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I don't get what Saddam did.
We supported him 100% when Reagan
was president.
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I still don't get what Assad did.
 Quoting: Nerve03


suppresses all his people & wont let them live a free life where they have a say in their daily lives

and also he murdered thousands with bombs. little kids and everything. just pure scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


Did that happen before or after the free syrian army stuff?
 Quoting: Nerve03


it happened before but it got worse when the syrian people saw other countries around them get their way over their own dictating leaders --- so the syrian tried also --- he went ballistic & killed thousands within just weeks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


bsflag
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I just saw a tweet, a quarter million Chinese troops are on their way to Syria..
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maybe they just ordered a quarter million Chinese chicken balls with pineapple sauce for lunch
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[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Russian combat operations on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad are likely to begin “soon,” three U.S. officials told The Daily Beast. And Russian drone flights to spot targets for potential airstrikes are already underway.
That concession by U.S. officials of growing Russian influence marks a shift from previous statements by officials who said they weren’t sure whether Russia intended to use force in Syria and enter into the country’s long and brutal civil war. There already are early signs that Russia plans to target moderate forces that threaten the Assad regime, not the self-proclaimed Islamic State, which has been the focus of a year-long U.S.-led air campaign.

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Isis is driving the world ever closer together into a new order. as the authors wrote it.
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I just saw a tweet, a quarter million Chinese troops are on their way to Syria..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69197100


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I don't get what Saddam did.
We supported him 100% when Reagan
was president.
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We support them all...until we don't ;)
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Russian combat operations on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad are likely to begin “soon,” three U.S. officials told The Daily Beast. And Russian drone flights to spot targets for potential airstrikes are already underway.
That concession by U.S. officials of growing Russian influence marks a shift from previous statements by officials who said they weren’t sure whether Russia intended to use force in Syria and enter into the country’s long and brutal civil war. There already are early signs that Russia plans to target moderate forces that threaten the Assad regime, not the self-proclaimed Islamic State, which has been the focus of a year-long U.S.-led air campaign.

Moran link
 Quoting: General Drunken Stumblefuck

What the hell is this?

Now, the US is okay with it because Russia isn't targeting the US' targets (soldiers)?

US was concerned Russia would get in on the civil struggles, but isn't that EXACTLY what is said here?

Something is up, this defies logic to me.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Easy. Two sided conflict. The US coalition will take out ISIL, Russia is going to keep the pressure off Assad and we'll slowly meet in the middle to handle ISIS. The free syrian army is just going to get fucked in the process.

I mean we, the US is getting ready to set up on the Iraq-Syrian border again. The Kurds will come to us for safety again and the ISIS forces in Iraq will get squeezed between the Iraq-Iran coalition/or Iron Curtain, see post on page 1 of this thread.

Hopefully the mess will be mopped up with minimal work from all the factions involved.

I used to think some of you GLPers were smarter than this, but I guess not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70050341

You seem to think ISIL and ISIS are separate entities.
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Ok, went to Twatter lol and found this article referenced a lot:

[link to blogs.timesofisrael.com]

"Turkey-backed Chinese Uyghur terrorists are gaining a stronghold in Syria from which to launch attacks on China.
A new article reported that 3,500 Uyghurs are settling in a village near Jisr-al Shagour that was just taken from Assad, close to the stronghold of Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP) that is in the Turkey-backed Army of Conquest. They are allegedly under the supervision of Turkish intelligence that has been accused of supplying fake passports to recruit Chinese Uyghurs to wage jihad in Syria.
Now that TIP has established a base in Syria and is expanding its presence and recruitment courtesy of its Turkish sponsors, China will have to follow through with its 2013 recommendation “Take fight to ETIM before threat grows” and deploy troops to Syria."

50/50 rule

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Man... what a clusterfuck.

Take a look at this map of Syria and imagine you are now in charge of fixing this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Coppercoal


easy, level damascus out and move up from there.
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suppresses all his people & wont let them live a free life where they have a say in their daily lives

and also he murdered thousands with bombs. little kids and everything. just pure scum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


Did that happen before or after the free syrian army stuff?
 Quoting: Nerve03


it happened before but it got worse when the syrian people saw other countries around them get their way over their own dictating leaders --- so the syrian tried also --- he went ballistic & killed thousands within just weeks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


bsflag
 Quoting: HoodRats


oh yes yes its all lies


assad is a great guy who ran a free country & he never killed anyone ever


DOrolleyes
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That concession by U.S. officials of growing Russian influence marks a shift from previous statements by officials who said they weren’t sure whether Russia intended to use force in Syria and enter into the country’s long and brutal civil war. 'Civil War ' lied lier pants on fire.

