

gravity was needed to explain the apparent knowledge of the 'times' - its not what is happening - think singularity
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It is a concept...and like electricity, no one knows what it is.
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exactly
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So we all agree that NASA is the go-to for answers about space. Masons and Nazis can be totally trusted for truthful answers. NOT!
Masons and Nazis are the very ones who concoct all this nonsense and fairy tales. Of course, the ISS cannot degrade it's "orbit" and has no need for thrusters because it has wires holding it up in place and there are no cameras on the thousands of satellites or moon missions.
C'mon guys, there is not one real photograph of the earth from space! The damn earth could be a cube for all we know.
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it's only a suggestion..
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And this is why we can't have nice things.
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Re: Is Gravity a Theory or a Law?
The invisible magical gravity force has never been detected or measured in the lab, like unicorns.
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Untrue. naughty
Actually you can measure it yourself.

Get a digital scale that goes out to at least 6 decimal places.
Find a VERY tall building.
Measure the weight of a given object at ground level in front of the building on your digital scale.
THEN....go to the top of the building (ie Empire State building, Freedom Tower, Petronas towers etc etc)....and then measure the weight of the object again.
It will weight less due to the lesser gravity at that height above the Earth.

Gravity has LESS pull the further you are from the surface of the Earth.
Your object will show LESS WEIGHT at the top of the building....than at the bottom.
It won't be much...but it will be there.

:quantum1_kitty:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


retard - air pressure - think barometer moron - stop making shit up like you know its fact

again 'downforce pressure not pull' proved by lots of science for decades - no-one has ever detected gravity with a measuring device that could be repeated - not even NASA stupid
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Up until the middle ages, since the beginning of time, the earth was considered by everyone to be flat.
For just a few hundred years has the ball or globe earth theory been promoted.
As for satellites, Arthur C. Clarke, a science fiction writer and a mason came up with that idea. Some believers insist that they can see the satellites with their naked eyes at night. According to the theory, these satellites are 22,300 mile up in what is coined geosynchronous orbit. You would not be able to see the little satellites even with the very best telescopes.
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Aristotle thought the earth was round + alexander
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Things on earth are pushed down by water pressure. Think humidity. Do you weigh less under water? Can water crush you at depth? Is the air filled with water?
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So we all agree that NASA is the go-to for answers about space. Masons and Nazis can be totally trusted for truthful answers. NOT!
Masons and Nazis are the very ones who concoct all this nonsense and fairy tales. Of course, the ISS cannot degrade it's "orbit" and has no need for thrusters because it has wires holding it up in place and there are no cameras on the thousands of satellites or moon missions.
C'mon guys, there is not one real photograph of the earth from space! The damn earth could be a cube for all we know.
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everything can be "manufactured", but we do have video of the astronauts in near-earth orbit using special lenses to make it look like they were near the moon… in this footage, the earth is round…all they did is shrink it down in real time so it looks like they got through the van allen belts
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Re: Is Gravity a Theory or a Law?
Now let us talk about my user name for this thread...Heavy.

If there was a thingy called Gravity that pulls matter toward it with an almighty irresistible force from the center of a ball earth, can I still go pan for gold in a creek? That heavy gold should over the eons be near the center of the ball earth.
How about other HEAVY materials like the heaviest ones on the table of elements. Should they not be concentrated way down toward the center of the globe? Many solid gold nuggets have been found just laying on the top of the ground. Maybe this Gravity thingy does not like HEAVY objects.
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if gravity was the pulling force the center would be hollow and the heaviest stuff would be in the middle of the shell
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A book published in Germany in the late 1980s (title and author momentarily lost) made two impressions on me:

1. Gravity is a pushing force, fed by continuous huge explosions of fare away galaxies and solar systems, gluing matter to the surface of all celestial bodies, this force being a constant one, due to the mix of the uninterrupted flow of energy from these ocurences

and

2. earth is much much older than stated by general assumptions and mankind older, too, destroyed about each 220.000 years due to extremely huge shock waves produced by the destruction of extremely huge galaxies.These shock waves travel space without loss of power and will hit with brute force only in small sections. When they reach our solar system homestead these forces may/will topple our planet earth with such a force, that the surface of earth will surf since it is floating on the not so hardened liquid earth core a few hundred miles below us, and such surfing will/may destroy structure of civilization and life again and again.

