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Masonry was founded by King Herod Agrippa with other 8 Jewish Founders

 
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Masonry was founded by King Herod Agrippa with other 8 Jewish Founders
* In the year 43, King Herod Agrippa summoned the court of Jerusalem and said:

o "Dear Brothers, you are not the King's men and his collaborators. You are the support of the King and the life of the Jewish people. Until now you have been his faithful followers. From this moment on you will be his brothers . . .

o "Let us all understand then, and let us not forget, that this fundamental meeting realized by this new group is based on Brotherhood . . .

o "My Brothers, the aristocracy as well as the common people have perceived the spiritual and even political revolt that the appearance of the Impostor Jesus ( as in the original) has caused among the people, and especially among our Israelites.

o "We have noted a great power in him, which he left as an inheritance to that group he called disciples. He founded an Association that he called a religion, it being called that by them as well. This supposed religion is at a point of overturning the foundations of our religion and demolishing it . . .

o "He attributed to himself the gift of prophecy and the power of performing miracles. He claimed to be the hoped-for Messiah of whom our prophets announced the coming; not being anything but a vulgar man like the rest of the people, devoid of any feature of the Divine Spirit, withdrawn to the extreme from the rectitude of our firm Jewish doctrine, from which we are determined not to deviate in even one point.

o "Never will we recognize such a person as the Messiah, nor will we recognize his divinity. We know that the hoped-for Messiah is not yet among us, nor has the time of his coming arrived. Nor has any sign been exhibited that might indicate his appearance. If we commit the error of letting our people follow him and be deceived, we convict ourselves of an unforgivable crime.

o "...We crucified him, he died and we buried him, leaving guards who watched the tomb. But it was claimed that he was risen, resurrected!... He disappeared in an unknown manner, in spite of the zealous vigilance and the security of the closure . . .

o "His leaving the tomb, my friends, was a decisive blow for his rivals; it was a powerful means that encourages his men to continue spreading his teachings and to prove the confirmation of his divinity . . .

o "We will not recognize, on any point, a religion other than ours, the Jewish religion that we have inherited from our ancestors. Duty calls us to preserve it until the end time.

o "That blow had never been expected. That mysterious force had never been dreamed of. Our fathers attacked it and we continue attacking it. In spite of everything, astonishing! Their number increases. Observe with me how the son is separated from the father, the brother from his brother, the daughter from her mother, all alienating themselves to join that group. This affair encloses a great secret. How many men, how many women, how many entire families have abandoned the Jewish religion in order to follow those impostors, those partisans of Jesus. How many times they were threatened by the priests and authorities, in vain!" (The Dissipation of the Darkness, the Origin of Masonry, pp. 45-47).

II. The original name of ancient Masonry was "The Mysterious Force"

Hiram Abiud, the King's Counselor, who was the real founder of ancient Masonry, proposed the name of the association as the "Mysterious Force." This was his reason:

* "...It seems that there has been a hand, a force, secret, mysterious, that punishes us without our being able to offer resistance. It seems we have lost all our strength to defend our religion and our existence itself.

* "Majesty, based on the evidence that there is no efficacious means of incorporating our ideas, nor firm hope of attacking that force, undoubtedly mysterious; there is no other oath than to establish a Mysterious force, similar to that one (to attack mystery with mystery) have come to the conclusion that it is our unavoidable duty, unless you have a better idea to establish an Association of greater power so it may assemble the Jewish forces threatened by that mysterious force. It is fitting that no one knows anything about this foundation, its principles and its actions. Only those whom Yours Majesty may choose as founders will know the secret of the foundation." (p. 43).

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Next stop federal reserve . . . or was that 'amerika?' I always get confused on that one. . . 1doh1
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Wrong.

You are an ignorant fuck.

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the group now known as masonry goes back a few hundred years.

