BREAKING NEWS: RUSSIA SU-30 ENGAGED WITH ISRAEL F-15 AND THEY FLED!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70465060 Argentina 10/02/2015 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think they were testing russian defenses, but FOUR F-15?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22698634 Wasn't there anything else and they chickened out? (Like fire missiles or, worse, bomb the airfield?. It was around midnight. It seems that SU-30 is something to take seriously. WHAT IS NEXT??????????????????????? Yep....looks like a test of defenses....likely to get them to light up their radar stations too. This is how they took out the Syrians (and Arabs) once before. Interesting. 1967 war is 38 years in the past. No flight computers, stinky missiles and obsolete MIGs on the arab side. Israel FORCED US to provide them top-notch Phantom F4 with Sidewinder I AA missiles. This only aspect allowed Israel to get rid of the obsolete MIG-17 and MIG-21 with lousy firepower. Besides, US provided full radar coverage from the fleet parked near the coast of Israel PLUS all the satellite and intelligence data they had. Besides, Egypt betrayed their allies, and because the strategic importance of this country, US arranged very quickly peace between both and started providing Egypt with advanced military gear. Proof is the Camp David accord, at wich Israel agree to return Sinai Peninsul to Egypt. More or less, now both nations are "allies", as were probed when Egypt destroyed Gaza Strip tunnels on behalf of Israel, two years ago. And because of that, Muslim Brotherhood was wiped out of the power, placing a military as President wich is akin to Israel and US. By the way, 38 years ago, China had only 2 millions landline telephones. Check how is China doing today. Everything changes if you have the industrial power and the intelligence. Russia has the best mathematicians and physics in the whole world. And if they don't have 300 Nobel Prizes is because they were the core of the USSR. The ingenuity of Russia is unrivaled!! They managed to buy the rights of SPARC RISC microprocessors at the beggining of the '90s, evolving from there to develop high performance DSP, essential for military electronics and aerospace. I could follow this for hours. Anyone, take the job to check how many chip factories exist in Russia. You'll be surprised. Shure, they can`t follow the development path of Intel and AMD. So, they buy what they need from China to construct their IT infrastructure. Russian are practical: if they can buy things cheap from Asia, they are not going to spend billions just for pride. They make good things CHEAP! Scatterbrain much? Bottom line....old techniques still work very well in the age of modern technology. Hint....for the tards like you waving the Russian patriot flag... ...why IN ANY BATTLE would you attack a line without understanding enemy defenses? Military Strategy 101. "The general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple; here the battle is fought. The General who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose." – Sun Tzu - The Art of War :clues: You offended me. I'm a senior citizen from Argentina who has no political biases. I'm an Electrical Engineer and used to make a living working for a multinational in the defense segment since the '70s. Plus, I like very much to understand geopolitical, economical and military issues from the whole world. Needed it for my job. Obviously you didn't read the whole post or, worst yet, you didn't understand it. I don't know if you are a kid, somebody in their 40's or older than that. But what speak volumes about yourself is your level of agression and insults. Be a better person and discuss the ideas instead of attacking the person who shares them!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3998821 Canada 10/02/2015 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this supposed to be a credible source? Is this the kind of stuff you guys go tell your night shift coworkers at the truck stop about and then wonder why they all think you're crazy? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69033430 For some reason whenever a story has to do with something pro Russia, ANY source is considered 100% truth. Whether it's RT, or some Russian tweens blog, it is the TRUTH!! because americans only lie when they open their mouths |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28725660 Canada 10/02/2015 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smart pilots. Those SU-30's are kick ass fighters. Look em up and watch them on youtube. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70463948 Yeah, they get superior marks from buyers: The Latest Russian Fighter Jet Blows America’s Away - WORLD NEWS January 7, 2015 ...Russia’s technological level is best in its class in many military sectors, especially with regard to fighter jets. It originally appeared in Russia & India Report. The SU-30 continues to be the number one choice among global buyers. |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 10/02/2015 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater Yep....looks like a test of defenses....likely to get them to light up their radar stations too. This is how they took out the Syrians (and Arabs) once before. Interesting. 