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2015 Economic Freedom Report: The freedom of all the world's countries, ranked!! (Hint: America's not #1)

 
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2015 Economic Freedom Report: The freedom of all the world's countries, ranked!! (Hint: America's not #1)
"Individuals have economic freedom when property they acquire without the use of force, fraud, or theft is protected from physical invasions by others and they are free to use, exchange, or give their property as long as their actions do not violate the identical rights of others. An index of economic freedom should measure the extent to which rightly acquired property is protected and individuals are engaged in voluntary transactions."

[link to www.freetheworld.com]

This is the most extensive study of freedom worldwide, conducted every year. We can all have sentimental beliefs about what country is free, but here's the numbers.

[link to www.freetheworld.com]

Here's the top-10 most economically free countries on Earth (2013 - most recent year numbers are available for):

1. Hong Kong
2. Singapore
3. New Zealand
4. Switzerland
5. UAE
6. Mauritius
7. Jordan
8. Ireland
9. Canada
10. UK

I'm sure you're surprised not to see the US there. I'm sure you're surprised to see Canada and Britain ahead of America! America is at 16. You might resist that, but (a) the numbers speak for themselves - you can all read the data they use - and (b) economists have known America isn't the most economically free country for years. In fact, America has been slipping in the rankings for years.

Now, attentive readers might wonder "What was the ranking under Bush?" The 2009 report gives the numbers for 2007. America was ranked 6th globally in economic freedom.

[link to www.freetheworld.com]

So, in short, under Obama America has fallen from the 6th most free country on Earth to the 16th as of 2013. Given the trend since 2007, we can expect that the report next year and the year after will show America slipping even farther.

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Incidentally, for those trying to argue that Russia is more free than America, Russia is at 99. It was at 83 in 2007.
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Thanks for the pin! cheers
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ftw what does "economically free" means?

If you work 8 hours a day from 7AM till 3PM , and you have rest of the day for family and other activites
where you dont care if your salary is $500 if you can live happy with no worries

There is no way to calculate happiness and that is the first thing that matters together with freedom in a sense that you dont feel your life is threatened economically or physically

this report is BS
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ftw what does "economically free" means?

If you work 8 hours a day from 7AM till 3PM , and you have rest of the day for family and other activites
where you dont care if your salary is $500 if you can live happy with no worries

There is no way to calculate happiness and that is the first thing that matters together with freedom in a sense that you dont feel your life is threatened economically or physically

this report is BS
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Read the fucking report you retard. It doesn't calculate happiness for fuck sake.
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A Typical American VS a Typical Russian: Where Does the Money Go?
[link to blogs.transparent.com]

I know it someone's apinion but interesting nonetheless.
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A Typical American VS a Typical Russian: Where Does the Money Go?
[link to blogs.transparent.com]

I know it someone's apinion but interesting nonetheless.
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Interesting. Thanks for posting. cheers
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UAE Hows that work out for the womenz?
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ftw what does "economically free" means?

If you work 8 hours a day from 7AM till 3PM , and you have rest of the day for family and other activites
where you dont care if your salary is $500 if you can live happy with no worries

There is no way to calculate happiness and that is the first thing that matters together with freedom in a sense that you dont feel your life is threatened economically or physically

this report is BS
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Read the fucking report you retard. It doesn't calculate happiness for fuck sake.
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But...but....the US is the greatest country in the world! ohyeah
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Ireland's best in the EU.

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Ireland's best in the EU.

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I never would have thought that!!!
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Canada is best of all in the Americas

But liberals here think we're the most oppressed
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Great thread, +5
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Ireland's best in the EU.

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ohyeah
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I think this report is B.S.


Democracy in Hong Kong??? HAHA

Canadians don't even own their own land. The crown has the rights to it.

The report is really who has the best illusion of of economic freedom
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Singapore might have a lot of economic freedom since it is a trading capital in Southeast Asia, but make no mistake, it does not respect individual liberties and should not really be considered free. That is a very restrictive and bigoted society. Nice place to visit, do business, but not that great to live in.
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Singapore might have a lot of economic freedom since it is a trading capital in Southeast Asia, but make no mistake, it does not respect individual liberties and should not really be considered free. That is a very restrictive and bigoted society. Nice place to visit, do business, but not that great to live in.
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Do you think its a good time to buy real estate in singapore and malaysia now? Dollar has been very strong so we are getting almost 40% discount in currency rate but they have so many unsold condos that its rediculous now. I've been eyeing it for awhile.
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I would rather the report break it down economically for capitalists and Workers.

