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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70394091 United States 10/01/2015 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70394091 Isaiah 14:21 21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. Now, do these verses contradict each other, or do you just not know what the hell you're talking about? Isaiah 14 is talking about the fall of Babylon, you would know that if you read it in context. You should read Ezekiel in context too. This is the problem when Edomites and people outside of Israel try to teach the Bible. You spew false doctrine and end up looking like a fool. Isaiah 14 IS about Babylon, but as any idiot should be able to tell you, there was ancient Babylon and there is also a current Babylon. Everything in the past is just as relevant today, hence the reason the new place is ALSO called Babylon. Isaiah 14 however is FUTURE PROPHECY, not about the past. If you dispute this, then you would have to explain why 14:1-3 references Israel taken their oppressors as slaves when this did NOT happen in ancient Babylon. They went out from Babylonian captivity to rulership under the Persians/Medes. Not only that, there is a reason Isaiah 14:12-15 says the same thing as Obadiah 1:3-4 which is a chapter concerning the nation of Edom SPECIFICALLY. You have to be an Israelite to swing this sword devil, and you can't measure up. BTW...Ezekiel 18 is about Israel ONLY, not the other nations. You fail on all counts. But that's about ancient Babylon, not present Babylon. And you're not an Israelite. I could care less what you think, you're an Edomite and you're going into slavery. For a second time- IF ISAIAH 14 IS ABOUT ANCIENT BABYLON, THEN WHY DO VERSES 14:1-3 REFERENCE ISRAEL TAKING THEIR OPPRESSORS AS SLAVES AFTERWARDS WHEN THIS DID NOT HAPPEN WHEN THEY LEFT ANCIENT BABYLON? |
Monotheism User ID: 70447171 Sweden 10/01/2015 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could care less what you think, you're an Edomite and you're going into slavery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70394091 But you're not an Israelite, so why would I care what you have to say? I recognize the particular filth that pours out of your mouth. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. Luke 6:45 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70394091 United States 10/01/2015 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could care less what you think, you're an Edomite and you're going into slavery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70394091 But you're not an Israelite, so why would I care what you have to say? I recognize the particular filth that pours out of your mouth. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. Luke 6:45 For the last time before I ignore you totally Edomite, IF ISAIAH 14 IS ABOUT ANCIENT BABYLON, THEN WHY DO VERSES 14:1-3 REFERENCE ISRAEL TAKING THEIR OPPRESSORS AS SLAVES AFTERWARDS WHEN THIS DID NOT HAPPEN WHEN THEY LEFT ANCIENT BABYLON? |
Monotheism User ID: 70447171 Sweden 10/01/2015 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could care less what you think, you're an Edomite and you're going into slavery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70394091 But you're not an Israelite, so why would I care what you have to say? I recognize the particular filth that pours out of your mouth. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. Luke 6:45 For the last time before I ignore you totally Edomite, IF ISAIAH 14 IS ABOUT ANCIENT BABYLON, THEN WHY DO VERSES 14:1-3 REFERENCE ISRAEL TAKING THEIR OPPRESSORS AS SLAVES AFTERWARDS WHEN THIS DID NOT HAPPEN WHEN THEY LEFT ANCIENT BABYLON? How do you know it didn't? What are you even basing that claim on? Last Edited by Monotheism on 10/01/2015 12:28 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70394091 United States 10/01/2015 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could care less what you think, you're an Edomite and you're going into slavery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70394091 But you're not an Israelite, so why would I care what you have to say? I recognize the particular filth that pours out of your mouth. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. Luke 6:45 For the last time before I ignore you totally Edomite, IF ISAIAH 14 IS ABOUT ANCIENT BABYLON, THEN WHY DO VERSES 14:1-3 REFERENCE ISRAEL TAKING THEIR OPPRESSORS AS SLAVES AFTERWARDS WHEN THIS DID NOT HAPPEN WHEN THEY LEFT ANCIENT BABYLON? How do you know it didn't? Prove that it did WITH SCRIPTURE, otherwise it didn't. Obviously if you could, you would have already. There are many other context clues in that chapter that makes it clear that it didn't happen regardless. Since you're running my question, clearly you don't have any answer. That's not surprising though. Proverbs 28:1 1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. |
