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Anti-gun activists are outraged and in disbelief at the comments by Dr. Ben Carson regarding the Oregon shooting.

 
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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I really respect the fact that Dr. Ben Carson does not worry about how he will sound to others. He says what he thinks without any apologies.

One of the many comments he made about the Oregon shooting was he thought every teacher should be armed. He said that every bullet he had taken from a patient was a tragedy but not like the tragedy of gun confiscation.

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Carson also told USA Today kindergarten instructors should have weapons training. “If the teacher was trained in the use of that weapon and had access to it, I would be much more comfortable if they had one than if they didn’t,” he said of guns

And he told a Facebook Q&A on Monday that although he had removed many bullets from bodies as a doctor, the right to bear arms took precedence over potential danger. “I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away,” he said.
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Hi Mountain Woman!

Anti Gun activists are always getting offended and outraged and so on.

Illogically, they think if all guns are banned, this shooter would never have pulled this stunt.

Actually, if all guns are banned, MORE shooters will be able to do this stunt, a thousand times over because they know the 'law abiding citizens' are totally unarmed and can not retaliate.

I thought Ben Carson made a lot of sense; the accepted scenario doesn't. It makes everyone seem like robots. Ben is poking a doubt into this situation, I think it is healthy and lets see proof. We saw tons of proof in Columbine, after that very little.

As shootings INCREASE, so should citizens concealed carry weapons to protect themselves and others. It is only logical.

The only time one should ever consider disarming is when shootings STOP and crime is null and void.

Does the govt want us to be sitting ducks?


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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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He'd get my vote.
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This is another example why Carson won’t have much of a chance to get elected. He’s too honest and speaks the truth. There is no political future for someone like that.
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He's not there to be elected. He's there to sap votes from Trump. Same with Fiorina.

Then, they both drop out. Will leave just Trump and Jeb.

Can't you guys see the chess game being played here?
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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Good luck with those refugihadists.
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Whatever, I'm sick of hearing about your shootings America.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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The knife is the preferred weapon of murder in England
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That's utter crap. Do some research. If it were true (it's not) what are the chances that someone armed with a knife would kill 10 or 12 or 20 people in one attack.

People who are dedicated to educating children now need firearms to protect their students....Maybe you think that's something to be proud of. I think it's tragic. Arming educators may well be necessary but how the hell did we arrive at such an appalling situation?
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How? Social engineering in the media and educational system, uncontrolled immigration, etc... it has all been planned to be exactly like this you fucktard.

Also, engineered shootings are real. It's not that hard to target someone and push them over the edge using a wide variety of techniques.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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I've not been to UK in maybe 5 years, but I do recall that London cops carried pistols, appeared to be either Glocks or H&K. Hell, even the petite women cops had a pistol on their hip. Saw plenty carrying tac rifles with optics too, looked like MP5s.

Are the regular UK police pussyfied and only the City police are trusted to carry the right tools for their job?
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That would be at Heathrow Airport. Regular police don't carry.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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That is why You are Subjects and We are Citizens.
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That's incorrect. Read a fucking book.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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And your gun violence rates had gone UP since you banned handguns.
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Lol at the lies. Link or stink.
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Ben Carson said about the Michael Brown shooting that he would not have shot Brown if he had been the officer.


I do NOT trust him at all...I believe he spoke honestly then...and now he is just saying what he thinks will get him elected.
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This is another example why Carson won’t have much of a chance to get elected. He’s too honest and speaks the truth. There is no political future for someone like that.
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He's not there to be elected. He's there to sap votes from Trump. Same with Fiorina.

Then, they both drop out. Will leave just Trump and Jeb.

Can't you guys see the chess game being played here?
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With Trump's recent comments regarding Middle Eastern policies I believe that the Neocons will make sure that Trump is never elected...he is just too reasonable. At this point he is the only one that I would even consider voting for.

Ben Carson is a fine dr. but that's all he really is...now the Neocons first choice I do believe is Jeb Bush...they may find a way to boost him in the polls, but they also like Rubio...a man that I would never vote for...he is a very dangerous snake in the grass

It is going to get interesting...
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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Yes you guys don't have guns anymore and you also have 5 times the violent crime rate with only a third of the population of the US, this all came about after you guys banned guns while our crime rate is actually on a decline as more ad more peope have gotten weapons.

It's not the guns it's the defunding of psychiatric care and the change of the laws on how people who are potentially dangerous mentally and committing them to an institutions that were changed in the 90's and since that has fucked us beyond belief.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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The knife is the preferred weapon of murder in England
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That's utter crap. Do some research. If it were true (it's not) what are the chances that someone armed with a knife would kill 10 or 12 or 20 people in one attack.