1967 war is 38 years in the past. No flight computers, stinky missiles and obsolete MIGs on the arab side. Israel FORCED US to provide them top-notch Phantom F4 with Sidewinder I AA missiles. This only aspect allowed Israel to get rid of the obsolete MIG-17 and MIG-21 with lousy firepower. Besides, US provided full radar coverage from the fleet parked near the coast of Israel PLUS all the satellite and intelligence data they had. Besides, Egypt betrayed their allies, and because the strategic importance of this country, US arranged very quickly peace between both and started providing Egypt with advanced military gear. Proof is the Camp David accord, at wich Israel agree to return Sinai Peninsul to Egypt. More or less, now both nations are "allies", as were probed when Egypt destroyed Gaza Strip tunnels on behalf of Israel, two years ago. And because of that, Muslim Brotherhood was wiped out of the power, placing a military as President wich is akin to Israel and US. By the way, 38 years ago, China had only 2 millions landline telephones. Check how is China doing today. Everything changes if you have the industrial power and the intelligence. Russia has the best mathematicians and physics in the whole world. And if they don't have 300 Nobel Prizes is because they were the core of the USSR. The ingenuity of Russia is unrivaled!! They managed to buy the rights of SPARC RISC microprocessors at the beggining of the '90s, evolving from there to develop high performance DSP, essential for military electronics and aerospace. I could follow this for hours. Anyone, take the job to check how many chip factories exist in Russia. You'll be surprised. Shure, they can`t follow the development path of Intel and AMD. So, they buy what they need from China to construct their IT infrastructure. Russian are practical: if they can buy things cheap from Asia, they are not going to spend billions just for pride. They make good things CHEAP! Scatterbrain much? Bottom line....old techniques still work very well in the age of modern technology. Hint....for the tards like you waving the Russian patriot flag... ...why IN ANY BATTLE would you attack a line without understanding enemy defenses? Military Strategy 101. "The general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple; here the battle is fought. The General who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose." – Sun Tzu - The Art of War You offended me. I'm a senior citizen from Argentina who has no political biases. I'm an Electrical Engineer and used to make a living working for a multinational in the defense segment since the '70s. Plus, I like very much to understand geopolitical, economical and military issues from the whole world. Needed it for my job. Obviously you didn't read the whole post or, worst yet, you didn't understand it. I don't know if you are a kid, somebody in their 40's or older than that. But what speak volumes about yourself is your level of agression and insults. Be a better person and discuss the ideas instead of attacking the person who shares them!!! Cool story bro! Still meaningless....since you were obviously waving the Russian patriot flag and apparently have no concept of basic military principles. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44276399 United States 10/02/2015 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia just launched one of its largest deployments ever, on the heels of Ukraine quagmire, it realized it was getting BTFO by not playing the great game directly. Welcome to the middle east rus bros, US have been here since 1990 patrolling the skies, but come and think you will waltz btwn pincer of Isaeaeli nastiness, US shadow ops, (hence the trap)... Russia is quite good at taking casualties in warfare, if only mediocre (if ever proven) in same time spent in A-stan, rus took ~15x more than US in same span of time. Depends how hot Putin intends to make it. |
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-VonAmoR- User ID: 62144203 United States 10/02/2015 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian pilots keep on missing their targets they stand no chance against IAF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70378208 Then why did your boys turn around and run? STUPID..turn off your xbox.. If your mission/payload designated for something else.....plus specific engagement rules...plus foreign iterator plus 5v6... plus no official declaration of war...you avoid contact. Unless you're drunken russian..... Either those F-15's were somewhere they should not have been....or they ran like chickens in their own turf. Think about that for a while. Last Edited by -Adam- on 10/02/2015 07:05 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69987235 United States 10/02/2015 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israelis haven't gone up against a proper army since they fought Egypt in the 70's. They are used to fighting rag tag militants in Gaza who have basically no weapons, yet these Hamas fighters still managed to kill about 60 Israeli soldiers last year during Caste Lead. Israel is good at fighting a weakened foe like Hamas and bombing babies in their beds while they sleep, but they could never go up against a proper army. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70466165 United States 10/02/2015 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the alternative is... what? Do the Israelis really want to get into a shooting war with Russia? Do you think that would be a smart thing for them to do? It's easy to be brave from 6,000 miles away from the fight, isn't it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70465060 Argentina 10/02/2015 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't want to quote your posting again, as it waste a lot of space. I read your profile and could see you are an avid GLP member with more than 60000 posts on a wide variety of topics since 2010. I could also watch that you are prone to use "TARD" on many different topics, to downgrade others. OK, it's your way to handle things. Be it. Regarding military strategy, you are right. I don't know a bit about it and, also, is not a topic of my interest. Trying to understand you, I've read the post carefully. Two things worth an aclaration for me: 1) I insist that nobody test defense system with FOUR F-15. This is a test of RESOLUTION, not defense. US sent israeli planes to test the "mood" of the russians there. US and others know exactly what Russia has over there, and didn't need a close approach for that. 2) You say: waving russian patriotic flag. WRONG!! I know a lot about US military, but Russia is kind of a mistery to me, and I try to gather info regarding what they are capable of doing in the technology field, wich includes defense technology. My patriotic flag appears where the ID is, and is light blue and white. Finally, I was working at Canada when Malvinas war started, and I recall clearly HOW MUCH US help UK. We were kicking their asses with our airforce against the whole fleet and fighter jets using Sidewinder II, when US stepped in and provided UK the Sidewinder III AA missile, putting our Air Force out of the game. Same thing did with Israel in 1967 with Sidewinder I AA missiles, what changed the course of the war. Yet, I don't blame US. Business are business, here and there. So, sober up and stop being so beligerant. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70466165 United States 10/02/2015 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israeli pilots are the most skilful and bestest pilots in world, with the best eyesight, and since the USS Liberty incident we have even learned all the important flags. Quoting: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef 69155896 lol, very amusing, but probably lost on most... Ha! Israeli pilots are so talented and highly skilled they couldn't see the huge American flag flying or read the 13 foot high ID numbers on the bow of the ship. [link to www.navsource.org] |
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we will see User ID: 58935801 United States 10/02/2015 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry Israel, there are some stupid American's that do nothing but watch MSN and CNN . They seem to forget that your nation is the only democracy in the region. I know better than to believe than Your pilots would run from Russian's , or anyone else for that matter. There are many of us that support your nation and pray for the peace of your nation. You are a chosen people. Please forgive the stupid, they are a product of USA government education . Shalom |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42202862 United States 10/02/2015 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Air combat is all about tactics, I.e. your strengths should always be applied against your adversaries' weaknesses. Tsun Tsu wrote about that thousands of years ago. The Israeli flight was two fold purposed: ascertain Russian response and strategy; and to demonstrate that Israel is more than willing to probe in force. Keep in mind that the F-15 piloted by US pilots has never been defeated in air to air combat; except to mock combat with the F-22...remember as well that air combat is not just about the platform, but principally about tactics and how the platform is utilized. The IDF is patrolling their neighborhood... the bear best be ware! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70465060 Argentina 10/02/2015 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Air combat is all about tactics, I.e. your strengths should always be applied against your adversaries' weaknesses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42202862 Tsun Tsu wrote about that thousands of years ago. The Israeli flight was two fold purposed: ascertain Russian response and strategy; and to demonstrate that Israel is more than willing to probe in force. Keep in mind that the F-15 piloted by US pilots has never been defeated in air to air combat; except to mock combat with the F-22...remember as well that air combat is not just about the platform, but principally about tactics and how the platform is utilized. The IDF is patrolling their neighborhood... the bear best be ware! I'm tired of this shit. IDF this, IDF that..... The brave IDF macho are used ONLY to kill sitting duck palestinians, while the brave israelis watch the massacre sipping tea at their terraces!! Find this disgusting spectacle at YouTube videoclips. IDF is an hyper-hyped object sponsored by zionist MSM. For them, palestinians are sub-humans. I will watch with pleasure how Israel cut a deal with Russia to avoid inhanalation. Jordan, Syria, Irak, Egypt and even SA are foes. Russia stands in between playing 5-D chess. Karma is a bitch and Israel has a lot to equate, cosmically. Very few people realizes (besides the experts) that Israel has an Achiles Heel called Demona. A single stroke over there shutdowns Israel. What has prevented that this ting happened? Just fear. But now, on the verge of WW3, better that Israel start performing as Russia's prison bitch or else.... Go ahead, cocky MF!! Try to pursue Grand Israel Agenda!! And, by the way, you can shove your military power up to the ass!!!! Who do you think you are, stinking 3rd world pit. Watch over your old partner, South Africa. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19782831 United States 10/02/2015 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater Yep....looks like a test of defenses....likely to get them to light up their radar stations too. This is how they took out the Syrians (and Arabs) once before. Interesting. 