Or Total Freedom Report

Ireland is hardly a utopia for workers as is Hong Kong.

The Communist Government in China stole millions of Chinese plots of lands and forced them to move to places like Hong Kong to build widgets for us.

There are no worker rights in China
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Economically FREE MUST INCLUDE the absence of the PERSONAL INCOME TAX as personal property which includes ONE's LABOR may not be morally taxed.. ever. You may have to rewrite that list... in your first post.

TAXATION must only come from sales taxes and from income from corporations which are NOT people.. despite the efforts to the contrary. Business income may be taxed.. but this does not include the independent sole proprietor as long as he takes all profits as personal income...
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I think this report is B.S.


Democracy in Hong Kong??? HAHA

Canadians don't even own their own land. The crown has the rights to it.

The report is really who has the best illusion of of economic freedom
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Siiiiiiigh. Read the data that supports the report.
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Economically FREE MUST INCLUDE the absence of the PERSONAL INCOME TAX as personal property which includes ONE's LABOR may not be morally taxed.. ever. You may have to rewrite that list... in your first post.

TAXATION must only come from sales taxes and from income from corporations which are NOT people.. despite the efforts to the contrary. Business income may be taxed.. but this does not include the independent sole proprietor as long as he takes all profits as personal income...
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Read the report.
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I would rather the report break it down economically for capitalists and Workers.

Or Total Freedom Report

Ireland is hardly a utopia for workers as is Hong Kong.

The Communist Government in China stole millions of Chinese plots of lands and forced them to move to places like Hong Kong to build widgets for us.

There are no worker rights in China
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Why on Earth would the report use a Marxist methodology like that?
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Singapore might have a lot of economic freedom since it is a trading capital in Southeast Asia, but make no mistake, it does not respect individual liberties and should not really be considered free. That is a very restrictive and bigoted society. Nice place to visit, do business, but not that great to live in.
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2015 Economic Freedom Report.
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1. Hong Kong
2. Singapore
3. New Zealand
4. Switzerland
5. UAE
6. Mauritius
7. Jordan
8. Ireland
9. Canada
10. UK


 Quoting: The_Original_Mind



A couple of these countries have one thing in common.
They employ slave labor, disregard human rights and environmental concerns.

Hong Kong needs no explanation
The Middle East countries like Jordan, UAE and Mauritius import cheap slaves to their countries to do the dirty work they do not want to do.

I do not believe in corporate fascism
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Canada is best of all in the Americas

But liberals here think we're the most oppressed
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That's their schtick everywhere.

Except where they are in charge, like North Korea, then they lie about how they've got it the best of everyone, usually announced over a mass grave of famine victims or dissidents.
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UAE Hows that work out for the womenz?
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Migrants building UAE cultural hub 'working in prison conditions'

[link to www.theguardian.com]

Call for UN to investigate plight of migrant workers in the UAE
Work conditions in the UAE and throughout the area described as 'international scandal'

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Human rights organizations have complained about violations of human rights in Dubai.[2] Most notably, some of the 250,000 foreign laborers in the city have been alleged to live in conditions described by Human Rights Watch as being "less than humane."[3][4][5][6] The mistreatment of foreign workers was a subject of the disputed 2009 documentary, Slaves of Dubai.[7]
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Complete economic freedom would entail being able to kill the workers, grind their body done to oil and sell the oil to other workers to cook with.
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Complete economic freedom would entail being able to kill the workers, grind their body done to oil and sell the oil to other workers to cook with.
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Wow, that's some impressive propaganda you've been fed. Complete economic freedom rests on the recognition of property rights. Property rights rest on the recognition of the right to life. The right to life precludes what you just said.
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I would rather the report break it down economically for capitalists and Workers.

Or Total Freedom Report

Ireland is hardly a utopia for workers as is Hong Kong.

The Communist Government in China stole millions of Chinese plots of lands and forced them to move to places like Hong Kong to build widgets for us.

There are no worker rights in China
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Why on Earth would the report use a Marxist methodology like that?
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


So taking into consideration anyone else other than corporate fascists is marxist?

Got it.

I suppose you support the Fascist TPP as well





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