'There already are early signs that Russia plans to target moderate forces that threaten the Assad regime, not the self-proclaimed Islamic State, which has been the focus of a year-long U.S.-led air campaign. Another bullshit lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48203334


We conceded to the Iran deal as well for this all to work right. We the US are taking a huge gamble in this game and it could come back to bite us in the ass.
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[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Russian combat operations on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad are likely to begin “soon,” three U.S. officials told The Daily Beast. And Russian drone flights to spot targets for potential airstrikes are already underway.
That concession by U.S. officials of growing Russian influence marks a shift from previous statements by officials who said they weren’t sure whether Russia intended to use force in Syria and enter into the country’s long and brutal civil war. There already are early signs that Russia plans to target moderate forces that threaten the Assad regime, not the self-proclaimed Islamic State, which has been the focus of a year-long U.S.-led air campaign.

Moran link
 Quoting: General Drunken Stumblefuck


thats because the free syrian army has been the ones pressing on assad

not ISIS

ISIS has been staying in the background harassing & killing & raping innocent people that wont fight back.
ISIS wont go after any military forces. thats why they arent harassing assads forces.

Putin wants to help his partner in crime "assad" therefore they will go after the free syrian army who are the ones who've been attacking assads forces
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


Get your no knowing ass out of here.
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[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Russian combat operations on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad are likely to begin “soon,” three U.S. officials told The Daily Beast. And Russian drone flights to spot targets for potential airstrikes are already underway.
That concession by U.S. officials of growing Russian influence marks a shift from previous statements by officials who said they weren’t sure whether Russia intended to use force in Syria and enter into the country’s long and brutal civil war. There already are early signs that Russia plans to target moderate forces that threaten the Assad regime, not the self-proclaimed Islamic State, which has been the focus of a year-long U.S.-led air campaign.

Moran link
 Quoting: General Drunken Stumblefuck

What the hell is this?

Now, the US is okay with it because Russia isn't targeting the US' targets (soldiers)?

US was concerned Russia would get in on the civil struggles, but isn't that EXACTLY what is said here?

Something is up, this defies logic to me.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Easy. Two sided conflict. The US coalition will take out ISIL, Russia is going to keep the pressure off Assad and we'll slowly meet in the middle to handle ISIS. The free syrian army is just going to get fucked in the process.

I mean we, the US is getting ready to set up on the Iraq-Syrian border again. The Kurds will come to us for safety again and the ISIS forces in Iraq will get squeezed between the Iraq-Iran coalition/or Iron Curtain, see post on page 1 of this thread.

Hopefully the mess will be mopped up with minimal work from all the factions involved.

I used to think some of you GLPers were smarter than this, but I guess not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70050341

You seem to think ISIL and ISIS are separate entities.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


They are and they aren't. Just like the FSA isn't ISIS or ISIL. One group is "freedom fighters", one group is pushing for caliphate and the other is pretty much just a rape, pillage and plunder group.
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Did that happen before or after the free syrian army stuff?
 Quoting: Nerve03


it happened before but it got worse when the syrian people saw other countries around them get their way over their own dictating leaders --- so the syrian tried also --- he went ballistic & killed thousands within just weeks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


bsflag
 Quoting: HoodRats


oh yes yes its all lies


assad is a great guy who ran a free country & he never killed anyone ever


DOrolleyes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


Proof? Did you witness it? Did you see it in MSM....ohyeah
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No, Fret. The U.S. won't sit idly by.

Syria is a big piece of the Risk Game.

It's a land grab most of all IMO.
 Quoting: Loewin


Well, I really wasn't alluding to the US sitting idly by, they have been ineffective at best (unmotivated at worst) against ISIS targets, so one could argue that we are already sitting idly by.

The article in the OP contradicts itself plainly, so this new cooperative spirit seems disingenuous to say the least.

Land, I agree is part of a bigger strategy behind ISIS' far and wide spread across the region. Billions and billions in profits to be made by western interests if they can wait until ISIS gets a foothold and swoop in to "save" everyone, and bring the corporate boys in behind them to "rebuild".

Yet, don't forget Gazprom's interest in Syrian territory, nor the ever important central bank that Syria is ripe for (just like Libya). Assad has a CB, but it's completely internal.

This is another potential band aid on a severely injured worldwide banking system, and I think it has a lot of players salivating.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz

Correct. I was including that in my "land grab" analogy.
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[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Russian combat operations on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad are likely to begin “soon,” three U.S. officials told The Daily Beast. And Russian drone flights to spot targets for potential airstrikes are already underway.
That concession by U.S. officials of growing Russian influence marks a shift from previous statements by officials who said they weren’t sure whether Russia intended to use force in Syria and enter into the country’s long and brutal civil war. There already are early signs that Russia plans to target moderate forces that threaten the Assad regime, not the self-proclaimed Islamic State, which has been the focus of a year-long U.S.-led air campaign.

Moran link
 Quoting: General Drunken Stumblefuck


thats because the free syrian army has been the ones pressing on assad

not ISIS

ISIS has been staying in the background harassing & killing & raping innocent people that wont fight back.
ISIS wont go after any military forces. thats why they arent harassing assads forces.

