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People are kept from real Truth and Knowledge by labeling the information and the messenger as evil. Then weak people are afraid to explore it.

 
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Fear is our worst and most potent enemy. All you have to do to keep weak minded and lost people from real Truth and Knowledge is to label the information(book, message, messenger) as evil and people will avoid it like the plague.

Only those brave and wise enough to think for themselves will make up their own minds.
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09/28/2015 04:20 PM
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"Never mind. Another waste of my time..."

Don't give up, op. Many of us are like-minded.


Mebbe start a good thread about runes -- if you don't, I will.

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Odal -- that is heritage:

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09/28/2015 04:59 PM
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Never mind. Another waste of my time...
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Not a waste of YOUR time OP, a waste of time for those closed minded who read but refuse to even consider. If you have made an impression on just one person, your time has not been wasted.

I, for one, understand and actually practice what you have said above. Really good thread which should cause really informative discussion - but I do understand why you feel you are "wasting your time".
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09/28/2015 05:05 PM
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Re: People are kept from real Truth and Knowledge by labeling the information and the messenger as evil. Then weak people are afraid to explore it.
Fear is our worst and most potent enemy. All you have to do to keep weak minded and lost people from real Truth and Knowledge is to label the information(book, message, messenger) as evil and people will avoid it like the plague.

Only those brave and wise enough to think for themselves will make up their own minds.
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Word!

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09/29/2015 07:16 PM
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Re: People are kept from real Truth and Knowledge by labeling the information and the messenger as evil. Then weak people are afraid to explore it.
Never mind. Another waste of my time...
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Not a waste of YOUR time OP, a waste of time for those closed minded who read but refuse to even consider. If you have made an impression on just one person, your time has not been wasted.

I, for one, understand and actually practice what you have said above. Really good thread which should cause really informative discussion - but I do understand why you feel you are "wasting your time".
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^^^^ This ^^^^
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09/29/2015 07:18 PM
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Re: People are kept from real Truth and Knowledge by labeling the information and the messenger as evil. Then weak people are afraid to explore it.
Here are a few books that I always keep close to me and that I have found much Truth. I am NOT telling you to read them or to even read them! These are sources of Truth for me.

* Buckminster Fuller - Synergetics
* Fulcanelli - Le Mystere des Cathedrales and Dwellings of the Philosophers
* Aleister Crowley - Book of Thoth
* Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma

Decide for yourselves what is real Truth!
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I love all of these books!
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Re: People are kept from real Truth and Knowledge by labeling the information and the messenger as evil. Then weak people are afraid to explore it.
"Be careful? No, be courageous and be wise."


Being wise means being careful/wary, IMO.

But, yes, we must be courageous as well.


That was a cardinal virtue, courage, for the bad ignorant "pagan" predecessors of Christian Europe.
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The American Indians constantly told their children to "be brave". Not just in battle, but in life.

We only grow when we are brave enough to explore, both our physical world and the metaphysical one.
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"Be careful? No, be courageous and be wise."


Being wise means being careful/wary, IMO.

But, yes, we must be courageous as well.


That was a cardinal virtue, courage, for the bad ignorant "pagan" predecessors of Christian Europe.
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IIRC Jesus Christ said to his disciples: "be wise as serpents and innocent as a dove."

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10/02/2015 12:47 AM
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That is why "paganism" had to be demonized and its gods made into "devils".

That would be a good place to start, IMO.
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So you believe in many Gods? So they all sat at a round table and decided to create the world? Who was in charge of what? What if one didnt agree with the other? Do they have fights every once in a while? Who wins?
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That is why "paganism" had to be demonized and its gods made into "devils".

That would be a good place to start, IMO.
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So you believe in many Gods? So they all sat at a round table and decided to create the world? Who was in charge of what? What if one didnt agree with the other? Do they have fights every once in a while? Who wins?
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Some sort of UN of the Heavens, of sorts....
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10/07/2015 12:07 PM
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Re: People are kept from real Truth and Knowledge by labeling the information and the messenger as evil. Then weak people are afraid to explore it.
Weak minded people won't even consider the message themselves. They will simply believe what other deceivers tell them.

They will parrot what others have spouted and never even consider what they are missing.

Only the brave ever explore beyond the boundaries given to humanity.
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I'm not a Christian (or an adherent to any religion); I'm not defending anything at all.

But here you say that people will simply believe what other "deceivers" tell them, and then later in the thread you continually press other people to read more books (that ostensibly you agree with).

How is it that you're not:

a) Telling others to believe you that they should read books like, say, Aleister Crowley's.

b) Pushing others into a new category of belief, such as in the new books they read.

Why is it that you think reading more books leads to "truth," when it's self-evident, all over the place, that reading books obviously LEADS to belief.
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10/07/2015 12:11 PM
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Conditioning begins very young...you have to have a rebel mentality to free yourself and find truth..and when you find it you will be disturbed.
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Yes. It requires effort, courage and wisdom to find your Truth Path Home.

You will never find the Truth by only listening to others.
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reading books that are labeled by someone else is also , in a way , sending you to somewhere...
like , that is a truth...
same thing as it is with bible or kuran...
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10/07/2015 01:03 PM
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Re: People are kept from real Truth and Knowledge by labeling the information and the messenger as evil. Then weak people are afraid to explore it.
Here are a few books that I always keep close to me and that I have found much Truth. I am NOT telling you to read them or to even read them! These are sources of Truth for me.

* Buckminster Fuller - Synergetics
* Fulcanelli - Le Mystere des Cathedrales and Dwellings of the Philosophers
* Aleister Crowley - Book of Thoth
* Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma

Decide for yourselves what is real Truth!
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Are any of these free to read online, anyone know?
Thanks & great post OP.
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Re: People are kept from real Truth and Knowledge by labeling the information and the messenger as evil. Then weak people are afraid to explore it.
Ask anyone here, especially a Christian, what they think of Aleister Crowley. Ha,ha!

They say that he was a Satanist, a baby eater, an evil "Beast".

Then ask them if they read any of his books? No.

Read a biography of the man? No.

Met anyone that actually met the man? No.

So, how do you know that he was what he has been described as?

By what people on websites say about him!!!

How crazy is that!
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Dude bad example.
He actually was a satanist, baby eating defilement. I've read the books.
That being said, the truth is not in books. They may show you a different path to follow, but they are still the author's path each and everyone of us finds the truth down our own path.





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