People who are dedicated to educating children now need firearms to protect their students....Maybe you think that's something to be proud of. I think it's tragic. Arming educators may well be necessary but how the hell did we arrive at such an appalling situation?
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Gun-Free zones.
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In Norway, you need a license to purchase a gun and a license to purchase ammo.


Didn't stop Anders Behring Breivik.


More laws aren't going to stop it. Its just a way for politicians to control the citizens.
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so when are we going to see the first "teacher authorized to have gun shoots classroom of kids"? lmao
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If it dont happen fast enuff....they will hoax one.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24239850


The knife is the preferred weapon of murder in England
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68153486


That's utter crap. Do some research. If it were true (it's not) what are the chances that someone armed with a knife would kill 10 or 12 or 20 people in one attack.

People who are dedicated to educating children now need firearms to protect their students....Maybe you think that's something to be proud of. I think it's tragic. Arming educators may well be necessary but how the hell did we arrive at such an appalling situation?
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looks like you're pretty much standing alone on your opinion. You're right it is appalling. For an outsider I had trouble wrapping my head around the mentality of Americans. I'm not against hunting rifles but to have hand guns and automatic weapons is ridiculous. With all the pharma supplied nut cases that are doing most of the killing, one has to wonder why the government hasn't started with that. If I was to go to the doctor with a medical condition that could or does effect my ability to drive a car, the doctor has the power to take my license away. It should be the same for those people that have been prescribed a psychotic drug.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24239850


The knife is the preferred weapon of murder in England
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68153486


That's utter crap. Do some research. If it were true (it's not) what are the chances that someone armed with a knife would kill 10 or 12 or 20 people in one attack.

People who are dedicated to educating children now need firearms to protect their students....Maybe you think that's something to be proud of. I think it's tragic. Arming educators may well be necessary but how the hell did we arrive at such an appalling situation?
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No one pays attention to mass stabbings.

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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
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I spent a little over a month living in the UK.

The apartment I was living in fell victim to a gang related drive by shooting while I was there.

Meanwhile, my entire 28 years in the US, I have yet to witness any gun crime what so ever, and I have been coast to coast and spent at least 2 weeks in about every single state.

Crime is crime. Get some training, get your license, and carry every day. You are responsible for your own safety, stop pretending you aren't and that you shouldn't have to be.

Life isn't a video game. Bad things happen. Be ready for it and those bad things might make for a bad day instead of the end of your life.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24239850


The knife is the preferred weapon of murder in England
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68153486


That's utter crap. Do some research. If it were true (it's not) what are the chances that someone armed with a knife would kill 10 or 12 or 20 people in one attack.

People who are dedicated to educating children now need firearms to protect their students....Maybe you think that's something to be proud of. I think it's tragic. Arming educators may well be necessary but how the hell did we arrive at such an appalling situation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24239850


looks like you're pretty much standing alone on your opinion. You're right it is appalling. For an outsider I had trouble wrapping my head around the mentality of Americans. I'm not against hunting rifles but to have hand guns and automatic weapons is ridiculous. With all the pharma supplied nut cases that are doing most of the killing, one has to wonder why the government hasn't started with that. If I was to go to the doctor with a medical condition that could or does effect my ability to drive a car, the doctor has the power to take my license away. It should be the same for those people that have been prescribed a psychotic drug.
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Please Please.....I beg you, give me one example of a murder committed in the USA with an "AUTOMATIC WEAPON"!

Your ignorance and willingness to pass around false facts automatically disqualifies your overall opinion on the subject. It's impossible to take someone serious, who is so grotesquely uninformed.
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How can one of the most advanced nations on Earth have arrived at a place where teachers need to carry guns?
That's one of the saddest things I ever heard.

Here in England, the police don't carry firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24239850


The knife is the preferred weapon of murder in England
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68153486


That's utter crap. Do some research. If it were true (it's not) what are the chances that someone armed with a knife would kill 10 or 12 or 20 people in one attack.

People who are dedicated to educating children now need firearms to protect their students....Maybe you think that's something to be proud of. I think it's tragic. Arming educators may well be necessary but how the hell did we arrive at such an appalling situation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24239850


looks like you're pretty much standing alone on your opinion. You're right it is appalling. For an outsider I had trouble wrapping my head around the mentality of Americans. I'm not against hunting rifles but to have hand guns and automatic weapons is ridiculous. With all the pharma supplied nut cases that are doing most of the killing, one has to wonder why the government hasn't started with that. If I was to go to the doctor with a medical condition that could or does effect my ability to drive a car, the doctor has the power to take my license away. It should be the same for those people that have been prescribed a psychotic drug.
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Further, I would be embarrassed and angry that I was misled from the TEENAGERS at MSNBC. Taking news from kids aint cool, especially when they know it's false. I feel bad for you....sort of.





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