According to Jesus... you must NOT believe in Jesus.

In the Gospel of Judas, Jesus tells Judas that he will become the 13th..(Jesus was the 13th). So the betrayer becomes The Christ??

hey VIP. I'm drinking. I'm Jesus. You're pissing me off. Go cry in a corner.

I don't know.
its all a roman psyop.

they wrote all the gospels as a massive info war psyop attempt.

later they found it necessary to canonize the NT as the various gospels contradicted each other so badly.

there is no point in trying to figure out what jesus meant or not, its all a lie anyway.

OP is just pointing out how stupid jesus is, or how stupid the writers of the NT were.

how do you support you messianic siczo knowing jesus should be in heaven until the last day when he comes back in clouds with his saints?

it seems the jesus character is not to be reincarnated.

HEY OP
I have an idea...fuck off

what about in matthew when it says in the regeneration of the son of man? and how about the last verse in the gospel of matthew. get back to me on that.

I like it grumpier! How you doing? smoking weed in the netherlands?

you are a psyop dreamily. what's up with your hate for me (jesus) serioously you think i should be a warrior or something?

you (I guess) a responsible for the biggest lie in human history, which has caused many sufferings for my people.

what about the last passage of matthew?

I am with you till the end of the age?

as in I am in heaven protecting you.
not on earth.

its hard reconciling with this... I know.

that is your interpretation. how do you know it means that. and not literally?

it means that literally, his literally with them until the end of the age.
only he is with them from his place in heaven.

I know it cant mean he is on earth because the NT says that after meeting paul on the road to damascuss he flew back to heaven where he is to be until he comes back on the cloud with his saints.

so... you are not jesus.

Take stuff out of context much?

Yes in Holland still.
Very seldom smoked weed, it ruins my short time memory and I don't want that.

how is that out of context.

in context it says:
what the Pharisees SAY is good and you MUST do what they say.

but what the Pharisees DO is bad since what they do, is not in accordance to what they preach.

so... the Pharisees - of Sages of blessed memory SAY jesus is a false prophet and deceiver, and he must be rejected.

you must reject jesus according to jesus.

mindfuck huh?

Fuck off shill, if Jesus isn't real then your petty tribal god certainly isn't.

proving most believers in jesus are pagan in heart.

the NT cant stand without the OT.
but the OT can stand without the NT.

aren't you waiting for your idol's supposed second coming as well?

good luck with that.


but as a Jesuit mason... you don't really believe in jesus do you?

:gfr1qaz:

you were brought up in the religion rome/edom created.

every single one?

how come you are waiting for him to come back? for what purpose?

to fulfill the real messianic prophecies he didn't fulfill the first time.

as a mod here, I bet you are affiliated with various Vatican orders, such as masonry and jesuism therefore it is safe to assume that you don't believe in jesus.

you are just paying your lip service infornt of the Christian audience here.

bring it on chippy.

mmm the real jesus was actually a one yeshua born to a roman soldier named pantera who was Egyptian in origin (therefore not from the seed of David)

he felt confused by his Egyptian heritage so he went Egypt to study at the Egyptian mystery schools, he came back and blasphemed against G-d, and claimed to be a god himself.

we stoned him to death.

later on the romans picked upon the story and fabricated the NT.

which is easily rebuked by the OT.

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i know you are not wise, if you were, you would take an account made by the people who were actually there, as reliable.

but you choose to take the account of some psyop leaflets written decades after the event heavily edited by the church.

also, if you don't want to accept the real history of the matter.
it is still possible to rebuke Christianity using what is written in the NT

i read enough of what i need to see

chip has it right

The Jesuit order has this one down pat.

keep scrolling down.

celsus took his information from the Talmud.
written by people who lived in Judea at time of jesus.
they were there, they saw what happened.

the writers of the NT were not there. the writers of the NT wrote the NT under instructions from rome decades after the event.

you ignore the fact that article provides a quote of a passage from the Talmud written by first hand eye witnesses living in Judea at the time of Jerusalem.
stating who jesus really is.

now, since you don't want to accept that info - i say you are stupid, because you rather put your faith on some contradictory text written decades after the event by unknown authors, a text heavily edited by the church over the course of a thousand years.

if you don't want to accept that info, I would be happy to use your NT against you to rebuke jesus.

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