how did adolf hitler lose ww2

He underestimated Russia just as the Japs underestimated the US.

Pride goeth before the fall.

Time Travel

Someone in the future went back to tell the Allies how to beat Hitler

No one has yet attacked and conquered Russia from the west. Napoleon failed, and the Germans failed twice. The Russian Front is HUGE. And when you factor in winter weather, the massive numbers of citizens thrown in to defend Mother Russia, and, as in WWII, the U.S. supplying Russia with literally thousands of tons of armaments, it's a tough nut to crack.

Last Edited by Mark Spitz, Phelps Swallows on 10/05/2015 03:41 AM

Janus is a codeword for double agent

Do you know which two agencies you represent

Russia also relocated their production centers farther East prior to the German invasion.

Should not have gone East and never attempted the Blitz. He knew better, he had all the screws loose.

Last Edited by Chrit on 10/05/2015 03:43 AM

western intelligence said russia would collapse soon after the germans attacked the writing was almost on the wall germany should have won in 1941

dont understand how they lost

Bullshit. Russia lost WW1 to Germany.

Hitler saw Stalin beginning to build up the Soviet military. Hitler also saw that the Soviets has trouble fighting the Finns in 1939.

These two factors contributed to Hitler's decision to break the Molotov-Von Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Pact and attack the USSR in 1941.

Both sides knew the confrontation was only a matter of time. Hitler believed that he needed to attack when he did, before Stalin's massive industrialization could fully translate into an unstoppable military juggernaut.

Hitler's decision was not a bad one, in my opinion. There was simply too much power allied against Germany.

Last Edited by Mark Spitz, Phelps Swallows on 10/05/2015 03:50 AM

The British had the home ground advantage during the Battle of Britan,the weather was shit on the way to Russia,two fronts didn't help and supply lines were stretched too far in Afrika.Also being an evil bastard doesn't help you win friends.

First, you're not in Germany. Second, no they didn't. Instead, the Russian Revolution was occurring internally, which caused Russia to drop out of WWI. Germany did not defeat Russia in WWI. You sound like a product of the fine American public education system.

Last Edited by Mark Spitz, Phelps Swallows on 10/05/2015 03:51 AM

Basically he fucked up his war by micromanaging the operation and not having a clear focus on what fronts to concentrate. His generals adviced total focus on Moscow, because it was the nerve center of all Russian operations. Hitler overruled them and put considerable emphasis on the oil fields in the Caucasus. When the generals protested, he simply said that they don't understand the political aspects of warfare.

If he had opted for the original plan with a huge pincer attack on Moscow by two major Army Groups, the Moscow would have fallen.

But no. First he had to save Mussolini's ass in Greece (moving troops south) and then establised a third Army Group in the south for operations in the Caucasus. All that cost him time and caught Wehrmacht in a winter war they were never prepared for. It also reduced the weight of the assault towards Moscow. As a result, the offensive bogged down and was eventually repelled by the huge Russian reserves that arrived just in time.

The second major blunder was that he didn't insist that the Japanese attack Russia in the east. When Japan got into war with USA, they no longer had the means of creating a Russian front. Why was this important? The troops that saved Moscow were Siberian troops that could be transfered to Europe, because there was no longer a threat of a Japanese invasion in the east.

Hitler lost WW2 because of Canada.

Sure I am in Germany. And I am not wasting the night typing nonsene in America, are you jobles you loser?

How was WW1 a defeat against Russia?

It wasn't. You are a liar.

They lost cause your so called western intel is bullshit.

Many of the Ukrainians joined the Wermacht as the latter marched through the plains of Ukraine on their way east. The Ukrainians remembered Stalin's Holodomor from the 1930s all too well.

Last Edited by Mark Spitz, Phelps Swallows on 10/05/2015 03:54 AM

Hitler could have destroyed britian via egypt defeat them there and destroy the oil supply

some of his decisions were whack

I agree. They were so close on all three major fronts.

he did not lose idiots -

it was just another illuminati game for the masses

Montgomery outsmarted Rommel,the Aussies took one for the team to concentrate the Germans so the other Allies could surround them.