Putin wants to help his partner in crime "assad" therefore they will go after the free syrian army who are the ones who've been attacking assads forces
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


Get your no knowing ass out of here.
 Quoting: RollinSoLo

Ditto...
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You seem to think ISIL and ISIS are separate entities.
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They are and they aren't. Just like the FSA isn't ISIS or ISIL. One group is "freedom fighters", one group is pushing for caliphate and the other is pretty much just a rape, pillage and plunder group.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70050341

In my observations, only Federal spokesperson and politicians say ISIL. Normal people say ISIS, and the newscasters these days generally just say "Islamic State".

Are you certain you're not reading too much into this? I've never heard the distinction made between the two and have even heard "experts" interchange them in the same interview.

In short, I'd like a link.
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US funds and trains the Syrian opposition.
Russia will bomb the Syrian opposition.
Right?
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This will NOT end well.
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Destruction of Demascus ?
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I still don't get what Assad did.
 Quoting: Nerve03


I still dont get what Gaddaffi did
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I still don't get what Mubarak did
:4hlick:
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It's partly about ISIS and partly about ISIL. Partly about Russia being sanctioned, partly about assad being a tyrant, partly about Obama being a pussy, partly about Israel wanting to bomb Iran to keep them from getting a bomb.

This is a complex multi-sided international issue. We bounced on Iraq too quick, Russia sent a bunch terrorist down that way to keep them out of Chechnya... We and they hold a large blame here.

AND I HAVE TO BACK TO IRAQ FOR THE FOURTH FUCKING TIME TO CLEAN UP A MESS I CLEANED UP ONCE ALREADY.

So yeah, look at the issue from all sides, not one or the other.
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I totally understand that point!
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US funds and trains the Syrian opposition.
Russia will bomb the Syrian opposition.
Right?
 Quoting: Baltimoran


Yup
:4hlick:
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I still don't get what Assad did.
 Quoting: Nerve03

He would not agree to let Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE to build a oil pipeline through Syria to Turkey so they could sell oil and gas to the E.U. thus cutting Russia out.

Instead Assad agreed to build a pipeline through Iraq to Iran and connecting Russia into it also. That messed up the west's plan to bankrupt Russia.


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I don't get what Saddam did.
We supported him 100% when Reagan
was president.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44230079

Just don't get it? if you haven't caught on by now, it is all arbitrary - on the whim of the ruling elite of either side to determine even sacrifices of their own puppets among their kind.
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ISIS is probably # 3 or 4 on the priority list for putin & assad

they will deal with ISIS after but right now more important is the free syrian army who has been closing in on assad not ISIS
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And who is funding "The Free Syrian Army,"?
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ISIS is probably # 3 or 4 on the priority list for putin & assad

they will deal with ISIS after but right now more important is the free syrian army who has been closing in on assad not ISIS
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And who is funding "The Free Syrian Army,"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36816484


U.S.
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Russia Expands Fleet in Syria With Jets That Can Attack Targets on Ground
9/21/15

Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter raised those concerns with Russia’s defense minister, Sergei K. Shoigu, in a phone call on Friday. At the White House’s direction, Mr. Carter began a dialogue with Mr. Shoigu aimed at ensuring that American and Russian aircraft avoid unintended incidents as they operate over Syria.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

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"It would be well for your government to consider that having your ships and ours, your aircraft and ours, in such proximity... is inherently DANGEROUS. Wars have begun that way, Mr. Ambassador."

Dr. Pelt, Hunt for Red October.
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[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Russian combat operations on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad are likely to begin “soon,” three U.S. officials told The Daily Beast. And Russian drone flights to spot targets for potential airstrikes are already underway.
That concession by U.S. officials of growing Russian influence marks a shift from previous statements by officials who said they weren’t sure whether Russia intended to use force in Syria and enter into the country’s long and brutal civil war. There already are early signs that Russia plans to target moderate forces that threaten the Assad regime, not the self-proclaimed Islamic State, which has been the focus of a year-long U.S.-led air campaign.

Moran link
 Quoting: General Drunken Stumblefuck


thats because the free syrian army has been the ones pressing on assad

not ISIS

ISIS has been staying in the background harassing & killing & raping innocent people that wont fight back.
ISIS wont go after any military forces. thats why they arent harassing assads forces.

Putin wants to help his partner in crime "assad" therefore they will go after the free syrian army who are the ones who've been attacking assads forces
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70382079


You are an FSA terrorist supporter. I am reporting you too the authorities. I have your IP address and know everything about you you filthy Sunni Muslim Wahhabi RAT!.

This is the man you support and represent>>>>>>




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US funds and trains the Syrian opposition.
Russia will bomb the Syrian opposition.
Right?
 Quoting: Baltimoran


There are many groups who want to overthrow Assad. Primary one trained by US CIA and funded by Saudis are tge FSArmy, Assad's pissed off passed over promotion AWOL military.

So, basically yes, since the FSA us the group which can fly planes, set up strongholds, and are most efficient.

The rest if the antiAssad groups have too much infighting and lack of direction.

So perhaps you could draw an answer from that. However, since ISIS has been stealing from Assad and taking over villages, using any equipment it can...maybe the Ruskies can figure out a sneaky way to infiltrate them!





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