One possible prove are long extinct animals, that have been found in permafrost areas, their stomachs filled with fresh grass or fish. Only a sudden jolt of the planet may cause an immediate freezing.

I do not remember how the time span between those arriving shock waves had been calculated, but i feel certainty about being pressed towards earth rather than being pulled onto earth.
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Re: Is Gravity a Theory or a Law?
The invisible magical gravity force has never been detected or measured in the lab, like unicorns.
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Untrue. naughty
Actually you can measure it yourself.

Get a digital scale that goes out to at least 6 decimal places.
Find a VERY tall building.
Measure the weight of a given object at ground level in front of the building on your digital scale.
THEN....go to the top of the building (ie Empire State building, Freedom Tower, Petronas towers etc etc)....and then measure the weight of the object again.
It will weigh less due to the lesser gravity at that height above the Earth.

Gravity has LESS pull the further you are from the surface of the Earth.
Your object will show LESS WEIGHT at the top of the building....than at the bottom.
It won't be much...but it will be there.

quantum1_kitty
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


retard - air pressure - think barometer moron - stop making shit up like you know its fact

again 'downforce pressure not pull' proved by lots of science for decades - no-one has ever detected gravity with a measuring device that could be repeated - not even NASA stupid
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Air pressure has no effect on gravity.
Physics....


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Re: Is Gravity a Theory or a Law?
Gravitational force = (G * m1 * m2) / (d2)
where G is the gravitational constant, m1 and m2 are the masses of the two objects for which you are calculating the force, and d is the distance between the centers of gravity of the two masses.
G has the value of 6.67 x 10E-8 dyne * cm2/gm2. So if you put two 1-gram objects 1 centimeter apart from one another, they will attract each other with the force of 6.67 x 10E-8 dyne. A dyne is equal to about 0.001 gram weight, meaning that if you have a dyne of force available, it can lift 0.001 grams in Earth's gravitational field. So 6.67 x 10E-8 dyne is a miniscule force.
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Re: Is Gravity a Theory or a Law?
LAW, because it's effects on the world around you are irrefutable.

THEORY, because the latest string of squiggly symbols we use to describe it are not conclusive.

Feynman said it best. Theories are not proven right, they are insofar NOT proven wrong.
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When you deal with massive bodies like the Earth, however, which has a mass of 6E+24 kilograms (see How much does planet Earth weigh?), it adds up to a rather powerful gravitational force. That's why you're not floating around in space right now.
The force of gravity acting on an object is also that object's weight. When you step on a scale, the scale reads how much gravity is acting on your body. The formula to determine weight is [source: Kurtus]:
weight = m * g
where m is an object's mass, and g is the acceleration due to gravity. Acceleration due to gravity on Earth, is 9.8 m/s² -- it never changes, regardless of an object's mass. That's why if you were to drop a pebble, a book and a couch off a roof, they'd hit the ground at the same time.
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Re: Is Gravity a Theory or a Law?
The invisible magical gravity force has never been detected or measured in the lab, like unicorns.
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Untrue. naughty
Actually you can measure it yourself.

Get a digital scale that goes out to at least 6 decimal places.
Find a VERY tall building.
Measure the weight of a given object at ground level in front of the building on your digital scale.
THEN....go to the top of the building (ie Empire State building, Freedom Tower, Petronas towers etc etc)....and then measure the weight of the object again.
It will weigh less due to the lesser gravity at that height above the Earth.