_real_ masonry go back into pre-history, but has absolutely nothing to do with todays 'masonry'.
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so many conflicting conspiracy theories, so little evidence of any.
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the group now known as masonry goes back a few hundred years.

_real_ masonry go back into pre-history, but has absolutely nothing to do with todays 'masonry'.
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so many conflicting conspiracy theories, so little evidence of any.
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* In the year 43, King Herod Agrippa summoned the court of Jerusalem and said:

o "Dear Brothers, you are not the King's men and his collaborators. You are the support of the King and the life of the Jewish people. Until now you have been his faithful followers. From this moment on you will be his brothers . . .

o "Let us all understand then, and let us not forget, that this fundamental meeting realized by this new group is based on Brotherhood . . .

o "My Brothers, the aristocracy as well as the common people have perceived the spiritual and even political revolt that the appearance of the Impostor Jesus ( as in the original) has caused among the people, and especially among our Israelites.

o "We have noted a great power in him, which he left as an inheritance to that group he called disciples. He founded an Association that he called a religion, it being called that by them as well. This supposed religion is at a point of overturning the foundations of our religion and demolishing it . . .

o "He attributed to himself the gift of prophecy and the power of performing miracles. He claimed to be the hoped-for Messiah of whom our prophets announced the coming; not being anything but a vulgar man like the rest of the people, devoid of any feature of the Divine Spirit, withdrawn to the extreme from the rectitude of our firm Jewish doctrine, from which we are determined not to deviate in even one point.

o "Never will we recognize such a person as the Messiah, nor will we recognize his divinity. We know that the hoped-for Messiah is not yet among us, nor has the time of his coming arrived. Nor has any sign been exhibited that might indicate his appearance. If we commit the error of letting our people follow him and be deceived, we convict ourselves of an unforgivable crime.

o "...We crucified him, he died and we buried him, leaving guards who watched the tomb. But it was claimed that he was risen, resurrected!... He disappeared in an unknown manner, in spite of the zealous vigilance and the security of the closure . . .

o "His leaving the tomb, my friends, was a decisive blow for his rivals; it was a powerful means that encourages his men to continue spreading his teachings and to prove the confirmation of his divinity . . .

o "We will not recognize, on any point, a religion other than ours, the Jewish religion that we have inherited from our ancestors. Duty calls us to preserve it until the end time.

o "That blow had never been expected. That mysterious force had never been dreamed of. Our fathers attacked it and we continue attacking it. In spite of everything, astonishing! Their number increases. Observe with me how the son is separated from the father, the brother from his brother, the daughter from her mother, all alienating themselves to join that group. This affair encloses a great secret. How many men, how many women, how many entire families have abandoned the Jewish religion in order to follow those impostors, those partisans of Jesus. How many times they were threatened by the priests and authorities, in vain!" (The Dissipation of the Darkness, the Origin of Masonry, pp. 45-47).

II. The original name of ancient Masonry was "The Mysterious Force"

Hiram Abiud, the King's Counselor, who was the real founder of ancient Masonry, proposed the name of the association as the "Mysterious Force." This was his reason:

* "...It seems that there has been a hand, a force, secret, mysterious, that punishes us without our being able to offer resistance. It seems we have lost all our strength to defend our religion and our existence itself.

* "Majesty, based on the evidence that there is no efficacious means of incorporating our ideas, nor firm hope of attacking that force, undoubtedly mysterious; there is no other oath than to establish a Mysterious force, similar to that one (to attack mystery with mystery) have come to the conclusion that it is our unavoidable duty, unless you have a better idea to establish an Association of greater power so it may assemble the Jewish forces threatened by that mysterious force. It is fitting that no one knows anything about this foundation, its principles and its actions. Only those whom Yours Majesty may choose as founders will know the secret of the foundation." (p. 43).

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Why is it that people searching for answers always want to believe the wrong one? Hiram Abiff was already a master mason, which would mean they already existed so how could the King have founded the masons? Masonry started long before herod wanted to join them...
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