Monotheism User ID: 70447171 Sweden 10/01/2015 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Monotheism But you're not an Israelite, so why would I care what you have to say? I recognize the particular filth that pours out of your mouth. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. Luke 6:45 For the last time before I ignore you totally Edomite, IF ISAIAH 14 IS ABOUT ANCIENT BABYLON, THEN WHY DO VERSES 14:1-3 REFERENCE ISRAEL TAKING THEIR OPPRESSORS AS SLAVES AFTERWARDS WHEN THIS DID NOT HAPPEN WHEN THEY LEFT ANCIENT BABYLON? How do you know it didn't? Prove that it did WITH SCRIPTURE, otherwise it didn't. Obviously if you could, you would have already. There are many other context clues in that chapter that makes it clear that it didn't happen regardless. Since you're running my question, clearly you don't have any answer. That's not surprising though. Proverbs 28:1 1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. What are you even talking about? The proof is right there. You're the one contradiction it. God's word. Or am I to expect God didn't make good on His promise? Gods word vs your word. Which to choose? Decisions decisions.... You're not even familiar with your own law, "Israelite" Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. Deuteronomy 23:7 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70394091 United States 10/01/2015 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70394091 For the last time before I ignore you totally Edomite, IF ISAIAH 14 IS ABOUT ANCIENT BABYLON, THEN WHY DO VERSES 14:1-3 REFERENCE ISRAEL TAKING THEIR OPPRESSORS AS SLAVES AFTERWARDS WHEN THIS DID NOT HAPPEN WHEN THEY LEFT ANCIENT BABYLON? How do you know it didn't? Prove that it did WITH SCRIPTURE, otherwise it didn't. Obviously if you could, you would have already. There are many other context clues in that chapter that makes it clear that it didn't happen regardless. Since you're running my question, clearly you don't have any answer. That's not surprising though. Proverbs 28:1 1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. What are you even talking about? The proof is right there. You're the one contradiction it. God's word. Or am I to expect God didn't make good on His promise? Gods word vs your word. Which to choose? Decisions decisions.... You're not even familiar with your own law, "Israelite" Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. Deuteronomy 23:7 LMAO, what do you mean 'the proof is right there'. Either it happened or it didn't and Isaiah 14:1-3 is clearly describing a future time from the time it was written. We have books and scriptures from AFTER the time of Babylon, so if they did leave Babylon with slaves, the proof of it would be in there. It's not because it didn't happen. I can't 'prove' a negative. Now that it's declared you lost that argument (you're 0/2 tonight), now you want to bring up Deuteronomy 23:7. :tounge: First off, thanks for admitting you're an Edomite first off. Secondly, you don't have understanding of that verse to even speak on it. Deuteronomy 23:7 is has Edomite there as a CLERICAL ERROR for the word Syrian. Edomite isn't supposed to be there in that verse. PROOF: 726 'Arowmiy ar-o-mee' a clerical error for 130; an Edomite (as in the margin}:--Syrian. [link to www.eliyah.com] But let's humor your bullshit understanding for a second. Let's say that the verse really should say Edomite. Not only did Esau break the brotherly covenant later on which voided any brotherly action towards you people pursuant to Amos 1:9-11 9 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Tyrus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they delivered up the whole captivity to Edom, and remembered not the brotherly covenant: 10 But I will send a fire on the wall of Tyrus, which shall devour the palaces thereof. 11 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Edom, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because he did pursue his brother with the sword, and did cast off all pity, and his anger did tear perpetually, and he kept his wrath for ever: It STILL doesn't change the fact the most high is going to let lose His people on the fucking Edomites and get vengeance for everything wicked that has been done. Obadiah 1:18 18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70394091 United States 10/01/2015 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prove that it did WITH SCRIPTURE, otherwise it didn't. Obviously if you could, you would have already. There are many other context clues in that chapter that makes it clear that it didn't happen regardless. Since you're running my question, clearly you don't have any answer. That's not surprising though. Proverbs 28:1 1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. What are you even talking about? The proof is right there. You're the one contradiction it. God's word. Or am I to expect God didn't make good on His promise? Gods word vs your word. Which to choose? Decisions decisions.... You're not even familiar with your own law, "Israelite" Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. Deuteronomy 23:7 