Gravity has LESS pull the further you are from the surface of the Earth.
Your object will show LESS WEIGHT at the top of the building....than at the bottom.
It won't be much...but it will be there.

:quantum1_kitty:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


retard - air pressure - think barometer moron - stop making shit up like you know its fact

again 'downforce pressure not pull' proved by lots of science for decades - no-one has ever detected gravity with a measuring device that could be repeated - not even NASA stupid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70321856


Air pressure has no effect on gravity.
Physics....


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you mong - your 'test' is 'air pressure/atmospheric pressure' and NOT GRAVITY FOOL

you don't fail you are just a mongoloided retardius stupido
simpleton
take your barbytoy physics and stfu retard
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Up until the middle ages, since the beginning of time, the earth was considered by everyone to be flat.
For just a few hundred years has the ball or globe earth theory been promoted.
 Quoting: Heavy 69985337

Wrong. The Greeks proved the world was round over 2,000 years ago.

As for satellites, Arthur C. Clarke, a science fiction writer and a mason came up with that idea.
 Quoting: Heavy 69985337

Also wrong. Arthur C. Clarke came up with the idea of a geosynchronus satellite but not satellites in general.

Some believers insist that they can see the satellites with their naked eyes at night. According to the theory, these satellites are 22,300 mile up in what is coined geosynchronous orbit. You would not be able to see the little satellites even with the very best telescopes.
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Not all satellites are that high and yes you can see quite a few of them.
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A book published in Germany in the late 1980s (title and author momentarily lost) made two impressions on me:

1. Gravity is a pushing force, fed by continuous huge explosions of fare away galaxies and solar systems, gluing matter to the surface of all celestial bodies, this force being a constant one, due to the mix of the uninterrupted flow of energy from these ocurences

and

2. earth is much much older than stated by general assumptions and mankind older, too, destroyed about each 220.000 years due to extremely huge shock waves produced by the destruction of extremely huge galaxies.These shock waves travel space without loss of power and will hit with brute force only in small sections. When they reach our solar system homestead these forces may/will topple our planet earth with such a force, that the surface of earth will surf since it is floating on the not so hardened liquid earth core a few hundred miles below us, and such surfing will/may destroy structure of civilization and life again and again.

One possible prove are long extinct animals, that have been found in permafrost areas, their stomachs filled with fresh grass or fish. Only a sudden jolt of the planet may cause an immediate freezing.

I do not remember how the time span between those arriving shock waves had been calculated, but i feel certainty about being pressed towards earth rather than being pulled onto earth.
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Ok then wouldnt the opposite side of earth be violently thrown off it then? Or is there a force of exact equal proportion occuring from the other side if universe
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Reply a Law is a natural event that happens - such as the law of gravity. Mass attracts mass. This has never not been seen in the universe - it always happens - so it is a law.

Same with conservation of momentum - it always happens in nature.

A Theory is an attempted explanation of the laws of nature.

and to go further a hypothesis is an educated guess of how these laws may be explained. Once a hypothesis has been tested and found to explain what we have it becomes a theory.

Theories can and will change and hypotheses are currently being tested.
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Just because You call the Theory of Gravity a Law does not make it so. Perhaps a chicken is also a duck.
Mass does NOT attract mass. Take two massive magnets and try to push them together at the same polarity...duh.
A theory is simply a guess or an opinion.
A law is universal.

Glad I could help.
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All you've proven with your lame example is that magnetism can be stronger than gravity. Welcome to the real world for discovering something everyone else already knows. Mass does attract mass and it has been proven and measured.
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Untrue. naughty
Actually you can measure it yourself.

Get a digital scale that goes out to at least 6 decimal places.
Find a VERY tall building.
Measure the weight of a given object at ground level in front of the building on your digital scale.
THEN....go to the top of the building (ie Empire State building, Freedom Tower, Petronas towers etc etc)....and then measure the weight of the object again.
It will weigh less due to the lesser gravity at that height above the Earth.