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He never quite understood intercontinental strategies. He never grasped the opportunity that presented itself in Egypt. By pushing hard, Afrika Korps could have pushed through Egypt and Sinai and linked up with the Army Group South in the Caucasus. It would have been a decisive victory, stripped Russia of most of her oil and given Germany immense resources to clean the table in Europe, occupy UK and drive remaining Russians behind the Urals.

I believe he was a plant

Hitler was trying to do what the Illuminati via the vehicle that is the U.S. is doing now. Hitler jumped the gun and was not "of the bloodline". So he was dealt with.

Unfortunately, but understandably, the victors write the history. But the truth can't be hidden so easily by curtailing freedom of speech, and introducing a barrage of propaganda to the masses. The truth refuses to die. It's like a shipwreck victim with a life preserver, floating in the deep, dark ocean, waiting, waiting, knowing it will be found and rescued. Just a matter of time.

by december 1941 he should have known it be a stalemate at best and seek some kind of peace by 1942

I find the "alternative history" books about different outcomes of WWII to be fascinating. So many possibilities as to what could have been.

It was not possible for Barbarossa to succeed in 1941--for many reasons. Forget about Hollywood history. If you really want to get a clear picture, pick up at least a dozen books--at least some of them written by the participants-from both sides.

The critical problems were as follows;
1. Faulty intelligence. The Germans had planned on destroying about 170 Russian divisions within 10 to 12 weeks. They actually accomplished that goal. However, instead of the Red Army being gone, there were around 160 additional Russian divisions identified.

2. Equipment. The USSR was the number one arms producer on the planet for many years prior to the war. In 1941, much of it was out of date..but not all. The Soviet tanks were actually far superior to the German models--and remained so until mid 1943. So, the Germans were fighting outnumbered (strategically) and with important quality disadvantages. It was only through skill in maneuver and rapid planning that enabled the advance. (Red Army fought hard from the beginning).

3. Infrastructure. The infrastructure of the USSR was bad--very bad. The soldiers from the western nations had no idea the place would be so backward. The Iron Curtain did actually exist--no one knew what to expect. In the first five months, operations had to halt 3 times--up and down the front, to allow time for a total re-organization of the supply situation.

Although there were a few operational errors, the first five months of Barbarossa was amazingly successful--never done before and unlikely to ever be accomplished again.

Ukrainians were more than ready to assist Germany-and in fact did--by the millions. Had Hitler offered them more--like a nation, they would have been even more useful, I'm sure. However, that would have done nothing to change the outcome in 1941. You can't just hand out guns to a million guy's and point to an objective--it's a bit more complicated than that.

German victory might have been possible in 1942-had no mistakes had been made. Although they made few mistakes, they had much less room for error.

One of the most rational lines I have ever read about Germany in WW2 was by a German industrialist. He said Germany lost the war by September 1, 1939. Those that differ with that need to look at the available industrial powers of the world. For one little item, fuel, the Allies produced more in a few hours than the Axis did in a month. Axis victory would have required assistance from God.

Everything happens for a reason. It was not just one crazy guy screwing everything up. There were sound reasons that all decisions were made. Information was faulty at times, but that's what happens in war. Hitlers actions/orders in his last last 18 months or so of life were a bit tainted..he fell victim to drug use and was turned into an irrational nut job. That reality is far removed from the Hitler prior to late 1942.

Barbarossa is a fascinating subject. Beware of simplified PC histories. That certainly includes the "history channel".

Most of those who joined were from Western Ukraine/Galicia areas which were under Polish control after the civil war and were never under Stalin's control or authority so how could they remember "Stalin's" Holodomor except as part of a wider famine and the worldwide depression?


The Poles remember the Volyn massacres, the Jews remember the Warsaw Ghetto "anti-terorist operation", and the Eastern Ukraine remembers the atrocities and barbarism of the Galician and Baltic SS troops.

A history of Nazism is nothing to boast about.

The Illuminati, who turned their switch on, decided to turn it off.

all or nothing, heads or tails.