LMAO, what do you mean 'the proof is right there'. Either it happened or it didn't and Isaiah 14:1-3 is clearly describing a future time from the time it was written. We have books and scriptures from AFTER the time of Babylon, so if they did leave Babylon with slaves, the proof of it would be in there. It's not because it didn't happen. I can't 'prove' a negative. Now that it's declared you lost that argument (you're 0/2 tonight), now you want to bring up Deuteronomy 23:7. :tounge: First off, thanks for admitting you're an Edomite first off. Secondly, you don't have understanding of that verse to even speak on it. Deuteronomy 23:7 is has Edomite there as a CLERICAL ERROR for the word Syrian. Edomite isn't supposed to be there in that verse. PROOF: 726 'Arowmiy ar-o-mee' a clerical error for 130; an Edomite (as in the margin}:--Syrian. [link to www.eliyah.com] But let's humor your bullshit understanding for a second. Let's say that the verse really should say Edomite. Not only did Esau break the brotherly covenant later on which voided any brotherly action towards you people pursuant to Amos 1:9-11 9 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Tyrus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they delivered up the whole captivity to Edom, and remembered not the brotherly covenant: 10 But I will send a fire on the wall of Tyrus, which shall devour the palaces thereof. 11 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Edom, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because he did pursue his brother with the sword, and did cast off all pity, and his anger did tear perpetually, and he kept his wrath for ever: It STILL doesn't change the fact the most high is going to let lose His people on the fucking Edomites and get vengeance for everything wicked that has been done. Obadiah 1:18 18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it. Game over Esau. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54580404 United States 10/01/2015 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | goats are some of the few animals that have sex outside of mating season. most other animals only have sex during mating season. humans don't abide by any mating season, they are like goats who have sex for pleasure and not just for making children. this was original sin.... having sex. being tempted by sex. the goat represents our sexual desires, this is why sheep go to heaven and goats go to hell. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54580404 United States 10/01/2015 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "And though much is made in schools and textbooks of the major Olympian gods Zeus and the gang it is clear from archaeological evidence that Pan was the favorite god of the Greek people. "It's a fact that there are more dedications to him than to any other..." (Pitt-Kethley xi). Perhaps this is what led Christian theologians to demonize Pan; they sensed a powerful competitor for the hearts of the people. This demonization was no accident, but rather a deliberate twisting of pagan ideals as Christianity spread its influence throughout Europe. After the Council of Nicea issued the Nicene Creed and the Roman Catholic Church was established in 325 C.E., Christian theologians (beginning with Eusebius) transformed Pan from a benign nature god to Satan the great Adversary." |
Monotheism User ID: 70447171 Sweden 10/01/2015 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a possible scribal error, not a factual. The only ones calling it a factual error are filthy racial supremacist. The Herew Bible renders it as Edomite. And I'm not an Edomite anyway, so... And Amos lived several centuries after Deuteronomy was written. I don't know why I'm arguing with a racial supremacist anyway. I feel impure just talking to you and listening to your hate tht pours from your heart. Last Edited by Monotheism on 10/01/2015 01:14 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70394091 United States 10/01/2015 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a possible scribal error, not a factual. The only ones calling it a factual error are filthy racial supremacist. The Herew Bible renders it as Edomite. And Amos lived several centuries after Deuteronomy was written. I don't know why I'm arguing with a racial supremacist anyway. I feel impure just talking to you and listening to your hate tht pours from your heart. Quoting: Monotheism LMAO...the story of Cain comes to mind reading this last statement. he committed the disgusting act of murder on his own brother, and then he wants to try to dodge judgement and cry about it. Believe it or not, you were actually Cain before you were Esau. Genesis 4:13 3 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. What's funny is I haven't brought up 'race' at all in this conversation with you tonight, but by the truth that I speak, you KNOW who I am and you KNOW who you are also. That's the spirit and power of the Most High. |
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