Gravity has LESS pull the further you are from the surface of the Earth.
Your object will show LESS WEIGHT at the top of the building....than at the bottom.
It won't be much...but it will be there.

quantum1_kitty
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


retard - air pressure - think barometer moron - stop making shit up like you know its fact

again 'downforce pressure not pull' proved by lots of science for decades - no-one has ever detected gravity with a measuring device that could be repeated - not even NASA stupid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70321856


Air pressure has no effect on gravity.
Physics....


einfail
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you mong - your 'test' is 'air pressure/atmospheric pressure' and NOT GRAVITY FOOL

you don't fail you are just a mongoloided retardius stupido
simpleton
take your barbytoy physics and stfu retard
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Dude....were you one of the stoners sitting in back of the class with
sunglasses on, chair leaning against the wall, during high school physics class?

Here.....since you were STONED at the time....

[link to books.google.com (secure)]

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which falls first, a bowling ball a horizontally fired bullet or a pebble?
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According to all the fictional novels and movies, there is no gravity in space. Like the movie Gravity with Sandra Bullock, you just float around in your spacesuit until you run out of air or get into a space capsule. I guess gravity likes space capsules because it pulls the damn thing straight down to earth in a cascade of sparks. The imaginary huge gravitational pull of the great big earth does not pull a tiny human down to earth but will suck down a space capsule right away.
But wait, the wise scientists say that the gravity pull of the moon on the water molecules creates the tides. Wow, you can make up all kinds of cool shit with space and gravity and all you gotta do is just believe. To think that folks make fun of flat earthers. That is a hell of a lot easier to grasp than this other nonsense.
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And the troll proves he doesn't understand how orbits work.
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Up until the middle ages, since the beginning of time, the earth was considered by everyone to be flat.
For just a few hundred years has the ball or globe earth theory been promoted.
 Quoting: Heavy 69985337

Wrong. The Greeks proved the world was round over 2,000 years ago.

As for satellites, Arthur C. Clarke, a science fiction writer and a mason came up with that idea.
 Quoting: Heavy 69985337

Also wrong. Arthur C. Clarke came up with the idea of a geosynchronus satellite but not satellites in general.

Some believers insist that they can see the satellites with their naked eyes at night. According to the theory, these satellites are 22,300 mile up in what is coined geosynchronous orbit. You would not be able to see the little satellites even with the very best telescopes.
 Quoting: Heavy 69985337

Not all satellites are that high and yes you can see quite a few of them.
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its you that is wrong twice
nearest satellite to earth is about 35,000 miles and apparently the furthest deviates between 45-55,000 miles
no you cannot see them and its ridiculous for you to inply you can - the ISS deviates between 250 and 400miles - its the size of a frikken small factory and you can only just see that as a tiny speck - Arthur C Clark the author actually envisioned sattellites 'and putting them into geocentric orbit

so you got a half of one point correct - one sixth mmmm guess I wont be following you if the shtf!

you have probably been reading a ten year old trivial persuit - update yourself...
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According to all the fictional novels and movies, there is no gravity in space. Like the movie Gravity with Sandra Bullock, you just float around in your spacesuit until you run out of air or get into a space capsule. I guess gravity likes space capsules because it pulls the damn thing straight down to earth in a cascade of sparks. The imaginary huge gravitational pull of the great big earth does not pull a tiny human down to earth but will suck down a space capsule right away.
But wait, the wise scientists say that the gravity pull of the moon on the water molecules creates the tides. Wow, you can make up all kinds of cool shit with space and gravity and all you gotta do is just believe. To think that folks make fun of flat earthers. That is a hell of a lot easier to grasp than this other nonsense.
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And the troll proves he doesn't understand how orbits work.
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Well, since non of you do i will explain it. There is gravity in space , and objects in orbit are held in orbit by gravity.