1967 war is 38 years in the past. No flight computers, stinky missiles and obsolete MIGs on the arab side. Israel FORCED US to provide them top-notch Phantom F4 with Sidewinder I AA missiles. This only aspect allowed Israel to get rid of the obsolete MIG-17 and MIG-21 with lousy firepower. Besides, US provided full radar coverage from the fleet parked near the coast of Israel PLUS all the satellite and intelligence data they had. Besides, Egypt betrayed their allies, and because the strategic importance of this country, US arranged very quickly peace between both and started providing Egypt with advanced military gear. Proof is the Camp David accord, at wich Israel agree to return Sinai Peninsul to Egypt. More or less, now both nations are "allies", as were probed when Egypt destroyed Gaza Strip tunnels on behalf of Israel, two years ago. And because of that, Muslim Brotherhood was wiped out of the power, placing a military as President wich is akin to Israel and US. By the way, 38 years ago, China had only 2 millions landline telephones. Check how is China doing today. Everything changes if you have the industrial power and the intelligence. Russia has the best mathematicians and physics in the whole world. And if they don't have 300 Nobel Prizes is because they were the core of the USSR. The ingenuity of Russia is unrivaled!! They managed to buy the rights of SPARC RISC microprocessors at the beggining of the '90s, evolving from there to develop high performance DSP, essential for military electronics and aerospace. I could follow this for hours. Anyone, take the job to check how many chip factories exist in Russia. You'll be surprised. Shure, they can`t follow the development path of Intel and AMD. So, they buy what they need from China to construct their IT infrastructure. Russian are practical: if they can buy things cheap from Asia, they are not going to spend billions just for pride. They make good things CHEAP! Scatterbrain much? Bottom line....old techniques still work very well in the age of modern technology. Hint....for the tards like you waving the Russian patriot flag... ...why IN ANY BATTLE would you attack a line without understanding enemy defenses? Military Strategy 101. "The general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple; here the battle is fought. The General who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose." – Sun Tzu - The Art of War :clues: You offended me. I'm a senior citizen from Argentina who has no political biases. I'm an Electrical Engineer and used to make a living working for a multinational in the defense segment since the '70s. Plus, I like very much to understand geopolitical, economical and military issues from the whole world. Needed it for my job. Obviously you didn't read the whole post or, worst yet, you didn't understand it. I don't know if you are a kid, somebody in their 40's or older than that. But what speak volumes about yourself is your level of agression and insults. Be a better person and discuss the ideas instead of attacking the person who shares them!!! over 3000 Jewish Russians moved to Israel in last 20 years "All with an average IQ over 160"... Many were experts in military industry |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19782831 United States 10/02/2015 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soviet tech has an extensive history of getting BTFO by Western Jets (especially by the F-15) whether the pilots be Soviet or Arabs. This time time will be no different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44276399 Russia just launched one of its largest deployments ever, on the heels of Ukraine quagmire, it realized it was getting BTFO by not playing the great game directly. Welcome to the middle east rus bros, US have been here since 1990 patrolling the skies, but come and think you will waltz btwn pincer of Isaeaeli nastiness, US shadow ops, (hence the trap)... Russia is quite good at taking casualties in warfare, if only mediocre (if ever proven) in same time spent in A-stan, rus took ~15x more than US in same span of time. Depends how hot Putin intends to make it. yeah in afghanistan over 50% of russian soilders were heroin addict's.... they make great pilots when drunk and stoned... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16317028 United States 10/02/2015 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian pilots keep on missing their targets they stand no chance against IAF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70378208 most russian pilots cant even fly properly. russia ranked worst in air collisions & downed planes in the world 2004 thru 2010 period. so either their pilots are some of the worst in the world, or they build crap plane engines that malfunction at a high rate But damn as well will take 5 sec to destroy ur Canadian ass |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16317028 United States 10/02/2015 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian pilots keep on missing their targets they stand no chance against IAF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70378208 most russian pilots cant even fly properly. russia ranked worst in air collisions & downed planes in the world 2004 thru 2010 period. so either their pilots are some of the worst in the world, or they build crap plane engines that malfunction at a high rate But damn as well will take 5 sec to destroy ur Canadian ass plz i'm beggin don't start with the bear......promise not shill just historian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16317028 United States 10/02/2015 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian pilots keep on missing their targets they stand no chance against IAF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70378208 most russian pilots cant even fly properly. russia ranked worst in air collisions & downed planes in the world 2004 thru 2010 period. so either their pilots are some of the worst in the world, or they build crap plane engines that malfunction at a high rate But damn as well will take 5 sec to destroy ur Canadian ass plz i'm beggin don't start with the bear......promise not shill just historian You guys cool ..... who the hell won with rusia....for real get some facts |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69908962 Canada 10/02/2015 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian pilots keep on missing their targets they stand no chance against IAF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70378208 most russian pilots cant even fly properly. russia ranked worst in air collisions & downed planes in the world 2004 thru 2010 period. so either their pilots are some of the worst in the world, or they build crap plane engines that malfunction at a high rate ^^or both^^ oh look everyone, two ignorant joos |