A stable orbit is a balance between centripetal forces and gravity. The further one is from a planet, the less velocity is required to maintain that orbit, because the force of gravity decreases with distance.
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My ass is stuck to my chair right now. That's fn gravity. Laws can be broken said my hoodlum friend so gravity must be a theory.
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man made laws can b broken- gravity IS a law set by the creator like the hoodlum friend said. what goes up must come down- on this planet anyways. my opinion anyways. opinions r like bung holes----> u kno the rest
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retard - air pressure - think barometer moron - stop making shit up like you know its fact

again 'downforce pressure not pull' proved by lots of science for decades - no-one has ever detected gravity with a measuring device that could be repeated - not even NASA stupid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70321856


Air pressure has no effect on gravity.
Physics....


:einfail:
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you mong - your 'test' is 'air pressure/atmospheric pressure' and NOT GRAVITY FOOL

you don't fail you are just a mongoloided retardius stupido
simpleton
take your barbytoy physics and stfu retard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70321856


Dude....were you one of the stoners sitting in back of the class with
sunglasses on, chair leaning against the wall, during high school physics class?

Here.....since you were STONED at the time....

[link to books.google.com (secure)]

:fulltard:
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is that your best answer retard?
what about the points I posted?
hmm you couldn't respond because you are to stupid to amalgamate words into sentences that produce sense to what you are saying

well mongo - you can bang an answer back defending you retarded stupidity - I'll wait while you surf wikipedo to educate yourself - don't be to long mongo I'm all excited at retarding a retard further

BTW

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Reply a Law is a natural event that happens - such as the law of gravity. Mass attracts mass. This has never not been seen in the universe - it always happens - so it is a law.

Same with conservation of momentum - it always happens in nature.

A Theory is an attempted explanation of the laws of nature.

and to go further a hypothesis is an educated guess of how these laws may be explained. Once a hypothesis has been tested and found to explain what we have it becomes a theory.

Theories can and will change and hypotheses are currently being tested.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70234530


Just because You call the Theory of Gravity a Law does not make it so. Perhaps a chicken is also a duck.
Mass does NOT attract mass. Take two massive magnets and try to push them together at the same polarity...duh.
A theory is simply a guess or an opinion.
A law is universal.

Glad I could help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69985337

All you've proven with your lame example is that magnetism can be stronger than gravity. Welcome to the real world for discovering something everyone else already knows. Mass does attract mass and it has been proven and measured.
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Yes,yes it does. And this force can be called gravity, magnetism,electrostatic, or nuclear forces. They are all the same thing.
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There are quite a few examples of gravity being nullified by will alone. As such what is gravity? Everything is made from light, photons, and photons have no weight, but can react like they do sometimes. Humans emit photons from their eyes and their wrists, what you do with them is up to you. There really is no theory of gravity, a big obama, zero.
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Air pressure has no effect on gravity.
Physics....


einfail
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you mong - your 'test' is 'air pressure/atmospheric pressure' and NOT GRAVITY FOOL

you don't fail you are just a mongoloided retardius stupido
simpleton
take your barbytoy physics and stfu retard
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70321856


Dude....were you one of the stoners sitting in back of the class with
sunglasses on, chair leaning against the wall, during high school physics class?

Here.....since you were STONED at the time....

[link to books.google.com (secure)]

fulltard
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is that your best answer retard?
what about the points I posted?
hmm you couldn't respond because you are to stupid to amalgamate words into sentences that produce sense to what you are saying

well mongo - you can bang an answer back defending you retarded stupidity - I'll wait while you surf wikipedo to educate yourself - don't be to long mongo I'm all excited at retarding a retard further

BTW

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cruise

Clearly, you can lead a retarded horse to water....but you can't make him drink.
That was a college Physics book using much the same example I gave.

Ignorance can be cured....stupid is forever.
Congrats.

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So, we all agree that Gravity is a Theory.
Now, why give the flat earth Theory such a hard time by invoking another Theory to try to disprove it?
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ouch...
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